61% support Keystone XL pipeline but the ONE delays

2seaoat wrote:PK you really need to use the god given gray matter you were blessed with, or is it just intellectual slothfulness?   First, the permit has expired and it is the Nebraska ranchers and farmers who are objecting at the local permitting level.  It does not matter a wit what the President does or does not do until there is compliance with the permitting process which has expired.

Second, the pipeline is already built and delivering this evil oil as we speak.  This is only the second branch of the pipeline, and it has become a political sound bite.   The pipeline needs to find compliance with the permitting law, and it needs to be built.  Z is entirely correct.  The oil will go to market, the question is which method is the safest and most cost efficient.  The answer is simple.  Complete the second leg of the pipeline.

However, when our resident libertarian argues that a Nebraska rancher should allow a foreign national corporation to come onto his land and use the power of imminent domain to condemn his land and force him to accept a route without that farmer or rancher being allowed during the permitting process to show his environmental concerns and offer less risky routes at permitting hearings...........then exactly whose liberty does PK really stand for in his feudalism he preaches.   If one renders his essence down........it smells like the kid raised in Texas still has some of that good ol boy 1950 motivation on how the world should look......and the politics is secondary to his disdain for government and what has happened in the last fifty years as democracy now involves all the people.

Floridatexan wrote:
Where are the benefits?  

Sal wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:
Where are the benefits?  

Solely on Wall Street.

And, so it shall be built.

Markle wrote:

Sal wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:
Where are the benefits?  

Solely on Wall Street.

And, so it shall be built.

Which benefits the vast majority of the country AND will enable us to be less dependent on foreign oil.  I thought that was a benefit too.  Also, the fact that there is far less danger in a pipeline and far less ENERGY consumed transporting oil by pipeline than by rail or truck.

President Barack Hussein Obama sees a cost free, to HIM of clinging desperately to money from far left environmentalists for the November campaign.  A multi-billionaire from California has promised $150 MILLION to any candidate opposing the pipeline.  I wonder if he owns trucks or rail lines?

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:

Markle wrote:

Sal wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:
Where are the benefits?  

Solely on Wall Street.

And, so it shall be built.

Which benefits the vast majority of the country AND will enable us to be less dependent on foreign oil.  I thought that was a benefit too.  Also, the fact that there is far less danger in a pipeline and far less ENERGY consumed transporting oil by pipeline than by rail or truck.

President Barack Hussein Obama sees a cost free, to HIM of clinging desperately to money from far left environmentalists for the November campaign.  A multi-billionaire from California has promised $150 MILLION to any candidate opposing the pipeline.  I wonder if he owns trucks or rail lines?

First paragraph = Fact. Second paragraph = Spin.

Markle wrote:

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:

Markle wrote:

Sal wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:
Where are the benefits?  

Solely on Wall Street.

And, so it shall be built.

Which benefits the vast majority of the country AND will enable us to be less dependent on foreign oil.  I thought that was a benefit too.  Also, the fact that there is far less danger in a pipeline and far less ENERGY consumed transporting oil by pipeline than by rail or truck.

President Barack Hussein Obama sees a cost free, to HIM of clinging desperately to money from far left environmentalists for the November campaign.  A multi-billionaire from California has promised $150 MILLION to any candidate opposing the pipeline.  I wonder if he owns trucks or rail lines?

First paragraph = Fact. Second paragraph = Spin.

PLEASE explain what I posted in the second paragraph which is not factually true.

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:

Markle wrote:

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:

Markle wrote:

Sal wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:
Where are the benefits?  

Solely on Wall Street.

And, so it shall be built.

Which benefits the vast majority of the country AND will enable us to be less dependent on foreign oil.  I thought that was a benefit too.  Also, the fact that there is far less danger in a pipeline and far less ENERGY consumed transporting oil by pipeline than by rail or truck.

President Barack Hussein Obama sees a cost free, to HIM of clinging desperately to money from far left environmentalists for the November campaign.  A multi-billionaire from California has promised $150 MILLION to any candidate opposing the pipeline.  I wonder if he owns trucks or rail lines?

First paragraph = Fact. Second paragraph = Spin.

PLEASE explain what I posted in the second paragraph which is not factually true.

It is mostly just your opinion, conflated with information to make it look like it is real. Good enough? That is about as factual as it gets.  

Markle wrote:

Sal wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:
Where are the benefits?  

Solely on Wall Street.

And, so it shall be built.

Which benefits the vast majority of the country AND will enable us to be less dependent on foreign oil.  I thought that was a benefit too.  Also, the fact that there is far less danger in a pipeline and far less ENERGY consumed transporting oil by pipeline than by rail or truck.

President Barack Hussein Obama sees a cost free, to HIM of clinging desperately to money from far left environmentalists for the November campaign.  A multi-billionaire from California has promised $150 MILLION to any candidate opposing the pipeline.  I wonder if he owns trucks or rail lines?

Markle wrote:

Sal wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:
Where are the benefits?  

Solely on Wall Street.

And, so it shall be built.

Which benefits the vast majority of the country AND will enable us to be less dependent on foreign oil.  I thought that was a benefit too.  Also, the fact that there is far less danger in a pipeline and far less ENERGY consumed transporting oil by pipeline than by rail or truck.

President Barack Hussein Obama sees a cost free, to HIM of clinging desperately to money from far left environmentalists for the November campaign.  A multi-billionaire from California has promised $150 MILLION to any candidate opposing the pipeline.  I wonder if he owns trucks or rail lines?