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Barack Obama is officially one of the most consequential presidents in American history

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http://www.vox.com/2015/6/26/8849925/obama-obamacare-history-presidents

gatorfan



Well if old Dylan said it - it must be true right? ROFLMAO

Barack Obama is officially one of the most consequential presidents in American history Profileshot2

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

Yes he presided over our decline from a constitutional republic to an authoritarian dictatorship and the loss of sovereignty and our absorption into the NWO. While he was golfing.

boards of FL

boards of FL

Obama is already ranked fairly high in historical presidential rankings, currently sitting in the range of 16th to 18th.  That will only improve as time moves on.

The ACA, normalizing relations with Cuba, immigration policy, winding down the Bush wars, rapid deficit reduction, longest stretch of job growth on record, inheriting the worst situation imaginable and turning it around, green energy investments, highlighting the importance of climate change, etc., etc..



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TEOTWAWKI wrote:Yes he presided over our decline from a constitutional republic to an authoritarian dictatorship and the loss of sovereignty and our absorption into the NWO. While he was golfing.

Can you imagine how much worse it would be if he actually worked????

He had a lot of potential when he started but has been a major disappointment overall.

boards of FL

boards of FL

gatorfan wrote:
TEOTWAWKI wrote:Yes he presided over our decline from a constitutional republic to an authoritarian dictatorship and the loss of sovereignty and our absorption into the NWO. While he was golfing.

Can you imagine how much worse it would be if he actually worked????


Can you imagine how much better off American's would be if half the population were actually informed?

Wow! Look at all those vacation days!


https://pensacoladiscussion.forumotion.com/t15676-after-seeing-markle-s-repeated-references-to-obama-s-vacation-i-thought-it-would-be-a-good-time-to-have-a-look-at-the-vacation-day-scoreboard-over-the-last-several-decades


boards of FL wrote:Vacation days used by each president

Jimmy Carter: 79

Ronald Reagan: 484

George H.W. Bush: 543

Bill Clinton: 152

George W. Bush: 1,020

Barack Obama (to date): 122


Republican presidents total: 2,047

Democratic presidents total: 353


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boards of FL wrote:
gatorfan wrote:
TEOTWAWKI wrote:Yes he presided over our decline from a constitutional republic to an authoritarian dictatorship and the loss of sovereignty and our absorption into the NWO. While he was golfing.

Can you imagine how much worse it would be if he actually worked????


Can you imagine how much better off American's would be if half the population were actually informed?

Wow!  Look at all those vacation days!


https://pensacoladiscussion.forumotion.com/t15676-after-seeing-markle-s-repeated-references-to-obama-s-vacation-i-thought-it-would-be-a-good-time-to-have-a-look-at-the-vacation-day-scoreboard-over-the-last-several-decades


boards of FL wrote:Vacation days used by each president

Jimmy Carter: 79

Ronald Reagan: 484

George H.W. Bush: 543

Bill Clinton: 152

George W. Bush: 1,020

Barack Obama (to date): 122


Republican presidents total: 2,047

Democratic presidents total: 353

"Vacation day" counts are meaningless - it's what they do at work that matters. A President is never really on vacation given their electronic leashes but go ahead and try to convince yourself.

"The 10 Obama Policies and Failures That Make Us Angriest"

http://www.alternet.org/visions/10-obama-policies-and-failures-make-us-angriest

boards of FL

boards of FL

gatorfan wrote:
boards of FL wrote:
gatorfan wrote:
TEOTWAWKI wrote:Yes he presided over our decline from a constitutional republic to an authoritarian dictatorship and the loss of sovereignty and our absorption into the NWO. While he was golfing.

Can you imagine how much worse it would be if he actually worked????


Can you imagine how much better off American's would be if half the population were actually informed?

Wow!  Look at all those vacation days!


https://pensacoladiscussion.forumotion.com/t15676-after-seeing-markle-s-repeated-references-to-obama-s-vacation-i-thought-it-would-be-a-good-time-to-have-a-look-at-the-vacation-day-scoreboard-over-the-last-several-decades


boards of FL wrote:Vacation days used by each president

Jimmy Carter: 79

Ronald Reagan: 484

George H.W. Bush: 543

Bill Clinton: 152

George W. Bush: 1,020

Barack Obama (to date): 122


Republican presidents total: 2,047

Democratic presidents total: 353

"Vacation day" counts are meaningless - it's what they do at work that matters. A President is never really on vacation given their electronic leashes but go ahead and try to convince yourself.

"The 10 Obama Policies and Failures That Make Us Angriest"

http://www.alternet.org/visions/10-obama-policies-and-failures-make-us-angriest



Well, you just said this:


gatorfan wrote:
TEOTWAWKI wrote:Yes he presided over our decline from a constitutional republic to an authoritarian dictatorship and the loss of sovereignty and our absorption into the NWO. While he was golfing.

Can you imagine how much worse it would be if he actually worked????


I just gave you vacation-day data for the last several decades. Can you clarify what it is that you meant when you said "Can you imagine how much worse it would be if he actually worked????" Obama clearly isn't taking nearly as many vacation days as the presidents that you vote for. So what did you mean there? Are you implying that Obama goes to work every day and just twiddles his thumbs?

See if you can muster the brainpower to string a few words together and properly explain what it is that you're trying to say.


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boards of FL wrote:
gatorfan wrote:
boards of FL wrote:
gatorfan wrote:
TEOTWAWKI wrote:

Can you imagine how much worse it would be if he actually worked????




boards of FL wrote:Vacation days used by each president

Jimmy Carter: 79

Ronald Reagan: 484

George H.W. Bush: 543

Bill Clinton: 152

George W. Bush: 1,020

Barack Obama (to date): 122


Republican presidents total: 2,047

Democratic presidents total: 353

"Vacation day" counts are meaningless - it's what they do at work that matters. A President is never really on vacation given their electronic leashes but go ahead and try to convince yourself.

"The 10 Obama Policies and Failures That Make Us Angriest"

http://www.alternet.org/visions/10-obama-policies-and-failures-make-us-angriest



Well, you just said this:


gatorfan wrote:
TEOTWAWKI wrote:Yes he presided over our decline from a constitutional republic to an authoritarian dictatorship and the loss of sovereignty and our absorption into the NWO. While he was golfing.

Can you imagine how much worse it would be if he actually worked????


I just gave you vacation-day data for the last several decades.  Can you clarify what it is that you meant when you said "Can you imagine how much worse it would be if he actually worked????"   Obama clearly isn't taking nearly as many vacation days as the presidents that you vote for.  So what did you mean there?  Are you implying that Obama goes to work every day and just twiddles his thumbs?  

See if you can muster the brainpower to string a few words together and properly explain what it is that you're trying to say.


He is lazy. Is that simple enough so even YOU can understand?

I'll repeat this - see if you can muster the brain power to comprehend it this time then have someone show you how to open the link and read it, or don't since I really could care less about your simpering little comments.

A President is never really on vacation given their electronic leashes but go ahead and try to convince yourself.

"The 10 Obama Policies and Failures That Make Us Angriest"

http://www.alternet.org/visions/10-obama-policies-and-failures-make-us-angriest

boards of FL

boards of FL

gatorfan wrote:
boards of FL wrote:
gatorfan wrote:
boards of FL wrote:
gatorfan wrote:
TEOTWAWKI wrote:

Can you imagine how much worse it would be if he actually worked????




boards of FL wrote:Vacation days used by each president

Jimmy Carter: 79

Ronald Reagan: 484

George H.W. Bush: 543

Bill Clinton: 152

George W. Bush: 1,020

Barack Obama (to date): 122


Republican presidents total: 2,047

Democratic presidents total: 353

"Vacation day" counts are meaningless - it's what they do at work that matters. A President is never really on vacation given their electronic leashes but go ahead and try to convince yourself.

"The 10 Obama Policies and Failures That Make Us Angriest"

http://www.alternet.org/visions/10-obama-policies-and-failures-make-us-angriest



Well, you just said this:


gatorfan wrote:
TEOTWAWKI wrote:Yes he presided over our decline from a constitutional republic to an authoritarian dictatorship and the loss of sovereignty and our absorption into the NWO. While he was golfing.

Can you imagine how much worse it would be if he actually worked????


I just gave you vacation-day data for the last several decades.  Can you clarify what it is that you meant when you said "Can you imagine how much worse it would be if he actually worked????"   Obama clearly isn't taking nearly as many vacation days as the presidents that you vote for.  So what did you mean there?  Are you implying that Obama goes to work every day and just twiddles his thumbs?  

See if you can muster the brainpower to string a few words together and properly explain what it is that you're trying to say.


He is lazy. Is that simple enough so even YOU can understand?


How are you arriving at the conclusion that Obama is lazy? It certainly isn't from his vacation days, so can you elaborate on that? Can you provide whatever it is that you're seeing or reading that leads you to the belief that Obama is lazy?


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Either Obama saved the world. Or Obama ruined the world.

He can't run for president again, but boy does Obama have a second career in the pro wrastlin business because ya'll would be the perfect wrastlin audience. lol

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

No one was lazier as a president than George W. Bush. He gave most of his power to Dick Cheney, who called many of the shots during the last administration.

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gatorfan



boards of FL wrote:
gatorfan wrote:
boards of FL wrote:
gatorfan wrote:
boards of FL wrote:
gatorfan wrote:
TEOTWAWKI wrote:

Can you imagine how much worse it would be if he actually worked????




boards of FL wrote:Vacation days used by each president

Jimmy Carter: 79

Ronald Reagan: 484

George H.W. Bush: 543

Bill Clinton: 152

George W. Bush: 1,020

Barack Obama (to date): 122


Republican presidents total: 2,047

Democratic presidents total: 353

"Vacation day" counts are meaningless - it's what they do at work that matters. A President is never really on vacation given their electronic leashes but go ahead and try to convince yourself.

"The 10 Obama Policies and Failures That Make Us Angriest"

http://www.alternet.org/visions/10-obama-policies-and-failures-make-us-angriest



Well, you just said this:


gatorfan wrote:
TEOTWAWKI wrote:Yes he presided over our decline from a constitutional republic to an authoritarian dictatorship and the loss of sovereignty and our absorption into the NWO. While he was golfing.

Can you imagine how much worse it would be if he actually worked????


I just gave you vacation-day data for the last several decades.  Can you clarify what it is that you meant when you said "Can you imagine how much worse it would be if he actually worked????"   Obama clearly isn't taking nearly as many vacation days as the presidents that you vote for.  So what did you mean there?  Are you implying that Obama goes to work every day and just twiddles his thumbs?  

See if you can muster the brainpower to string a few words together and properly explain what it is that you're trying to say.


He is lazy. Is that simple enough so even YOU can understand?


How are you arriving at the conclusion that Obama is lazy?  It certainly isn't from his vacation days, so can you elaborate on that?  Can you provide whatever it is that you're seeing or reading that leads you to the belief that Obama is lazy?

Why bother? You will just ignore the salient points as usual since you don't agree or more likely understand. Couldn't find someone to open this link and read it to you ever so slowly? It explains a lot. You really are that pitiful!

http://www.alternet.org/visions/10-obama-policies-and-failures-make-us-angriest

gatorfan



ZVUGKTUBM wrote:No one was lazier as a president than George W. Bush. He gave most of his power to Dick Cheney, who called many of the shots during the last administration.

You could very well be correct but this thread is about Obama, like BoF you always attempt to change the subject. Bush is long gone, remember? And good riddance.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

There's no doubt about it, Obama and Bush are the most significant individuals in all of human history.
A million years from now, the names Obama and Bush will be all people talk about.

boards of FL

boards of FL

gatorfan wrote:
boards of FL wrote:
gatorfan wrote:
boards of FL wrote:
gatorfan wrote:
boards of FL wrote:
gatorfan wrote:
TEOTWAWKI wrote:

Can you imagine how much worse it would be if he actually worked????




boards of FL wrote:Vacation days used by each president

Jimmy Carter: 79

Ronald Reagan: 484

George H.W. Bush: 543

Bill Clinton: 152

George W. Bush: 1,020

Barack Obama (to date): 122


Republican presidents total: 2,047

Democratic presidents total: 353

"Vacation day" counts are meaningless - it's what they do at work that matters. A President is never really on vacation given their electronic leashes but go ahead and try to convince yourself.

"The 10 Obama Policies and Failures That Make Us Angriest"

http://www.alternet.org/visions/10-obama-policies-and-failures-make-us-angriest



Well, you just said this:


gatorfan wrote:
TEOTWAWKI wrote:Yes he presided over our decline from a constitutional republic to an authoritarian dictatorship and the loss of sovereignty and our absorption into the NWO. While he was golfing.

Can you imagine how much worse it would be if he actually worked????


I just gave you vacation-day data for the last several decades.  Can you clarify what it is that you meant when you said "Can you imagine how much worse it would be if he actually worked????"   Obama clearly isn't taking nearly as many vacation days as the presidents that you vote for.  So what did you mean there?  Are you implying that Obama goes to work every day and just twiddles his thumbs?  

See if you can muster the brainpower to string a few words together and properly explain what it is that you're trying to say.


He is lazy. Is that simple enough so even YOU can understand?


How are you arriving at the conclusion that Obama is lazy?  It certainly isn't from his vacation days, so can you elaborate on that?  Can you provide whatever it is that you're seeing or reading that leads you to the belief that Obama is lazy?

Why bother? You will just ignore the salient points as usual since you don't agree or more likely understand. Couldn't find someone to open this link and read it to you ever so slowly? It explains a lot. You really are that pitiful!

http://www.alternet.org/visions/10-obama-policies-and-failures-make-us-angriest


You just bothered to write five sentences in response to my question but you can't be bothered to simply answer the question directly?  

I swear this isn't a trick question, gatorfan.   You said:


gatorfan wrote:Can you imagine how much worse it would be if he actually worked????


When I asked you to clarify what you meant there, you said that Obama is lazy.  OK.  From where are you getting that idea?  Have you read something somewhere that makes that case?  Did you just pull it out of your ass?  This is a fairly straightforward question that I'm asking you here.

I just read your link.  It's riddled with complaints about 1) Obama trying to negotiate with republicans too much, 2) deporting 2 million undocumented immigrants, 3) not being more hardcore in bank regulation, 4) etc, 5), etc.

But there is nothing there about being lazy.  

Can you simply explain your "lazy" comment or will this be another in a long line of situations where gatorfan says something completely off the wall and then runs away when being asked to qualify it?   He simply can't be bothered to qualify his completely made up bullshit!  Right, gatorfan?  Talk about lazy!

Feel free to correct me and make your case, though I suspect we both know that you won't.  Would you instead like to walk back your comment and simply concede that you were talking out of your ass and that you have nothing to back up that claim?

Oh, and this is hilarious:

gatorfan wrote:
ZVUGKTUBM wrote:No one was lazier as a president than George W. Bush. He gave most of his power to Dick Cheney, who called many of the shots during the last administration.

You could very well be correct but this thread is about Obama, like BoF you always attempt to change the subject. Bush is long gone, remember? And good riddance.


You're calling out Z for changing the subject right after you posted an article basically stating that Obama isn't liberal enough in response to being asked to qualify your claim that Obama is lazy.


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boards of FL wrote:
gatorfan wrote:
boards of FL wrote:
gatorfan wrote:
boards of FL wrote:
gatorfan wrote:
boards of FL wrote:
gatorfan wrote:
TEOTWAWKI wrote:

Can you imagine how much worse it would be if he actually worked????




boards of FL wrote:Vacation days used by each president

Jimmy Carter: 79

Ronald Reagan: 484

George H.W. Bush: 543

Bill Clinton: 152

George W. Bush: 1,020

Barack Obama (to date): 122


Republican presidents total: 2,047

Democratic presidents total: 353

"Vacation day" counts are meaningless - it's what they do at work that matters. A President is never really on vacation given their electronic leashes but go ahead and try to convince yourself.

"The 10 Obama Policies and Failures That Make Us Angriest"

http://www.alternet.org/visions/10-obama-policies-and-failures-make-us-angriest



Well, you just said this:


gatorfan wrote:
TEOTWAWKI wrote:Yes he presided over our decline from a constitutional republic to an authoritarian dictatorship and the loss of sovereignty and our absorption into the NWO. While he was golfing.

Can you imagine how much worse it would be if he actually worked????


I just gave you vacation-day data for the last several decades.  Can you clarify what it is that you meant when you said "Can you imagine how much worse it would be if he actually worked????"   Obama clearly isn't taking nearly as many vacation days as the presidents that you vote for.  So what did you mean there?  Are you implying that Obama goes to work every day and just twiddles his thumbs?  

See if you can muster the brainpower to string a few words together and properly explain what it is that you're trying to say.


He is lazy. Is that simple enough so even YOU can understand?


How are you arriving at the conclusion that Obama is lazy?  It certainly isn't from his vacation days, so can you elaborate on that?  Can you provide whatever it is that you're seeing or reading that leads you to the belief that Obama is lazy?

Why bother? You will just ignore the salient points as usual since you don't agree or more likely understand. Couldn't find someone to open this link and read it to you ever so slowly? It explains a lot. You really are that pitiful!

http://www.alternet.org/visions/10-obama-policies-and-failures-make-us-angriest


You just bothered to write five sentences in response to my question but you can't be bothered to simply answer the question directly?  

I swear this isn't a trick question, gatorfan.   You said:


gatorfan wrote:Can you imagine how much worse it would be if he actually worked????


When I asked you to clarify what you meant there, you said that Obama is lazy.  OK.  From where are you getting that idea?  Have you read something somewhere that makes that case?  Did you just pull it out of your ass?  This is a fairly straightforward question that I'm asking you here.

I just read your link.  It's riddled with complaints about 1) Obama trying to negotiate with republicans too much, 2) deporting 2 million undocumented immigrants, 3) not being more hardcore in bank regulation, 4) etc, 5), etc.

But there is nothing there about being lazy.  

Can you simply explain your "lazy" comment or will this be another in a long line of situations where gatorfan says something completely off the wall and then runs away when being asked to qualify it?   He simply can't be bothered to qualify his completely made up bullshit!  Right, gatorfan?  Talk about lazy!

Feel free to correct me and make your case, though I suspect we both know that you won't.  Would you instead like to walk back your comment and simply concede that you were talking out of your ass and that you have nothing to back up that claim?

Oh, and this is hilarious:

gatorfan wrote:
ZVUGKTUBM wrote:No one was lazier as a president than George W. Bush. He gave most of his power to Dick Cheney, who called many of the shots during the last administration.

You could very well be correct but this thread is about Obama, like BoF you always attempt to change the subject. Bush is long gone, remember? And good riddance.


You're calling out Z for changing the subject right after you posted an article basically stating that Obama isn't liberal enough in response to being asked to qualify your claim that Obama is lazy.

Apparently, he's disappointed that President Obama was not progressive enough. Oh yeah, and he's lazy too, whatever the hell that means!

gatorfan



Isn't that cute, BoF has stooped so low as to delete thread responses he doesn't like! Yep, anything goes here!

Hilarious.

boards of FL

boards of FL

gatorfan wrote:Isn't that cute, BoF has stooped so low as to delete thread responses he doesn't like! Yep, anything goes here!

Hilarious.


I haven't deleted anything.  Is this your way of running away?  You're now going to pretend as if you answered my question and then I deleted it?

Rather than continue this charade, wouldn't it simply be easier to just 1) explain why it is that you believe Obama is lazy or 2) walk back that comment and concede that you were simply talking out of your ass?


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boards of FL wrote:
gatorfan wrote:Isn't that cute, BoF has stooped so low as to delete thread responses he doesn't like! Yep, anything goes here!

Hilarious.


I haven't deleted anything.  Is this your way of running away?  You're now going to pretend as if you answered my question and then I deleted it?

Rather than continue this charade, wouldn't it simply be easier to just 1) explain why it is that you believe Obama is lazy or 2) walk back that comment and concede that you were simply talking out of your ass?

Now you have stooped to lying! What a guy!

I've answered your stupid question in several ways but the answers were too complicated for you to understand so you resort to your BoFshit method of continuous questions.

Quite simply Obama rarely engages Congress (he is too lazy to try and shape or motivate that dysfunctional body of idiots), he lies continuously about what he is going to do and fails to follow through (does that link make sense to you now), he prefers to operate in the shadows because he is too lazy to get Congress involved (again I refer you to the link), I could go on but I know you can't comprehend these little facts already.

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

boards of FL wrote:
gatorfan wrote:
TEOTWAWKI wrote:Yes he presided over our decline from a constitutional republic to an authoritarian dictatorship and the loss of sovereignty and our absorption into the NWO. While he was golfing.

Can you imagine how much worse it would be if he actually worked????


Can you imagine how much better off American's would be if half the population were actually informed?

Wow!  Look at all those vacation days!


https://pensacoladiscussion.forumotion.com/t15676-after-seeing-markle-s-repeated-references-to-obama-s-vacation-i-thought-it-would-be-a-good-time-to-have-a-look-at-the-vacation-day-scoreboard-over-the-last-several-decades


boards of FL wrote:Vacation days used by each president

Jimmy Carter: 79

Ronald Reagan: 484

George H.W. Bush: 543

Bill Clinton: 152

George W. Bush: 1,020

Barack Obama (to date): 122


Republican presidents total: 2,047

Democratic presidents total: 353



Are you including days spent at their private homes, homes set up to be the White House? Reagan's home was called the Western White House.

boards of FL

boards of FL

gatorfan wrote:Now you have stooped to lying! What a guy!



One of us is definitely lying here.



gatorfan wrote:I've answered your stupid question in several ways but the answers were too complicated for you to understand so you resort to your BoFshit method of continuous questions.



So you're going to pretend as if the link that you posted is a direct answer to my question?  It isn't.  



gatorfan wrote:Quite simply Obama rarely engages Congress (he is too lazy to try and shape or motivate that dysfunctional body of idiots)



From the first bullet point of your link - which you're now claiming directly answers my question:



When Obama ran for president in 2008, some thought a refreshing aspect of his candidacy was his potential management style. Unlike the Bush administration, which ruled by dictates—like its war of choice in Iraq—Obama was a mediator who would bridge the gap between liberals and conservatives. Obama offered a mediator's promise. It was not, "We won, we rule." Instead it was a pledge to find common ground.

Sadly, this management style has mostly failed in Washington. During Obama's first five years, many of his biggest domestic disappointments have come from negotiating with Republicans and with private interests who never had any intention of compromising or working in good faith. Perhaps the only memorable thing that former Sen. John Edwards said in his 2008 campaign was his critique of Obama’s  style: "You cannot negotiate with political thugs."

But Obama's inclination to try to satisfy all factions has lead to the key disasters of his presidency. The budget battles with the House GOP—and the tactical error he made about GOP thinking—lead to the cruel federal sequester and subsequent government shutdown. His decision not to push for a public option in Obamacare and his failure to insist on cost controls for private health plans are two others. It’s sad that being a reasonable person in today’s Washington often doesn’t work. A less charitable interpretation is that Obama just wimped out. The hard truth is that a president has to be feared and respected by his opponents, not seen as a person who is more willing to compromise than draw lines.



Reading comprehension clearly isn't your strong suit, so trust me when I say that the passage above is complaining about Obama trying to engage congress too much.   It is saying that Obama tries to negotiate in good faith with congressional republicans soo much that it is a fault.  This is the exact opposite of "Obama is lazy".



gatorfan wrote:he lies continuously about what he is going to do and fails to follow through (does that link make sense to you now), he prefers to operate in the shadows because he is too lazy to get Congress involved (again I refer you to the link), I could go on but I know you can't comprehend these little facts already.


Can you be specific here?  First off, this isn't a dictatorship.  Getting legislation passed is a process that involves the house, senate, and executive branch.  Obama can say that he wants a public option and get elected based upon that, but if House republicans don't go for that, it's game over.  The public option wasn't politically viable for that reason, so now we instead have the ACA.  That is an example of a politician 1) telling you want he wants to do, 2) not being able to get that legislation passed due to stonewall opposition, and then 3) coming up with a plan B that is politically viable and then passing that.  That is called being practical.  I have no idea how you arrive at "lazy", and you clearly can't find the words to explain how you arrive at that either - which says quite a bit about your "lazy" opinion to begin with.  

Here is Obama asking members of Congress to join him in an open, publicly televised forum that literally lasted all day.  After you have watched Part 1, Parts 2, 3, and 4 will play automatically.  Get some popcorn ready, gatorfan.  You have 6+ hours of publicly televised ACA discussion between Obama and members of congress:





I'm starting to wonder if you actually understand what the term 'lazy' means.   It appears as if you have reached some internal understanding that you're wrong, but your pride won't let you admit that, so you're instead 1) pretending as if it would be a waste of time to explain yourself (Why bother?!?, 2) pretending as if you did in fact answer me, but then I deleted that response, 3) and now you're pretending as if your link that you posted on page 1 directly explains how Obama is lazy.   It doesn't, but you're pointing to it and saying "Do you see!?!?!  There!  I answered you!"

No, you didn't.


http://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/calling-for-cooperation-obama-engages-in-confrontation/

WASHINGTON (AP) — Amid appeals for bipartisanship, President Barack Obama in just three days has provoked Republicans on issues as disparate as immigration, Wall Street and the Keystone XL pipeline — a combative mix of defense and offense that underscores Washington’s political realignment.

Sensing a Republican retreat, Obama was headlining a Miami town hall on Wednesday, enlisting his Latino base of support to increase pressure on GOP lawmakers who want to tie spending on the Homeland Security Department to repeal of his immigration executive actions.

On Tuesday, he vetoed GOP legislation that would have forced construction of the Keystone XL oil pipeline. And on Monday he proposed tougher rules on financial brokers who help manage retirement accounts, over Wall Street objections.

Three days, three hardball plays.

Such aggressive activism delights his supporters but irritates the Republicans who now control both chambers of Congress.



http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/06/world/middleeast/obama-to-seek-congressional-backing-for-military-campaign-against-isis.html

WASHINGTON — President Obama said on Wednesday that he would seek specific authorization from Congress for the military campaign against the Islamic State, opening the door to a lengthy, potentially contentious debate over the nature and extent of American engagement in Iraq and Syria.

Mr. Obama’s announcement, at his post-election news conference, was not wholly unexpected. But it represented a significant shift from his earlier position that while he would welcome congressional backing, he had legal authority to take military action under existing statutes.

Administration officials said Mr. Obama still believed he had that authority, but with the elections over, he concluded that the time was right to petition Congress for more explicit authority.

“The world needs to know we are united behind this effort and that the men and women of our military deserve our clear and unified support,” Mr. Obama said, adding that he would begin a dialogue with congressional leaders when they come to the White House on Friday.



I could post examples of Obama engaging Congress all day.  I can give you examples of negotiation, playing hardball, hell, here is Obama appearing before Housre republicans and letting them grill him on live television for over an hour.  And he would have stayed longer but republicans realized this wasn't playing well to their narrative.
 




But then again, I don't really need to provide any more of these examples.  The link that you provided - which you feel says that Obama is lazy - does a nice job of that for me  and I already pointed that out above. Your very link says that Obama engages congressional republicans to a fault. To a fault, gatorfan!

Your link doesn't make the case that Obama is lazy.  You haven't made the case that Obama is lazy.  You're leaving forum readers with no choice but to assume that you can't actually qualify that statement with any backing facts or information, or even a theoretical explanation of any sort.

Last chance for gatorfan. Why do you feel Obama is lazy? This is a slow floating softball right over the center of home plate. Two strikes and the bases are loaded. Can you muster the words to simply explain your own opinion that Obama is lazy?


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Joanimaroni wrote:Are you including days spent at their private homes, homes set up to be the White House? Reagan's home was called the Western White House.


You raised that same question in the thread that I linked.  I'll tell you now what I told you then:  I don't have the necessary data to discern between vacation days spent on vacation and vacation days spent at home.  That puts the ball back in your court.  Feel free to make that distinction and see if you can arrive at a point.

Or just leave your contribution as a vague, open ended, rhetorical question with no real answer or point, and merely submitted to provide an excuse to speculate.


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Joanimaroni wrote:Are you including days spent at their private homes, homes set up to be the White House? Reagan's home was called the Western White House.


You raised that same question in the thread that I linked.  I'll tell you now what I told you then:  I don't have the necessary data to discern between vacation days spent on vacation and vacation days spent at home.  That puts the ball back in your court.  Feel free to make that distinction and see if you can arrive at a point.

Or just leave your contribution as a vague, open ended, rhetorical question with no real answer or point, and merely submitted to provide an excuse to speculate.


I'll give you the answer.....anytime Reagan, Bush 1 and 2 spent time at their private residence it was listed as a vacation day. The residences were set up as second White Houses....they conducted official WH business and meetings there and it should not be considered vacation days. But it gives the Dems a warm cuddly feeling to once again chastise the former presidents.

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You got too close to the truth there and they don't like any truths getting in their way.

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