We are already at war with the government!

Wordslinger wrote:The cops are the enforcers of the government, backed up by National Guard, etd.  We have all seen a number of incidents where unnarmed, non-resistant citizens are bullied, beaten, tased and even shot down by those who are sworn to protect and to serve.

All of us are under constant electronic surveillance, as authorized by our government which no longer adheres to any part of the constitution.

Many of us recognize that we are already at war with our government and the corporations that own it.

Sooner or later the rest of you will.

Reality.

http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/not-war-its-12-year-old-boy-crowd-erupts-when-cop-beats-handcuffed-boy-video?akid=12600.260394.75ITvr&rd=1&src=newsletter1028986&t=3

KarlRove wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:The cops are the enforcers of the government, backed up by National Guard, etd.  We have all seen a number of incidents where unnarmed, non-resistant citizens are bullied, beaten, tased and even shot down by those who are sworn to protect and to serve.

All of us are under constant electronic surveillance, as authorized by our government which no longer adheres to any part of the constitution.

Many of us recognize that we are already at war with our government and the corporations that own it.

Sooner or later the rest of you will.

Reality.

http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/not-war-its-12-year-old-boy-crowd-erupts-when-cop-beats-handcuffed-boy-video?akid=12600.260394.75ITvr&rd=1&src=newsletter1028986&t=3

The National Guard has done none of that. Get over it.

Wordslinger wrote:The cops are the enforcers of the government, backed up by National Guard, etd.  We have all seen a number of incidents where unnarmed, non-resistant citizens are bullied, beaten, tased and even shot down by those who are sworn to protect and to serve.

All of us are under constant electronic surveillance, as authorized by our government which no longer adheres to any part of the constitution.

Many of us recognize that we are already at war with our government and the corporations that own it.

Sooner or later the rest of you will.

Reality.

http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/not-war-its-12-year-old-boy-crowd-erupts-when-cop-beats-handcuffed-boy-video?akid=12600.260394.75ITvr&rd=1&src=newsletter1028986&t=3

KarlRove wrote:Wordslinger - did you see the MNG acting like the a kent state troops ? No, you did not enough said

KarlRove wrote:You haven't heard of Oathkeepers have you?

Wordslinger wrote:

KarlRove wrote:You haven't heard of Oathkeepers have you?

I remember reading something about them several years ago, some unorganized group of quasi military types who claim they would never turn their weapons on Americans ...

Then their impact lessened and I think their numbers today are probably inconsequential.  Tell us, what percent of current members of U.S. military forces have signed on, if you can. My guess is the so-called Oathkeepers numbers are less than 4% of active service members.

The big corporations who control our government are counting on folks just like you to preserve their profit-making.

I have little doubt that gung-ho warriors like you wouldn't hesitate to gun down innocent men, women or children if so ordered.  Iraq and Afghanistan have prepared you  people for just this kind of obedience.

Screw America Inc.!! Corporate control of our government through campaign financing.

Markle wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:

KarlRove wrote:You haven't heard of Oathkeepers have you?

I remember reading something about them several years ago, some unorganized group of quasi military types who claim they would never turn their weapons on Americans ...

Then their impact lessened and I think their numbers today are probably inconsequential.  Tell us, what percent of current members of U.S. military forces have signed on, if you can. My guess is the so-called Oathkeepers numbers are less than 4% of active service members.

The big corporations who control our government are counting on folks just like you to preserve their profit-making.

I have little doubt that gung-ho warriors like you wouldn't hesitate to gun down innocent men, women or children if so ordered.  Iraq and Afghanistan have prepared you  people for just this kind of obedience.

Screw America Inc.!! Corporate control of our government through campaign financing.

Wordslinger wrote:The cops are the enforcers of the government, backed up by National Guard, etd.  We have all seen a number of incidents where unnarmed, non-resistant citizens are bullied, beaten, tased and even shot down by those who are sworn to protect and to serve.

All of us are under constant electronic surveillance, as authorized by our government which no longer adheres to any part of the constitution.

Many of us recognize that we are already at war with our government and the corporations that own it.

Sooner or later the rest of you will.

Reality.

http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/not-war-its-12-year-old-boy-crowd-erupts-when-cop-beats-handcuffed-boy-video?akid=12600.260394.75ITvr&rd=1&src=newsletter1028986&t=3

Joanimaroni wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:The cops are the enforcers of the government, backed up by National Guard, etd.  We have all seen a number of incidents where unnarmed, non-resistant citizens are bullied, beaten, tased and even shot down by those who are sworn to protect and to serve.

All of us are under constant electronic surveillance, as authorized by our government which no longer adheres to any part of the constitution.

Many of us recognize that we are already at war with our government and the corporations that own it.

Sooner or later the rest of you will.

Reality.

http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/not-war-its-12-year-old-boy-crowd-erupts-when-cop-beats-handcuffed-boy-video?akid=12600.260394.75ITvr&rd=1&src=newsletter1028986&t=3

 We have all seen a number of incidents where unnarmed, non-resistant citizens are bullied, beaten, tased and even shot down by those who are sworn to protect and to serve.


How about pointing out some of those incidents ....just so we are all on the same page.

Wordslinger wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:The cops are the enforcers of the government, backed up by National Guard, etd.  We have all seen a number of incidents where unnarmed, non-resistant citizens are bullied, beaten, tased and even shot down by those who are sworn to protect and to serve.

All of us are under constant electronic surveillance, as authorized by our government which no longer adheres to any part of the constitution.

Many of us recognize that we are already at war with our government and the corporations that own it.

Sooner or later the rest of you will.

Reality.

http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/not-war-its-12-year-old-boy-crowd-erupts-when-cop-beats-handcuffed-boy-video?akid=12600.260394.75ITvr&rd=1&src=newsletter1028986&t=3

 We have all seen a number of incidents where unnarmed, non-resistant citizens are bullied, beaten, tased and even shot down by those who are sworn to protect and to serve.


How about pointing out some of those incidents ....just so we are all on the same page.

The kid with the bb gun. the 200lb waving around a realistic looking gun The young man carrying a toy gun inside a Walmart that he intended to purchase. the call to disparch said a man pointing a gun at peopleThe black man who was choked to death. over 30 arrests, he still resisted.The black woman lying on her back while astride her, a California Highway Patrol officer keeps punching her in the face.  subduing a resisting woman that was walking in traffic on the interstate. The officer is off the force and the victim received 1.5 million doloar settlement.The teenagers in handcuffs, beaten by a NY cop on video, the 16 year old not cuffedthe militarized cops with their machine guns and armored vehicles during the first Ferguson protest of Michael Brown's death,a violent protest which included burning builds, police cars, looting, fights, and gunfire from protesters....not one machine gun was fired during the show of force to control an angry mob. the California policeman pepper spraying seated, non-violent protestors on a college campus . . . are we on the same page yet?

Joanimaroni wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:The cops are the enforcers of the government, backed up by National Guard, etd.  We have all seen a number of incidents where unnarmed, non-resistant citizens are bullied, beaten, tased and even shot down by those who are sworn to protect and to serve.

All of us are under constant electronic surveillance, as authorized by our government which no longer adheres to any part of the constitution.

Many of us recognize that we are already at war with our government and the corporations that own it.

Sooner or later the rest of you will.

Reality.

http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/not-war-its-12-year-old-boy-crowd-erupts-when-cop-beats-handcuffed-boy-video?akid=12600.260394.75ITvr&rd=1&src=newsletter1028986&t=3

 We have all seen a number of incidents where unnarmed, non-resistant citizens are bullied, beaten, tased and even shot down by those who are sworn to protect and to serve.


How about pointing out some of those incidents ....just so we are all on the same page.

The kid with the bb gun. the 200lb waving around a realistic looking gun The young man carrying a toy gun inside a Walmart that he intended to purchase. the call to disparch said a man pointing a gun at peopleThe black man who was choked to death. over 30 arrests, he still resisted.The black woman lying on her back while astride her, a California Highway Patrol officer keeps punching her in the face.  The teenagers in handcuffs, beaten by a NY cop on video, the 16 year old not cuffedthe militarized cops with their machine guns and armored vehicles during the first Ferguson protest of Michael Brown's death,a violent protest which included burning builds, police cars, looting, fights, and gunfire from protesters....not one machine gun was fired during the show of force to control an angry mob. the California policeman pepper spraying seated, non-violent protestors on a college campus . . . are we on the same page yet?

No not quite.

2seaoat wrote:We are not at war.  We need simple budget reductions to reel in much of the abuse which has been a blank check since 2001.