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Why aren't the architects of torture being tried for their crimes?

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Wordslinger

Wordslinger

The following article does an excellent job of showing the weakness of our government's recent attempt to curtail torture. Fienstein didn't advocate arresting and trying those who committed these disgusting, denigrating, immoral crimes. Her strongest adjective alleged that the policy was "misguided."

You could say the same about the holocaust, if you were someone hoping Eichmann wouldn't be arrested and tried.


http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/27470-focus-architects-of-atrocity-remain-at-large-and-unrepentant

Guest


Guest

Cool... let's hang em all at the national mall. Amnesty international has the total at little higher 40+ civilians per bad guy.

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2014/12/05/commentary/world-commentary/u-s-drones-kill-28-innocents-for-every-bad-guy/#.VInLzMq2VBM

One example is Qari Hussain, who was a deputy commander of the Pakistani Taliban. A Hellfire missile fired by one of Obama’s Predator drones blew up Hussain on Oct. 15 , 2010. To the president, this was a success.

What the White House doesn’t say, however, is there were five previous drone attacks against Hussain. All five failed, killing scores of innocent people.“For the death of a man whom practically no American can name, the U.S. killed 128 people, 13 of them children, none of whom it meant to harm.”

The 128 civilians-to-one-militant death ratio doesn’t even address the legality of targeting Hussain himself, in violation of a 30 -year-old executive order banning political assassinations, not to mention the long-standing U.S. political tradition prohibiting such actions. All drone assassinations are illegal, but the sloppiness of this program is insane.

Al-Qaida leader Ayman Zawahiri, for example, has survived two drone attacks that killed 76 children and 29 adults.

According to Reprieve’s analysis as of Nov. 24th, 1,147 people were killed in attempts to kill 41 men.

“Drone strikes have been sold to the American public on the claim that they’re ‘precise,” Jennifer Gibson of Reprieve told the Guardian. “But they are only as precise as the intelligence that feeds them.There is nothing precise about intelligence that results in the deaths of 28 unknown people, including women and children, for every “bad guy” the U.S. goes after.”

When do we start the hearings... because I suspect that arms and aid were supplied in obama's administration too.

Markle

Markle

Obviously Wordslinger needs some education in the meaning of torture.  Typical of our Socialist/Communists Wordslinger will do anything to divert attention from the REAL ISSUES.

Why aren't the architects of torture being tried for their crimes? 911bodies

Why aren't the architects of torture being tried for their crimes? Wtc9_11_jumpers

Wordslinger proudly does NOT consider the spouses, loved ones and children not killed in the 9/11 attack but the thousands of people who had to explain to their children, their mothers, fathers and others what happened to their loved ones as having been tortured. Not knowing if their husband or wife was one of the people in the photos jumping from more than 100 stores to their certain death of being burned alive. Living their entire life with that vision isn't torture according to Wordslinger...Wordslinger, whose mentor was one of the greatest evils ever known to man.

Wordslinger, and some of the other far left Progressives think we should treat them gently and ask then sweetly were the masterminds of such heinous attack live.

Disgusting.

Guest


Guest

I'm not seeing your images anymore markle.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Markle wrote:Obviously Wordslinger needs some education in the meaning of torture.  Typical of our Socialist/Communists Wordslinger will do anything to divert attention from the REAL ISSUES.

Why aren't the architects of torture being tried for their crimes? 911bodies

Why aren't the architects of torture being tried for their crimes? Wtc9_11_jumpers

Wordslinger proudly does NOT consider the spouses, loved ones and children not killed in the 9/11 attack but the thousands of people who had to explain to their children, their mothers, fathers and others what happened to their loved ones as having been tortured.  Not knowing if their husband or wife was one of the people in the photos jumping from more than 100 stores to their certain death of being burned alive.  Living their entire life with that vision isn't torture according to Wordslinger...Wordslinger, whose mentor was one of the greatest evils ever known to man.

Wordslinger, and some of the other far left Progressives think we should treat them gently and ask then sweetly were the masterminds of such heinous attack live.

Disgusting.

No Mr. Markle. What's disgusting, truly disgusting, is your advocacy for America to turn away from any form of upstanding moral integrity and behave like savages because our enemies are savage. The 9-11 tragedy was committed by terrorists who deserve to be caught and brought to justice by legal means. Repeat, legal means. In our rampant desire to wreak revenge for 9-11, your idols, Dubya and Cheney ordered the CIA to commit international, despicable crimes that make America's image across the globe, that of a depraved, bloodthirsty and terrible country run by despicable tyrants.

In addition to the use of torture, your pathetic idols arranged for the United States to invade Iraq -- a country which had absolutely nothing whatever to do with the Twin Tower disaster.

Your advocacy for torture tells everyone here just what kind of value-less, depraved, immoral, and unintelligent character you really are.

The tortures committed accomplished little if anything -- other than turning the average American against the political leaders and the depraved agency who executed the program.

The policy was stupid Mr. Markle: in addition to the negative fallout with which our nation is plagued, the torture policy -- in combination with the atrocious behavior at Abu Graib has succeeded in becoming a primal force in the recruiting of new terrorists by those committed to our destruction.

But thank you for once again defining just what kind of guy you really are -- vision-less, and absent moral scruples or decency.

Reality.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

PkrBum wrote:Cool... let's hang em all at the national mall. Amnesty international has the total at little higher 40+ civilians per bad guy.

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2014/12/05/commentary/world-commentary/u-s-drones-kill-28-innocents-for-every-bad-guy/#.VInLzMq2VBM

One example is Qari Hussain, who was a deputy commander of the Pakistani Taliban. A Hellfire missile fired by one of Obama’s Predator drones blew up Hussain on Oct. 15 , 2010. To the president, this was a success.

What the White House doesn’t say, however, is there were five previous drone attacks against Hussain. All five failed, killing scores of innocent people.“For the death of a man whom practically no American can name, the U.S. killed 128 people, 13 of them children, none of whom it meant to harm.”

The 128 civilians-to-one-militant death ratio doesn’t even address the legality of targeting Hussain himself, in violation of a 30 -year-old executive order banning political assassinations, not to mention the long-standing U.S. political tradition prohibiting such actions. All drone assassinations are illegal, but the sloppiness of this program is insane.

Al-Qaida leader Ayman Zawahiri, for example, has survived two drone attacks that killed 76 children and 29 adults.

According to Reprieve’s analysis as of Nov. 24th, 1,147 people were killed in attempts to kill 41 men.

“Drone strikes have been sold to the American public on the claim that they’re ‘precise,” Jennifer Gibson of Reprieve told the Guardian. “But they are only as precise as the intelligence that feeds them.There is nothing precise about intelligence that results in the deaths of 28 unknown people, including women and children, for every “bad guy” the U.S. goes after.”

When do we start the hearings... because I suspect that arms and aid were supplied in obama's administration too.

It doesn't matter which president commits crimes against humanity -- ANYONE who does should be brought to justice.

I'm not protecting Obama in this issue. But why do you avoid condemning Bush and the CIA for their crimes?

2seaoat



So anybody who attacks our country can justify torture in response to the attack......splendid logic. No wonder you stick to cut and paste. You do not have to expose your inability to carry on an intellectual conversation about a subject. An amazing display of logic. Does showing people leaping from buildings excuse torture?

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

2seaoat wrote:So anybody who attacks our country can justify torture in response to the attack......splendid logic.  No wonder you stick to cut and paste.  You do not have to expose your inability to carry on an intellectual conversation about a subject.   An amazing display of logic.  Does showing people leaping from buildings excuse torture?

Evidently it does to Mr. Markle, who never thinks before he opens his mouth!

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Our resident curmudgeon also fails to recognize that the torture history of Khalid Shaikh Mohammed assures that he can never be brought before a real American court (not a contrived military trial) and if convicted, executed for his crimes.

We didn't need to torture this guy to prove he was involved with the 9-11 conspiracy -- according to government statements, we already had enough evidence without the torture.

But what the hell, Mr. Markle is never concerned with reality or facts.

Or with preserving America's now-tainted image of true concern for human rights.

It's good to know your enemies!!

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