Our greenie friends prefer THIS to a safe Keystone Pipeline: West Virginia train derailment sends oil tanker into river

Our greenie friends prefer THIS to a safe Keystone Pipeline:

West Virginia train derailment sends oil tanker into river

John Raby and Jonathan Mattise, Associated Press

Updated 7:53 pm, Monday, February 16, 2015

David McClung said he felt the heat from one of the explosions at his home about a half mile up the hill.

"It was a little scary. It was like an atomic bomb went off," he said. One of the explosions that followed sent a fireball at least 300 feet into the air, McClung said.



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I just posted this to the general discussion group because it has nothing to do with politics. Oil should be transported by safe pipelines where practical. Period. There is no politics in safety statistics. Yes, pipelines can rupture.....statistically much less than derailments.....yes, pipelines Kill American rail jobs, but productivity and safety come first.

It has everything to do with politics... as you'll ignore apparently when obama vetoes the pipeline.

Sal wrote:More oil spills from pipelines than from rail cars annually.

And, stronger standards could make rail cars even safer.

Pipelines also carry a much larger percentage of product. Not all pipelines are created equal either, projects like the KS have more numerous safety features to prevent or minimize a breach than older pipelines.

"In the U.S., 70% of crude oil and petroleum products are shipped by pipeline. 23% of oil shipments are on tankers and barges over water. Trucking only accounts for 4% of shipments, and rail for a mere 3%. In Canada, it’s even more lopsided. Almost all (97%) of natural gas and petroleum products are transported by pipelines (Canadian Energy Pipeline Association).


Amid a North American energy boom and a lack of pipeline capacity, crude oil shipping on rail is suddenly increasing. The trains are getting bigger and towing more and more tanker cars. From 1975 to 2012, trains were shorter and spills were rare and small, with about half of those years having no spills above a few gallons (EarthJustice.org). Then came 2013, in which more crude oil was spilled in U.S. rail incidents than was spilled in the previous thirty-seven years."

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesconca/2014/04/26/pick-your-poison-for-crude-pipeline-rail-truck-or-boat/

Don't forget who is profiting handsomely by this... it reminds me of the hearst marijuana prohibition.

Yellow journalism still works wonders on useful idiots.

http://www.investmentnews.com/article/20141116/REG/141119930/warren-buffetts-railroad-buyout-sees-big-returns-thanks-to-oil-boom

The first leg of the Keystone pipeline is bringing crude to Illinois and Indiana refineries.....I saw them build it and know exactly where it goes. It has been transporting crude safely without accident for over 5 years. Last year was a record for train derailments. I was watching absurd logic on the Ed Shultz show that we should simply outlaw rail cars transporting oil in America and go to solar and wind. When this cuckoo talking heads get on TV they make real environmentalist cringe. Yes, we need more solar and wind, and yes rail transportation is more dangerous than pipelines, but now there argument is "you cannot safely transport crude without risk, therefore stop drilling for oil".......complete and utter idiocy. Improve rail car safety beyond the newest design, which by the way is the one that failed yesterday, and require double walled transport, slower speeds, better regulation of track beds and train speeds. This crude is being transported through population centers which have 25 million within the blast zone in a derailment. Ban....NO!...regulate and improve.....YES!

A pipeline in eastern Montana recently ruptured and spilled 50,000 gallons of crude into the Yellowstone River. This is the second pipeline spill into that river in the past year. The town of Dickinson had to have bottled water brought in...the spill could not be contained because it was covered with frozen ice. It's COLD in that part of the world...making pipelines less safe.

2seaoat wrote:I just posted this to the general discussion group because it has nothing to do with politics.   Oil should be transported by safe pipelines where practical.  Period.  There is no politics in safety statistics.  Yes, pipelines can rupture.....statistically much less than derailments.....yes, pipelines Kill American rail jobs, but productivity and safety come first.

The Keystone Pipeline has nothing to do with politics? In your dreams my friend!

2seaoat wrote:I just posted this to the general discussion group because it has nothing to do with politics.   Oil should be transported by safe pipelines where practical.  Period.  There is no politics in safety statistics.  Yes, pipelines can rupture.....statistically much less than derailments.....yes, pipelines Kill American rail jobs, but productivity and safety come first.

Oil has nothing to do with politics? You are hitting the bong in the evening now too.