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obama is going to commit political suicide

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TEOTWAWKI
2seaoat
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And grant some form of amnesty to the illegals through executive order. The dems are going to have a hard time living this one down in 2016, as well they should. If Obama would let this go to a vote in Congress and have them vote it down, the dems would be in a much better place. Obama is too blind to see it that way.

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He's already been legislating... he's a progressive movement all unto himself. The boundaries are dissolving.

Sal

Sal

PACEDOG#1 wrote:If Obama would let this go to a vote in Congress

Idiot says what now?

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Pacedog, you need to begin recognizing that most democrats, like you republicans consider Obama a conservative sellout. A guy who talks left but whose actions are way way to the right.

67% of America's eligible voters didn't vote in the midterms because they are pissed at Obama and you republicans.

You don't like Obama? Neither do I. Only I don't like any of your candidates or your party's platform. Selling out the 97% so you can reap the reward of big, filthy rich campaign donors has zero appeal to most of us.

The two party system isn't working anymore.

Screw Amerika Inc.!!

2seaoat



And grant some form of amnesty to the illegals through executive order. The dems are going to have a hard time living this one down in 2016, as well they should. If Obama would let this go to a vote in Congress and have them vote it down, the dems would be in a much better place. Obama is too blind to see it that way.

Cuckoo for Coca Puffs. The bipartisan senate bill is waiting to be signed and John will not release it to the floor of the House because the fear is that some Republicans from the business side of the Republican Party and swing states will vote for the bill and it will pass. Just have John have the House vote on the Senate Bill. President Obama has nothing to do with that decision.

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2seaoat wrote:And grant some form of amnesty to the illegals through executive order. The dems are going to have a hard time living this one down in 2016, as well they should. If Obama would let this go to a vote in Congress and have them vote it down, the dems would be in a much better place. Obama is too blind to see it that way.

Cuckoo for Coca Puffs.  The bipartisan senate bill is waiting to be signed and John will not release it to the floor of the House because the fear is that some Republicans from the business side of the Republican Party and swing states will vote for the bill and it will pass.  Just have John have the House vote on the Senate Bill.  President Obama has nothing to do with that decision.  

watch and see MR GOP wont win congress again

Sal

Sal

To think that the prion disease infested Repukes in Congress would work with the President to get ANYTHING positive done requires the most profound of stupidity.

No President since Lincoln has faced this level of treason.

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Sal wrote:To think that the prion disease infested Repukes in Congress would work with the President to get ANYTHING positive done requires the most profound of stupidity.

No President since Lincoln has faced this level of treason.

Idiocy... legislation in this country was designed to be a contentious process that involves full disclosure to we the people and representatives that protect those interests. If the policy is sound consensus and compromise will naturally be found.

Treason would be deliberately misleading we the people and manipulating the process to pass law that is unpopular.

Ya fucking commie.

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

PkrBum wrote:
Sal wrote:To think that the prion disease infested Repukes in Congress would work with the President to get ANYTHING positive done requires the most profound of stupidity.

No President since Lincoln has faced this level of treason.

Idiocy... legislation in this country was designed to be a contentious process that involves full disclosure to we the people and representatives that protect those interests. If the policy is sound consensus and compromise will naturally be found.

Treason would be deliberately misleading we the people and manipulating the process to pass law that is unpopular.

Ya fucking commie.


cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers

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TEOTWAWKI wrote:
PkrBum wrote:
Sal wrote:To think that the prion disease infested Repukes in Congress would work with the President to get ANYTHING positive done requires the most profound of stupidity.

No President since Lincoln has faced this level of treason.

Idiocy... legislation in this country was designed to be a contentious process that involves full disclosure to we the people and representatives that protect those interests. If the policy is sound consensus and compromise will naturally be found.

Treason would be deliberately misleading we the people and manipulating the process to pass law that is unpopular.

Ya fucking commie.


cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers

Thanks... I was worried that I was too subtle or not clear enough for leftists to understand.

2seaoat



No President since Lincoln has faced this level of treason.

I would say it is sedition, not treason, and like LIncoln the issue is pretty much the same, and the players are pretty much the same. However, to free the American people from the grip of the Oligarchy controlling media and buying elections, it will take Americans getting off their collective butts and becoming involved at ever level. Voter turnout below 30% gets the government directly proportional to the effort of citizens.

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

Yes and our new Mexican voters will help clean up America like they did Mexico.....

Vikingwoman



"If the policy is sound consensus and compromise will naturally be found."

What an effing idiot,you are Pkr. to say such a thing? Are you on crack or something? Where have you been these last 6 yrs? Lost in the forest?

2seaoat



Yes and our new Mexican voters will help clean up America like they did Mexico.....

Mexico and Latin America as a whole is the model of how corrupting an Oligarchies control over the people can become. 5% of the people usually control 95% of the wealth. Military and police are used to suppress dissent and every attempt at democratic reform is met with a Military junta when the people begin to ask for contribution from the oligarchs. They take their billions of dollars and instead of investing it in industry and job growth for the people in their country, they invest in a condo building in Miami, bleeding their country of capital, and continuing to own all the land. Since Reaganomics we have been fast tracking to become every bit the Oligarchy of our Latin American neighbors with growing criminal justice system which extracts from the poor, and a military greatly out of proportion to the need. Policy and participation matter.

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

Vikingwoman wrote:"If the policy is sound consensus and compromise will naturally be found."

What an effing idiot,you are Pkr. to say such a thing? Are you on crack or something? Where have you been these last 6 yrs? Lost in the forest?

Who's the idiot ?..when you buy a car that is the exact process you go through...it's they way people have made successful and fair transactions since man first sold a goat.

You seem to think the only way you can get what you want is deceit. Oh that's right you are a woman...

2seaoat



when you buy a car that is the exact process you go through...it's they way people have made successful and fair transactions since man first sold a goat.


Ah, but which brand of car? Should it be a truck? Should it be a diesel? Should it be electric? If you think the legislative process is like buying a goat, you miss the point entirely? It is the choice of many options with people pouring billions into their brand, hoping that you select their car, but all the while trying to eliminate any choice at all. Ivory towers are a lonely place to be wrong. Sound policy is choosing a Ford, unless you are the Chevy dealer, and sound policy becomes choosing a Chevy. To deny the role of special interests and money in politics as if this utopia exists where sound policy will bring consensus, is really some whacked Ivory tower chit.

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by PkrBum Today at 12:44 pm
Sal wrote:
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To think that the prion disease infested Repukes in Congress would work with the President to get ANYTHING positive done requires the most profound of stupidity.

No President since Lincoln has faced this level of treason.
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Idiocy... legislation in this country was designed to be a contentious process that involves full disclosure to we the people and representatives that protect those interests. If the policy is sound consensus and compromise will naturally be found.

Treason would be deliberately misleading we the people and manipulating the process to pass law that is unpopular.

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Sorta how the Dems did Obamacare ....

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

2seaoat wrote:when you buy a car that is the exact process you go through...it's they way people have made successful and fair transactions since man first sold a goat.


Ah, but which brand of car?  Should it be a truck?  Should it be a diesel?   Should it be electric?  If you think the legislative process is like buying a goat, you miss the point entirely?   It is the choice of many options with people pouring billions into their brand, hoping that you select their car, but all the while trying to eliminate any choice at all.  Ivory towers are a lonely place to be wrong.  Sound policy is choosing a Ford, unless you are the Chevy dealer, and sound policy becomes choosing a Chevy.  To deny the role of special interests and money in politics as if this utopia exists where sound policy will bring consensus, is really some whacked Ivory tower chit.

No that's just a useless distraction from a simple concept. Yes when you allow criminals to plunder our wealth using government power it becomes something different and something we have tolerated for far to long...let the hangings begin....

Vikingwoman



Oh quit being so damn dishonest about everything. Obama has tried to compromise w/ these people. They say no to everything and shut down the govt. when they don't get what they want. Quit the BS ,man!

Vikingwoman



2seaoat wrote:when you buy a car that is the exact process you go through...it's they way people have made successful and fair transactions since man first sold a goat.


Ah, but which brand of car?  Should it be a truck?  Should it be a diesel?   Should it be electric?  If you think the legislative process is like buying a goat, you miss the point entirely?   It is the choice of many options with people pouring billions into their brand, hoping that you select their car, but all the while trying to eliminate any choice at all.  Ivory towers are a lonely place to be wrong.  Sound policy is choosing a Ford, unless you are the Chevy dealer, and sound policy becomes choosing a Chevy.  To deny the role of special interests and money in politics as if this utopia exists where sound policy will bring consensus, is really some whacked Ivory tower chit.

Thank You! Pkr. gets more whacked every day.

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Obama shut it down clueless

Vikingwoman



Obama shut what down? The govt.?

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

PACEDOG#1 wrote:Obama shut it down clueless

The HOUSE shut down the government by refusing to fund it. What planet do you live on?

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

Thank god someone shuts that mill of misery down sometimes....

the old adage, when you are already in a hole, stop digging...

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by Floridatexan Today at 1:51 pm
PACEDOG#1 wrote:
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Obama shut it down clueless
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The HOUSE shut down the government by refusing to fund it. What planet do you live on?
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It was another example
Of how Obama took his ball and went home.

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