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Obama Denies Lying to pass Obamacaid

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Dispite seagoat claiming to read between lines of thousands of pages. He also doubled down on pelosi's denial that gruber was part of the construction of the law. I think there's a distinction for his legacy here... the biggest liar to ever hold the office.

Which is impressive considering the company... particularly some recent competition from the likes of nixon and clinton.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/theoval/2014/11/16/obama-health-care-law-jonathan-gruber-g-20-news-conference/19129763/

President Obama says he and his administration did not mislead the public on the financing of the health care law,disputing statements by a consultant who said supporters of the bill took advantage of the "stupidity" of American voters.

"The fact that an adviser who was never on our staff expressed an opinion that I completely disagree with in terms of the voters is not a reflection on the actual process that was run," Obama told reporters at a news conference following the G-20 summit in Brisbane,Australia.

Obama was responding to a recently discovered videotape featuring Jonathan Gruber,an MIT professor and outside adviser of health care. Gruber said the Obama administration obscured the financing of the law in order to get it passed.

"If you have a law that makes explicit that healthy people pay in and sick people get money,it wouldn't have passed," Gruber said on the video. "Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage and,basically,call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever. But basically that was really critical to getting the thing to pass."

"While Gruber was not a staffer,he was a paid consultant whose models were used to help assess the impact of various policy changes being considered as part of health care legislation. Official logs show he visited the White House about a dozen times between 2009 and this year.

"Despite Obama's dismissive tone toward Gruber,the president has acknowledged that some of his own statements about the law were ill-advised,in particular his repeated promises that if Americans liked their health care plans they could keep them. In fact,many plans were deemed inadequate under the law,leading people to get notices that their plans were being canceled."

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Lol... he was the target audience. I was wondering if we could count exactly how many lies there were:

"So let me begin by saying this to you and to the American people: I know that there are millions of Americans who are content with their health care coverage -- they like their plan and, most importantly, they value their relationship with their doctor. They trust you. And that means that no matter how we reform health care,we will keep this promise to the American people: If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor, period. ... If you like your health care plan,you'll be able to keep your health care plan, period. ... No one will take it away, no matter what. My view is that health care reform should be guided by a simple principle: Fix what's broken and build on what works. And that's what we intend to do."

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20,000 pages of lies

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This whole last five years and ten months have been a lie

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It must hurt knowing that the legislation was passed, it is working, and the transition to Medicare for all in the next decade is all but certain. I love the four year whine. I think the realization that congress will not repeal it, and the Supreme Court will further penalize the red states which did not set up state exchanges where the Supreme Court will send it back to congress to clarify it, and people will lose benefits. The perfect accelerator for 2016 and the transition to Medicare for all. I guess I would be whining to if the subsidy money will only be going to those wise enough to set up state exchanges......this will get better and better. Oh, by the way, the American voters had ample opportunity to throw the President out of office if they thought the ACA was bad, but then again the small bus crew were talking about Bhengazi.

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This whole last five years and ten months have been a lie


Certainly for people with low IQs I would not disagree. Fortunately, we have a presidential election in 2016 and the low IQ folks can be lead around with Bhengazi and the ACA is bad, but most Americans are not stupid, and the results are certain. Sorry, it must be driving some of you mad. I am enjoying the news stories this year how well the exchanges are being accepted and understood. Like fingernails on the chalkboard from some of you.

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This was a good one he repeated over and over that obamacaid would save the average family 2,500 a year in premiums.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_o65vMUk5so

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2seaoat wrote:It must hurt knowing that the legislation was passed, it is working, and the transition to Medicare for all in the next decade is all but certain. I love the four year whine. I think the realization that congress will not repeal it, and the Supreme Court will further penalize the red states which did not set up state exchanges where the Supreme Court will send it back to congress to clarify it, and people will lose benefits. The perfect accelerator for 2016 and the transition to Medicare for all. I guess I would be whining to if the subsidy money will only be going to those wise enough to set up state exchanges......this will get better and better. Oh, by the way, the American voters had ample opportunity to throw the President out of office if they thought the ACA was bad, but then again the small bus crew were talking about Bhengazi.

"Let me also say that -- let me also address a illegitimate concern that's being put forward by those who are claiming that a public option is somehow a Trojan horse for a single-payer system. I'll be honest; there are countries where a single-payer system works pretty well. But I believe -- and I've taken some flak from members of my own party for this belief -- that it's important for our reform efforts to build on our traditions here in the United States. So when you hear the naysayers claim that I'm trying to bring about government-run health care,know this: They're not telling the truth."

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2seaoat wrote:This whole last five years and ten months have been a lie


Certainly for people with low IQs I would not disagree.  Fortunately, we have a presidential election in 2016 and the low IQ folks can be lead around with Bhengazi and the ACA is bad, but most Americans are not stupid, and the results are certain.   Sorry, it must be driving some of you mad.  I am enjoying the news stories this year how well the exchanges are being accepted and understood.   Like fingernails on the chalkboard from some of you.

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Oh look! The legacy of the Obama administration and the Democratic party continues!

I can see the memoires now...

'The president who thought everyone was stupid!'

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ljy6PTbX9I

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Health care inflation almost stopped in its track. Fifty billion in savings. The web sites all working and people getting good choices in shopping for health care. Folks retiring early and enjoying the new found freedom of not being tied to a job for coverage. People are getting it, but it is too funny that there was ample opportunity to defeat the President in 2012, but the American people overwhelmingly supported this president. So the midterms became a proxy for the President's job.......not, and now the whining that folks were lied to.......nope........stupid is permanent. Now the President will have some fun with his last two years......it is time to rub the puppies noses in it.

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2seaoat wrote:This whole last five years and ten months have been a lie


Certainly for people with low IQs I would not disagree.  Fortunately, we have a presidential election in 2016 and the low IQ folks can be lead around with Bhengazi and the ACA is bad, but most Americans are not stupid, and the results are certain.   Sorry, it must be driving some of you mad.  I am enjoying the news stories this year how well the exchanges are being accepted and understood.   Like fingernails on the chalkboard from some of you.

You are in denial LOL

Even the GOV that you are defending isn't saying what youre saying LMAO!

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2seaoat wrote:Health care inflation almost stopped in its track.  Fifty billion in savings.  The web sites all working and people getting good choices in shopping for health care.  Folks retiring early and enjoying the new found freedom of not being tied to a job for coverage.  People are getting it, but it is too funny that there was ample opportunity to defeat the President in 2012, but the American people overwhelmingly supported this president.  So the midterms became a proxy for the President's job.......not, and now the whining that folks were lied to.......nope........stupid is permanent.  Now the President will have some fun with his last two years......it is time to rub the puppies noses in it.

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Are you getting in touch with your liberal Dixiecrat side today?

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“I will not sign a plan that adds one dime to our deficits —either now or in the future,”

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And he closes down the government, the national monuments, national parks, etc... when the Republican controlled house sends him exactly what he promised in the budget they wrote up.

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Of course the obama lies turn exponential once they leave his teleprompter.

Rep. Tony Cárdenas: "If you have insurance right now, your plan stays the same. This means if you get your health insurance through work, if you have Medicare or if you are a member of California Healthy Families, you keep that coverage." ("What Valley Residents Need to Know about Health Care Reform")

Rep. Kathy Castor: "…If you like your health insurance, you can keep it. Keep your current doctor as you see fit." ("What Does Health Insurance Reform Mean for You?")

"Nothing in this bill will force you to drop your current coverage. Rest assured, if you like your health insurance, you can keep it." (Press Release, 7/31/2009)

Rep. Gerry Connolly: "I already have insurance through an employer, a union, Medicare, Medicaid, TriCare, the VA, COBRA, or a retirement plan. Do I need to do anything? No. If you have coverage from any of these sources, you can keep it. Nothing in the Affordable Care Act requires you to change plans." (Obamacare FAQ)

Rep. Jim Costa: "I currently have an insurance plan that works. How will the new health care law affect me? Health reform protects existing coverage, and encourages employers to maintain it. It also improves current coverage by strengthening consumer protections." (Obamacare FAQ)

Rep. Joseph Crowley: "Our health care plan provides stability and security for those who have health insurance. If you like what you have, you can keep it." (Press Release, 11/7/2009)

Rep. Henry Cuellar: "Keep your doctor, and your current plan, if you like them." (Health Care Reform Summary, prepared by House Democratic Leadership, 8/10/2009)

Rep. Peter DeFazio: "The legislation is not a government takeover of health care. It will not get between anyone and their doctor. If you have insurance, you can keep your current plan." (Press Release, 3/24/2010)

Rep. Ted Deutch: "If you have job-based health insurance you like, you can keep it." (Health Care FAQ)

Rep. Lloyd Doggett: "If you already have coverage through your employer, Medicare, TRICARE, or some other source, you can keep that insurance and you are not required to buy additional coverage." (The Affordable Care Act)

Rep. Keith Ellison: "If you like the insurance you have, you can keep it. Don't listen to that stuff you heard in the last hour, Mr. Speaker. The truth is, you get to keep your health insurance if that's what you want." (Floor Speech)

Rep. Eliot Engel: "This is a great day for all Americans from all walks of life – seniors, youth, the sick and the healthy. If you have health insurance, you can keep your doctor and your health plan. You like it, you keep it. It's that simple." (Press Release, 11/9/2009)

Rep. Anna Eshoo: "Q. My employer already provides coverage for me and my family and I like my plan. Do I need to do anything differently? A. No. You just keep the coverage you have." (Press Release, as seen on 10/22/2013)

Rep. Sam Farr: "If you have job-based health insurance you like, you can keep it. You're considered covered. You may be able to change to Marketplace coverage if you prefer." (Obamacare FAQ)

Rep. John Garamendi: "Just six months after our historic health insurance reforms were signed into law, important consumer protections are going into effect. These protections mean that never again will your insurance run out or be taken away from you when you need it the most." (Press Release, 10/20/2010)

Rep. Gene Green: "If you have job-based health insurance you like, you can keep it. In fact, with new regulations and standards, the insurance you currently have will include new consumer protections like no lifetime limits, minimum coverage standards, and limits on administrative costs." (Obamacare FAQ)

Rep. Raul Grijalva: "No one is forced to do anything. The entire premise of this legislation is to build on what works in today's system. If you have employer sponsored health care today - as do most insured people – than little to nothing will change, except that your premiums will no longer subsidize coverage for the uninsured. If you are covered in the individual insurance market, you can keep your plan permanently and it will count as acceptable coverage even if it doesn't meet those terms under the new law." (Obamacare FAQ)

Rep. Alcee Hastings: "Individuals who already have health insurance through their employers or are self-insured will keep their insurance. There is absolutely no provision within the ACA that would remove existing coverage from individuals and families. Furthermore, the law will make existing plans more secure and affordable." (Obamacare FAQ)

Rep. Mike Honda: "Under the bill, if you are covered by a large employer, you are not likely to see many changes to your healthcare coverage." (Blog Release, 4/5/2010)

Rep. Steny Hoyer: "We need to build upon the current system of employer-sponsored care, with a system that provides patients their choice of insurance coverage and their choice of doctors. In other words, if you like what you have, you should be able to keep it." (Town Hall Meeting, 4/21/2009)

Rep. Marcy Kaptur: "The goal is to try to get you into a plan that you pick, where you feel you have very carefully monitored care, that you participate in, so nobody's left out, nobody's rejected and you have choices. That sounds like a much better system than we have today for so many people. If you like what you have, you keep it…" (Press Release)

"The whole intention of the law is to relieve some of the worries that seniors face," Congresswoman Kaptur said. And, "you keep the insurance that you have if you like it." (Telephone Townhall)

Rep. Joseph P. Kennedy III: "If you have job-based health insurance you like, it is not necessary to change your plan. You may be able to change to Marketplace coverage if you prefer. Any job-based health plan you currently have qualifies as minimum essential coverage." (Obamacare FAQ)

Rep. Ron Kind: "In order to increase access to affordable coverage we must make sure no one is denied coverage, specifically due to pre-existing conditions. Reform seeks to build on the existing system so that if you like your employer sponsored health insurance, you can keep it." (Press Release, 7/22/2009)

Rep. Jim Langevin: "Keep your doctor, and your current plan, if you like them." (Newsletter, 8/10/2009)

Rep. Rick Larsen: "This bill will give the power back to the American consumer. It preserves choice and creates competition in the insurance market. If you like your plan, you can keep your plan. If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. If you change jobs, you can keep your coverage." (Press Release, 3/21/2010)

Rep. John Larson: "I am committed to health care reform that allows you to keep your current plan if you like it, reform that puts you and your doctor in charge of your care. The cost of inaction on health care will continue to debilitate our families, small businesses, and our nation." (Press Release, 8/24/2009)

Rep. Sander Levin: "If you like your current health plan, you will be able to keep it. But it is clear that our nation wants us to fix what's not working by reducing costs, increasing prevention, improving quality, and covering uninsured Americans," said Rep. Levin." (Press Release, 6/9/2009)

Rep. Michelle Lujan-Grisham: "If you are already receiving coverage through eligible employer-sponsored insurance, eligible individual insurance, grandfathered health plans, and federal programs such as Medicare, Medicaid, VA Health Care, CHIP and others, you do not need to purchase new health insurance." (Blog Post, 11/6/2013)

Rep. Doris Matsui: "If you are insured and already have a "qualified" health insurance plan through your employer, nothing changes. You can keep your plan. You can keep your doctor." (Obamacare FAQ)

Rep. Jerry McNerney: "Reforming health care is a fiscally responsible course of action that will build on the best of the American system by making sure people can keep their current insurance if they like it and choose what doctors they want see." (Press Release, 3/22/2010)

Rep. George Miller: "If you get insurance through your job or have Medicare, you don't need to do anything – you can keep your insurance." (Blog Post, 9/30/2013)

Rep. Rick Nolan: "If you like the plan you have, you can keep it. And in fact, you'll get a host of other built-in new consumer protections." (ACA Resources)

Rep. Frank Palone: "Our health plan fulfills commitments made by this Congress and President Obama to reform health care. The plan … Keeping your doctor and your plan if you like them." (Press Release, 7/19/2009)

Rep. Mark Pocan: I have health insurance from my employer, and I like the plan that I have. Do I get to keep it? "You can keep the plan you have, and will enjoy many of the benefits of the Affordable Care Act, including the prohibiting of insurance companies from dropping your coverage just because you got sick." (ACA FAQ)

Rep. Jared Polis: "If you are currently insured and like the plan you have, you'll likely be able to stick with your current plan." ("Obamacare Enrollment Begins Today," 10/1/2013)

Rep. David Price: "Just as in the past, if you like your doctor, you can choose to stay with your doctor." (Constituent Mailing, 7/14/2013)

Rep. Mike Quigley: "Allows you to keep your coverage and doctor if you like them." (Press Release, 8/20/2009)

Rep. John Sarbanes: "Keep your doctor, and your current plan, if you like them." (Health Care Reform E-Newsletter, 8/12/2009)

Rep. Allyson Schwartz: "If you already have health coverage you like, you can keep it." (ACA: Update)

Rep. Eric Swalwell: "If you have employer-provided health insurance, public program insurance such as Medicare, or are a veteran receiving VA health care, you are considered covered and can keep your current plan." (ACA FAQ)

Rep. Niki Tsongas: The legislation takes significant steps towards covering all Americans, while enabling anyone happy with their current plan to keep it." (Press Release, 3/21/2010)

Rep. Chris Van Hollen: "If you like your doctor and your plan, you can keep them." (Press Release, 7/14/2009)

Rep. Debbie Wasserman-Schultz: "Let me be clear: if you like your current plan, you'll be able to keep it. Rather, we will build on our current system, so we can give you the freedom to choose what works best for you and your family. If you like your doctor, keep your doctor. If you like your current plan, keep your current plan. If you don't, or if you don't have one, then get one that works for you." (Press Release, 7/1/2009)

Rep. Henry Waxman: "If you like your doctor and your current plan, you keep them. But we fundamentally reform the insurance company practices that are failing our families." (Press Release, 3/21/2013)

Rep. Peter Welch: "Under the legislation, individuals with insurance can keep the coverage they have now, and it will get better." (Obamacare FAQ)

Rep. John Yarmuth: "Keep your doctor, and your current plan, if you like them." (Obamacare FAQ, as seen on August 23, 2013)

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1) Carried out military interventionism in Libya without Congressional approval


In June 2011, U.S. Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio) said that Obama had violated the Constitution when he launched military operations in Libya without Congressional approval.

In April 2014, Ralph Nader said that Obama should be impeached for his actions in Libya.

2) Gave a no-bid contract to Halliburton cronies – just like Bush did


In May 2010, it was reported that the Obama administration had selected KBR, a former subsidiary of Halliburton, for a no-bid contract worth as much as $568 million through 2011, just hours after the Justice Department had said it would pursue a lawsuit accusing the Houston-based company of using kickbacks to get foreign contracts.

Don’t be fooled by the words “former subsidiary.” These are the same Halliburton cronies that Bush gave a no-bid contract to.

3) Has an administration full of lobbyists, after promising he wouldn’t have any


On November 15, 2007, in Las Vegas, Nevada, Obama said that lobbyists

“… will not work in my White House.”

However, by February 2010, he had more than 40 lobbyists working in his administration. A list of them can be seen here.

4) Has close ties to Wall St., but pretends to support Occupy Wall St.


Although Obama claims to support the Occupy Wall St. movement, the truth is that he has raised more money from Wall St. than any other candidate during the last 20 years. In early 2012, Obama held a fundraiser where Wall St. investment bankers and hedge fund managers each paid $35,800 to attend. In October 2011, Obama hired Broderick Johnson, a longtime Wall Street lobbyist, to be his new senior campaign adviser. Johnson had worked as a lobbyist for JP Morgan Chase, Bank of America, Fannie Mae, Comcast, Microsoft, and the oil industry.

5) Broke his promise to close Guantanamo Bay


Obama broke his promise to close Guantanamo Bay.

6) Supported the $700 billion TARP corporate-welfare bailout just like Bush


While Senator, Obama voted for the $700 billion TARP bank bailout bill. The bailout rewarded irresponsible and illegal behavior. It redirected resources from more productive uses to less productive uses. It punished the hard working taxpayers who had played by the rules and obeyed the law. It created horrible incentives, and sent the wrong message. The bailout was evil because it rewarded the bad people and punished the good people. No society that does this can expect to remain free or prosperous. Instead of bailing out these corrupt corporations, we should have let them cease to exist, like we did with Enron.

7) Waged the biggest war against medical marijuana of any president, which was the opposite of what he had promised


In May 2008, Obama campaign spokesperson Ben LaBolt said that Obama would end DEA raids on medical marijuana in states where it’s legal. Also in 2008, Obama said that he supported the “basic concept of using medical marijuana for the same purposes and with the same controls as other drugs” and that he was “not going to be using Justice Department resources to try to circumvent state laws.”

However, in February 2010, DEA agents raided a medical marijuana grower in Highlands Ranch in Colorado, a state where medical marijuana is legal. Also in February 2010, DEA agents raided a medical marijuana dispensary in Culver City in California, a state where medical marijuana is legal. In July 2010, the DEA raided at least four medical marijuana growers in San Diego, California. Also in July 2010, the DEA raided a medical marijuana facility in Covelo, California. Then in September 2010, the DEA conducted raids on at least five medical marijuana dispensaries in Las Vegas, Nevada, where medical marijuana is legal. In 2011, the DEA conducted raids on medical marijuana in Seattle, Washington, West Hollywood, California, and Helena, Montana, all places where it is legal. In April 2012, the DEA carried out several raids on medical marijuana in Oakland, California.

In February 2012, Rolling Stone magazine wrote that Obama’s war against medical marijuana went “far beyond anything undertaken by George W. Bush.” In April 2012, Mother Jones magazine wrote: “The president campaigned on the promise that he’d stop federal raids on medical marijuana operations that were in compliance with state laws, a vow that Attorney General Eric Holder repeated after the election. But then the Obama administration raided more than 100 dispensaries in its first three years and is now poised to outpace the Bush administration’s crackdown record.” In May 2012, the Washington Post wrote: “Obama has become more hostile to medical marijuana patients than any president in U.S. history.” In May 2012, U.S. Congressperson Nancy Pelosi (D-California) said she had “strong concerns” about Obama’s forced closure of five medical marijuana facilities in Pelosi’s congressional district. In April 2012, commenting on Obama’s crackdown on medical marijuana, U.S. Congressman Barney Frank (D-Massachusetts) said, “I’m very disappointed… They look more like the Bush administration than the Clinton administration.”

In July 2012, federal prosecutors filed civil forfeiture actions against Harborside Health Center, a medical marijuana dispensary in Oakland, CA, which claims to be the world’s largest, and which claims to serve more than 100,000 medical marijuana patients. In April 2012, federal agents raided Oaksterdam University, an educational institution in Oakland, CA, which teaches people about medical marijuana. In April 2012, federal agents raided a medical marijuana facility which had been serving 1,500 patients near Lake Elsinore, CA. In June 2012, the Obama administration filed asset-forfeiture lawsuits against two landlords who rented their buildings to medical marijuana stores in Santa Fe Springs, CA. The Obama administration also sent warning letters which threatened similar legal action to dozens of other, nearby landlords. During the first seven months of 2012, the DEA shut down 40 medical marijuana dispensaries in Colorado, all of which had been operating in compliance with state and local law.

In April 2013, the DEA raided four medical marijuana dispensaries in Los Angeles, California. Also in April 2013, the DEA raided a medical marijuana dispensary in San Diego, California. In July 2013, the DEA conducted multiple medical marijuana raids in Washington state, including the cities of Olympia, Tacoma, and Seattle. In August 2013, the DEA raided People’s Choice Alternative Medicine, a medical marijuana facility in Ann Arbor, Michigan. In October 2013, the DEA raided 28 medical marijuana facilities in Michigan. In November 2013, the DEA raided 12 medical marijuana facilities in Denver, Colorado.

In May 2012, ABC News reported that during Obama’s youth, he often smoked large quantities of recreational marijuana. Obama’s marijuana smoking wasn’t even medical – it was recreational. And yet now, he is taking large scale, widespread action to prevent people with AIDS, cancer, multiple sclerosis, glaucoma, and other illnesses, who have prescriptions from their doctors, from using their prescription medicine – how cold hearted can a person be?

Cool Nominated a six-time tax cheater to head the government agency that enforces the tax laws


Obama nominated Timothy Geithner, a repeat tax cheater, to head the government agency that enforces the tax laws.

Prior to his nomination, Geithner had:

1) Illegally failed to pay more than $34,000 in social security and medicare taxes

2) Illegally declared the cost of his children’s summer camp as a form of day care.

3) Illegally failed to pay the early withdrawal penalty when he took money out of his retirement plan

4) Illegally declared non-eligible items as a charitable deduction

5) Illegally declared something which was ineligible as a small business deduction

6) Illegally declared utility expenses which had actually been for his personal use

9) Gave tax dollars to AIG executives, then pretended to be outraged about it


Obama signed a “stimulus” bill that spent money on bonuses for AIG executives. Prior to signing this bill, Obama had said, “when I’m president, I will go line by line to make sure that we are not spending money unwisely.” However, after reading “line by line” and signing the “stimulus” bill that protected the AIG bonuses, Obama pretended to be shocked and outraged at the bonuses, and said, “Under these circumstances, it’s hard to understand how derivative traders at A.I.G. warranted any bonuses at all, much less $165 million in extra pay… How do they justify this outrage to the taxpayers who are keeping the company afloat?” and also said that he would “pursue every single legal avenue to block these bonuses.”

10) Expanded Bush’s unconstitutional government faith based programs

Obama expanded the federal government’s faith based programs which had been started by President George W. Bush.

11) Supported Bush’s unconstitutional Patriot Act

In May 2011, Obama signed a renewal of the Patriot Act.

12) Increased the national debt more in one term than Bush did in two


The national debt increased more during Obama’s first three years and two months than it did during all eight years of George W. Bush’s presidency.

13) Agrees with Bush’s support of unconstitutional, indefinite detention of U.S. citizens without filing any charges

In December 2011, ACLU executive director Anthony D. Romero criticized Obama for signing a bill that gave the U.S. government the power to indefinitely detain U.S. citizens without any charges being filed or any trial taking place.

14) Agrees with Bush’s support of unconstitutional, warrantless wiretapping

President Obama has defended warrantless wiretapping.

15) Avoided prosecution of Wall. St criminals

Although Obama had promised to prosecute Wall St. criminals, during his entire first term, his administration did not file any criminal charges against any of the top financial executives.

16) Had four U.S. citizens killed without judicial process

Obama had four U.S. citizens killed without judicial process.

The ACLU accused Obama of violating the U.S. Constitution for doing this.

U.S. Congressman Ron Paul (R-TX) said that Obama’s actions might be an impeachable offense.

Ralph Nader wrote that Obama

“has extended the Bush doctrine by declaring his unilateral right, as secret prosecutor, judge, jury, and executioner, to destroy anybody, anywhere in the world, including American citizens, suspected to be engaged in alleged terrorist activities, all this vaguely and loosely defined as anti-U.S. security.”

17) Ordered private company to fire 1,000 employees

In 2011, after Boeing had hired 1,000 new employees to work at its new factory in South Carolina, the Obama administration ordered Boeing to shut down the factory, because the factory was non-union.
http://danfromsquirrelhill.wordpress.com/2013/08/15/obama-252/

Youll have to go look at the other almost 800 lies documented here.. its too many to post

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I think it's also fair to call the exemptions and waivers a lie... including the reinterpretion to except congress.

List of waivers and exemptions:

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the Obama administration ordered Boeing to shut down the factory,

Most of these lies are simple stupid people incapable of understanding how government works. You stated a lie with the above. The NLRB is an independent body which reviews administrative hearings. It has Republicans and Democrats on the Board. It is independent of any President. However, Presidents can appoint and senate approve those appointments. You see how the hysteria of stupid creates an illusion, and you lack even cursory understanding of how government works.....and it is people like you which eat up this nonsense and then repeat it. Stupid cannot be fixed.

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PkrBum wrote:I think it's also fair to call the exemptions and waivers a lie... including the reinterpretion to except congress.

List of waivers and exemptions:

24 Hour Fitness Allied Building Inspectors IUOE Local 211 Welfare Fund Alpha Omega Home Health,... Paving Industry Employees Health and Welfare Fund PMPS-ILA PS-ILA QK/DRD (Denny's) Reliance Standard Tri-Pak United Agricultural Benefit Trust

Obama Denies Lying to pass Obamacaid Th?&id=HN.608041694436724696&w=300&h=300&c=0&pid=1

When you live in a tyranny the nobles are always exempt from having to follow the laws and pay the levies they create for the peasants. One must remember that the rally call of the nobles is 'The peasants are stupid!'

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Damaged Eagle wrote:
PkrBum wrote:I think it's also fair to call the exemptions and waivers a lie... including the reinterpretion to except congress.

List of waivers and exemptions:

24 Hour Fitness Allied Building Inspectors IUOE Local 211 Welfare Fund Alpha Omega Home Health,... Paving Industry Employees Health and Welfare Fund PMPS-ILA PS-ILA QK/DRD (Denny's) Reliance Standard Tri-Pak United Agricultural Benefit Trust

Obama Denies Lying to pass Obamacaid Th?&id=HN.608041694436724696&w=300&h=300&c=0&pid=1

When you live in a tyranny the nobles are always exempt from having to follow the laws and pay the levies they create for the peasants. One must remember that the rally call of the nobles is 'The peasants are stupid!'

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=if34bKbBqXI

Smile

Classic fascism.

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2seaoat wrote:the Obama administration ordered Boeing to shut down the factory,

Most of these lies are simple stupid people incapable of understanding how government works.  You stated a lie with the above.  The NLRB is an independent body which reviews administrative hearings.  It has Republicans and Democrats on the Board.   It is independent of any President.  However, Presidents can appoint and senate approve those appointments.   You see how the hysteria of stupid creates an illusion, and you lack even cursory understanding of how government works.....and it is people like you which eat up this nonsense and then repeat it.  Stupid cannot be fixed.


Obama Denies Lying to pass Obamacaid Th?id=HN.608016560286730777&w=103&h=164&c=7&rs=1&pid=1

I rest my case Pkr.

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2seaoat wrote:the Obama administration ordered Boeing to shut down the factory,

Most of these lies are simple stupid people incapable of understanding how government works. You stated a lie with the above. The NLRB is an independent body which reviews administrative hearings. It has Republicans and Democrats on the Board. It is independent of any President. However, Presidents can appoint and senate approve those appointments. You see how the hysteria of stupid creates an illusion, and you lack even cursory understanding of how government works.....and it is people like you which eat up this nonsense and then repeat it. Stupid cannot be fixed.

Sometimes I think you don't really believe the bs you post... it seems designed to make the left look as stupid as able.

http://www.peoplesworld.org/senate-confirms-all-five-obama-picks-for-nlrb/

WASHINGTON - Bringing to an end years of right-wing obstruction and delay, the Senate yesterday filled all five National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) seats with permanent members, ensuring the board can go ahead and govern worker-management relations for 85 million U.S. workers, most of them in the private sector.

As a result of the Senate confirmations, following a deal two weeks ago to break Republican obstruction, the NLRB has what it hasn't had in ten years: five full-term members.

Democratic NLRB Chairman Mark Gaston Pearce won a new term by a 59-38 margin, with seven Republicans joining both the Senate independents and 50 Democrats to approve his nomination.

Two strongly pro-labor Democratic nominees, Nancy Schiffer, an AFL-CIO counsel, and Kent Hirozawa, Pearce's top aide, won by 54-44 margins, with only Sen. Lisa Murkowski, R-Alaska, joining both independents and 51 Democrats. Murkowski also voted for Pearce. Her vote seems to be her continuing pay-back to a Republican Party that unsuccessfully backed her tea party opponent in the Alaska GOP's primary election last time around.

The two Republicans nominated by the president, management side labor lawyers Phillip Miscimarra and Harry Johnson, won by unanimous voice votes.

Angry over GOP obstructionism and under pressure from the labor movement and its allies, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., on July 11 filed a motion in the Senate to invoke cloture (in this case end debate) on the NLRB nominations Republicans were stalling and on several other stalled Obama cabinet appointments including Richard Cordroy (Consumer Financial Protection Bureau); Gina McCarthy (Environmental Protection Agency); and Thomas Perez (Department of Labor).

In addition, Reid threatened to exercise the "nuclear option," by which all nominees would be voted on in a single action. To speed things up Reid also vowed to change Senate filibuster rules, so that a simple majority of 51 votes, rather than a three-fifths majority, would be needed to invoke cloture.

"We're not interested in cutting a deal to pass one or two or three nominees," said Reid to the press at the time. "The president deserves to have his team in place, and there are no more major objections to the qualifications of any of these nominees. All we need is six GOP votes to invoke cloture. Let them vote against these people."

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Sometimes I think you don't really believe the bs you post... it seems designed to make the left look as stupid as able.

Richard F. Griffin, Jr. 24 D 01/09/12 - 8/2/13
Nancy J. Schiffer D 8/2/13 -
Kent Y. Hirozawa D 8/5/13 -
Philip A. Miscimarra R 8/7/13 -
Harry I. Johnson, III R 8/12/13 -

These folks made the decision on Boeing. Stupid can not be corrected and ignorance is no excuse. I mean really, you did not know that the NLRB is an independent agency. Your knowledge void which Boards keeps referring to is becoming glaring. Please give substance in your posts which is true and understands who government works, or take the time to learn. I think I try to teach, but damn the void between these Ivory towers of alternative paradigms and reality are amazing.

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2seaoat wrote:Sometimes I think you don't really believe the bs you post... it seems designed to make the left look as stupid as able.

Richard F. Griffin, Jr. 24 D 01/09/12 - 8/2/13
Nancy J. Schiffer D 8/2/13 -
Kent Y. Hirozawa D 8/5/13 -
Philip A. Miscimarra R 8/7/13 -
Harry I. Johnson, III R 8/12/13 -

These folks made the decision on Boeing. Stupid can not be corrected and ignorance is no excuse. I mean really, you did not know that the NLRB is an independent agency. Your knowledge void which Boards keeps referring to is becoming glaring. Please give substance in your posts which is true and understands who government works, or take the time to learn. I think I try to teach, but damn the void between these Ivory towers of alternative paradigms and reality are amazing.

That isn't what I was referencing... I misread what you said about the senate and appointments. I apologize.

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