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FBI admits Sandy Hook was a drill..no one died...

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Hospital Bob
TEOTWAWKI
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TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

http://www.politicalears.com/blog/fbi-report-no-deaths-at-sandy-hook-was-exercise-misreported-created-crisis/?utm_content=buffer19f13&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer


According to the FBI's own data, the White House appears to have manufactured a crisis. And they were just caught red-handed.
In a video produced over a year ago, Sandy Hook was revealed as an exercise. Thankfully the government has finally come clean.


So that makes a bunch of you gullible idiots....LOL

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

TEOTWAWKI wrote:


So that makes a bunch of you gullible idiots....LOL

http://www.snopes.com/info/news/sandyhoax.asp

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

Teo,

There were twenty-seven sets of parents for the "allegedly" dead children.
Why have none of them come forward to blow the whistle on this?

Sal

Sal

TEOTWAWKI wrote:


So that makes a bunch of you gullible idiots....LOL

Smile

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

Bob wrote:Teo,

There were twenty-seven sets of parents for the "allegedly" dead children.
Why have none of them come forward to blow the whistle on this?

And what about the funeral home owners and employees.  If there were no actual bodies of dead children in all those caskets,   then all the funeral home owners and employees had to be a part of the "plot" too.
What motive would a funeral home owner and his employees have to want to be a party to this fraud?  Why have none of them come forward to blow the whistle?

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

FBI admits Sandy Hook was a drill..no one died... Gene_rosen-620x412

“I don’t know what to do,” sighed Gene Rosen. “I’m getting hang-up calls, I’m getting some calls, I’m getting emails with, not direct threats, but accusations that I’m lying, that I’m a crisis actor, ‘how much am I being paid?’” Someone posted a photo of his house online. There have been phony Google+ and YouTube accounts created in his name, messages on white supremacist message boards ridiculing the “emotional Jewish guy,” and dozens of blog posts and videos “exposing” him as a fraud. One email purporting to be a business inquiry taunted: “How are all those little students doing? You know, the ones that showed up at your house after the ‘shooting’. What is the going rate for getting involved in a gov’t sponsored hoax anyway?”

“The quantity of the material is overwhelming,” he said. So much so that a friend shields him from most of it by doing daily sweeps of the Web so Rosen doesn’t have to. His wife is worried for their safety. He’s logged every email and every call, and consulted with a retired state police officer, who took the complaint seriously but said police probably can’t do anything at the moment; he plans to do the same with the FBI.

What did Rosen do to deserve this? One month ago, he found six little children and a bus driver at the end of the driveway of his home in Newtown, Conn. “We can’t go back to school,” one little boy told Rosen. “Our teacher is dead.” He brought them inside and gave them food and juice and toys. He called their parents. He sat with them and listened to their shocked accounts of what had happened just down the street inside Sandy Hook Elementary, close enough that Rosen heard the gunshots.

In the hours and days that followed, Rosen did a lot of media interviews. “I wanted to speak about the bravery of the children, and it kind of helped me work through this,” he told Salon in an interview.  “I guess I kind of opened myself up to this.”

The “this” in question is becoming a prime target of the burgeoning Sandy Hook truther movement, which — like its precursor that denied the veracity of the 9/11 terror attacks — alleges that the entire shooting was a hoax of some kind. There were conspiracy theories surrounding the shooting from Day One, but the movement has exploded into public view the past two weeks, and a Google Trends search suggests it’s just now picking up steam. It’s also beginning to earn the backing of presumably credible sources like a professor and a reporter.

Rosen,  a 69-year-old retired psychologist who now runs a pet-sitting business and volunteers to read books to kids in schools, initially called me to ask if I thought he should reach out to the FBI about the harassment. I said it probably couldn’t hurt. When I asked if I could tell his story, he was reluctant at first. “Here’s my fear: If I start talking like this, will one of these truthers read this and will it embolden them? Will they say, screw that guy, how dare he impugn our credibility or question our intellect, I’m going to go one step farther? Am I being stupid?” he asked.

After thinking about it, Rosen decided that he had to speak out: “I talk to you about this because I feel that there has to be some moral push-back on this.” Rosen said he’s a staunch believer in free speech, and realizes there is little legal recourse possible unless he gets direct threats, so he had a different idea.

“There must be some way to morally shame these people, because there were 20 dead children lying an eighth of a mile from my window all night long,” he said, choking back tears. “And I sat there with my wife, because they couldn’t take the bodies out that night so the medical examiner could come. And I thought of an expression, that this ‘adds insult to injury,’ but that’s a stupid expression, because this is not an injury, this is an abomination.”

The harassment has turned Rosen’s life upside down, and made him feel things once foreign to him, like searing rage. “I was sitting in a restaurant the other night and these guys who were part of a car club came up to me and shook my hand and said, ‘You know, you’re a hero to me.’ He had seen me on TV. So I said thank you. Then I’m sitting there and I hear this other guy, ‘Oh yeah, it was a conspiracy.’ He was a big guy,” he said.

“I tell you what, I had evil thoughts. I wanted to go over to the first guy, and he had about 15 big guys with him, and say, ‘I’m going to go talk to this other guy — just watch my back.’ And then I wanted to go over to the other guy and get up in his face and say, ‘See those guys over there, just know they’re keeping an eye out for me.’ And then I wanted to say, ‘I want to see what you look like. I want to see what a person who generates this kind of evil shit looks like. I want to look at your face and tell you you’re an asshole,’” he said.

He didn’t do it, of course. “But it tells me how rageful I am. And I am rageful about it, both for the children and for the mother of the child who came to my house looking for her son, and I wanted to look at this guy and I wanted to just fucking decimate him. That’s my rage.”

But when he starts to feel that way, Rosen can think of the first man. And the countless others out there who see Rosen as a hero, and not a tool of some shadowy conspiracy. Because for every angry call or email, there any many, many more praising ones: “I get the most beautifully written cards, wonderful calls.” Let’s hope they continue to be the majority.

http://www.salon.com/2013/01/15/this_man_helped_save_six_children_is_now_getting_harassed_for_it/

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Wow people are idiots

2seaoat



Wow people are idiots


No, it looks like we are back to the mental health call. There are people who are ill who post here. Nothing new, and there will be gaps, but sick always bleeds through the words. You can put lipstick on a pig......but it still is a pig.

Vikingwoman



TEOTWAWKI wrote:http://www.politicalears.com/blog/fbi-report-no-deaths-at-sandy-hook-was-exercise-misreported-created-crisis/?utm_content=buffer19f13&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer


According to the FBI's own data, the White House appears to have manufactured a crisis. And they were just caught red-handed.
In a video produced over a year ago, Sandy Hook was revealed as an exercise. Thankfully the government has finally come clean.


So that makes a bunch of you gullible idiots....LOL

Good God almighty Teo...and you wonder why people think you're a crackpot?

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

People think I am a crackpot ? Oh darn I didn't know that. I guess I better get my head back up the lying governments ass along with the rest of you.   Exclamation

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

That's the weird thing about it. I've spent an evening with Teo and had lunch with him twice so I've got to know him outside of this social media.
He's not what I ever think of as a crackpot. He's as rational and smart as anyone I've encountered.
I have no idea why he wants to believe this outlandish stuff. It's a total mystery to me.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

But I do have some clues to go on. And one comes on the radio in a few minutes. If you want to hear it and you're in Pensacola it starts at 8:06 pm at 790 on the AM dial.

I can only say one thing to my one time hero Papa Don who owns that radio station. Papa Ding Dong Diddley Daddy you've done us wrong just to make a buck. And back in the day we all thought you were special.

2seaoat



It's a total mystery to me.

He blew up women and children serving this country when he was a kid.......few have walked in his shoes or have to deal with the mental health issues which come with that experience. He has deep seated mental health issues which probably not one of us would not share if we had been thrown into his same position. There was a line from Grand Torrino when Clint Eastwood had just listened to a lecture from the young priest about having counseled vets on the awful things they had been ordered to do at war, when Clint responded it was not the things which he was ordered to do which gnaw at him. He is as wounded as a person missing a limb. I am not trying to excuse some of his behavior on these forums, but I do not discount his pain.

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

WELL BOB I SAW interstellar AND NOW I AM DEAF.  It wasn't that bad. I can see what you didn't like about it most.  In the FUTURE mankind does away with federal text books and declares we never landed on the moon. It was all a ploy to bankrupt the Soviet Union. LOL

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

TEOTWAWKI wrote:WELL BOB I SAW interstellar AND NOW I AM DEAF.  It wasn't that bad. I can see what you didn't like about it most.  In the FUTURE mankind does away with federal text books and declares we never landed on the moon. It was all a ploy to bankrupt the Soviet Union. LOL

Haha, yea I immediately thought of you when part of the story premise is, in the future, everyone is being taught that the moon landing was a hoax. lol


Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

But that's not what soured me on the movie.  What did that is seeing a conventional spacecraft (which resembles a ride at Disney) travel into and through a black hole and come out unscathed on the other side with the human occupants still alive and intact.  And then when they get on the other side it turns into a two hour long space opera.

The movie attempts to address a really interesting premise.  That one day Earth will no longer support human habitation.  And hopefully we'll be able to escape from Earth and avoid extinction.  Heady stuff.
But the Batman director was not up to it.

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

To the directors credit he only had 3 hours to convey a very contorted concept. He wasn't actually in a black hole he had been shifted into another dimension by people from the future . He used gravity to convey the message back to his daughter which then was used to save mankind which then saved him from the black hole......... What a Face very much like the ending to 2001 a space odyssey.

QueenOfHearts

QueenOfHearts

Teo, what are your answers to Bob'S questions?

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

TEOTWAWKI wrote: To the directors credit he only had 3 hours to convey a very contorted concept. He wasn't actually in a black hole he had been shifted into another dimension by people from the future . He used gravity to convey the message back to his daughter which then was used to save mankind which then saved him from the black hole......... What a Face very much like the ending to 2001 a space odyssey.

After reading your post,  I took a look at the movie plot in Wiki.
I now realize I missed a lot of the dialogue because when I stuffed my ears to protect them from the loud soundtrack noise,  that made it hard to make out much of the dialogue.
So now I'm looking forward to a viewing of the DVD when I can tamp down the background sound and bring up my center channel which carries all the spoken voices.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

TEOTWAWKI wrote:To the directors credit he only had 3 hours to convey a very contorted concept. He wasn't actually in a black hole he had been shifted into another dimension by people from the future . He used gravity to convey the message back to his daughter which then was used to save mankind which then saved him from the black hole......... What a Face very much like the ending to 2001 a space odyssey.

Cooper goes into a black hole, and in that hole, he basically time travels. Is that possible?

In short, probably not. At least Harrison isn’t buying it. “I think this is a construct of the movie,” she says, “that it’s a self-consistent set of rules. That to communicate backwards in time, that can only be done through gravity or what we call ripples in space-time. I think there’s no real basis for it. But there’s no physical law that rules it out.”


Then he ends up outside of the black hole. Aren’t black holes supposed to keep you inside forever?

Yes. Black holes, are, as Jackson calls them, “a one-way ride.” “If you’re inside a black hole, that’s actually very bad news, because you’re never, ever coming out,” Jackson says.

That’s because once you enter a black hole, the roles of space and time are reversed. “Just like you can’t go back in time right now—you can move back and forth in space but you can’t move back and forth in time—that’s why you can’t leave a black hole,” Jackson says. “It would be like trying to go back in time, and we can’t do that for whatever reason.”

That Cooper makes it into the black hole is a feat in itself. Its incredibly strong gravitational field should have actually stretched him apart through a process called (no joke) spaghettification. “Your feet are getting pulled toward the black hole much more than your head is, and so you get stretched out,” Jackson says. “So it’s actually kind of a gruesome thing that would happen to you as you went near a black hole.


http://insidemovies.ew.com/2014/11/10/interstellar-science-black-holes-wormholes/

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

QueenOfHearts wrote:Teo, what are your answers to Bob'S questions?

Our government has lied to us very often on very important matters. It's no shame to distrust and question everything they are involved in. Guns are a thing that frightens corrupt criminal governments and children are something they know stirs emotions better than anything else. They are not above actually killing children to get their way.

Vikingwoman



To suggest that the White House faked killing 20 innocent children and all the people involved went along w/ it including the killer and his mother and family is just far beyond anyone w/ even a lick of sense. You've outdone yourself this time,Teo.

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

Vikingwoman wrote:To suggest that the White House faked killing 20 innocent children and all the people involved went along w/ it including the killer and his mother and family is just far beyond anyone w/ even a lick of sense. You've outdone yourself this time,Teo.

Then sleep peacefully you are either deluded or right. That is nothing to me. Fearful people fear the truth if it brings them discomfort and seek to silence those that bring it to them. Will you report me to the authorities to be psychologically adjusted ?...LOL

Sal

Sal

No, fearful people buy into conspiracy theories.

Thinking that they understand something that the vast majority does not gives fearful people a feeling of empowerment and control.

It's a coping mechanism.

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

Sal wrote:No, fearful people buy into conspiracy theories.

Thinking that they understand something that the vast majority does not gives fearful people a feeling of empowerment and control.

It's a coping mechanism.

I won't argue with that...but there have been many conspiracy theories that proved true...many. So question everything

“Question with boldness even the existence of God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear”?

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