JUST when you think it CAN'T POSSIBLY get worse, IT DOES! Front-Runner To Head VA Predicts Obamacare Will Lead To Single-Payer

JUST when you think it CAN'T POSSIBLY get worse, IT DOES! Front-Runner To Head VA Predicts Obamacare Will Lead To Single-Payer

JUST when you think it CAN'T POSSIBLY get worse, IT DOES!

Front-Runner To Head VA Predicts Obamacare Will Lead To Single-Payer

The first name to emerge as the favored choice to head the Department of Veterans Affairs previously predicted that Obamacare will eradicate employer-based insurance and push the U.S. towards a single-payer system “like they have in England”.

The Wall Street Journal reported that Dr. Delos “Toby” Cosgrove, who heads the Cleveland Clinic, is being heavily sought by the Obama administration to replace Gen. Eric Shinseki, who was forced out last week amid the VA wait list scandal.

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Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2014/06/03/front-runner-to-head-va-predicts-obamacare-will-lead-to-single-payer/#ixzz33iQZil6F

Our Socialist/Communist good friends here will celebrate this as their ultimate goal. To have long, long waiting lists, death panels and inferior care. SHARED MISERY, the goal of our Progressive friends!
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You really have a disconnect with the American people. Most Americans are very happy with the Affordable Care Act, and most are very happy with Medicare. Most would have no problem with Medicare for all with defined revenue sources. It is a simple budget priority......maybe we could get rid of the mortgage interest deduction, 1031 exchanges, capital gain exemptions on sale of the principal residence, and instead of enriching a handful of people with subsidy, we could expand health care to all Americans.......but the funniest thing about this thread......you needed the new head of the VA to tell you about the road map.......hillarious.

They don't care what they leave their children.

I suspect the last laugh will be on them in about 5 years. I wouldn't be surprised if some of them are having issues now but they would never admit it here. Be it medication problems, referrals.

right now the dems have bills on the table trying to close all private medical offices except primary care. They do not want specialist to be separated from a hospital setting. They fully intend to bottle neck the system and limit access to install their agenda on the unaware populace.

Hating poor people, unemployed people and minority Americans, Herr Markle would no doubt prefer a private healthcare system that only serves wealthy white fundamentalist Christians.

Having used the Canadian system, I can vouch for it as being far superior to what we had before Obamacare, and better than Obamacare too.

Yes, you have to wait for elective surgery, but not for emergency treatment or for treating disease. And you get regularly scheduled check-ups ... all free.

Reality.

Chrissy wrote:They don't care what they leave their children.

I suspect the last laugh will be on them in about 5 years. I wouldn't be surprised if some of them are having issues now but they would never admit it here. Be it medication problems, referrals.

right now the dems have bills on the table trying to close all private medical offices except primary care. They do not want specialist to be separated from a hospital setting. They fully intend to bottle neck the system and limit access to install their agenda on the unaware populace.

Please don't leave us in suspense ... just what is "their" agenda?

Wordslinger wrote:

Chrissy wrote:They don't care what they leave their children.

I suspect the last laugh will be on them in about 5 years. I wouldn't be surprised if some of them are having issues now but they would never admit it here. Be it medication problems, referrals.

right now the dems have bills on the table trying to close all private medical offices except primary care. They do not want specialist to be separated from a hospital setting. They fully intend to bottle neck the system and limit access to install their agenda on the unaware populace.

Please don't leave us in suspense ... just what is "their" agenda?

Youre little slow huh

GOV run healthcare....

A lot of people in the govt said this will lead to single payer. Why do you have a problem with a Doctor who oversees the Cleveland clinic and 45000 employee's heading the VA? Better than an ex general.

ppaca wrote:A lot of people in the govt said this will lead to single payer. Why do you have a problem with a Doctor who oversees the Cleveland clinic and 45000 employee's heading the VA? Better than an ex general.

Don't worry, there will be GOV incentives to hide the gory details.

Wordslinger wrote:Hating poor people, unemployed people and minority Americans, Herr Markle would no doubt prefer a private healthcare system that only serves wealthy white fundamentalist Christians.  

Having used the Canadian system, I can vouch for it as being far superior to what we had before Obamacare, and better than Obamacare too.

Yes, you have to wait for elective surgery, but not for emergency treatment or for treating disease.  And you get regularly scheduled check-ups ... all free.

Reality.  

Not as regular as here in America. NONE of it is "FREE" and why was it declared unconstitutional?

You know all this but you just can't admit it to yourself can you?

The 2012 Report will be out in several weeks.

Waiting Your Turn: Wait Times for Health Care in Canada, 2011 report
Type: Research Studies
Date Published: December 12, 2011

This edition of Waiting Your Turn indicates that waiting times for elective medical treatment have increased since last year. Specialist physicians surveyed across 12 specialties and 10 Canadian provinces report a total waiting time of 19.0 weeks between referral from a general practitioner and receipt of elective treatment. At 104 percent longer than it was in 1993, this is the longest total wait time recorded since the Fraser Institute began measuring wait times in Canada.

Wait times between 2010 and 2011 increased in both the segment between referral by a general practitioner to consultation with a specialist (rising to 9.5 weeks from 8.9 weeks in 2010), and the segment between a consultation with a specialist and receipt of treatment (rising to 9.5 weeks from 9.3 weeks in 2010). In fact, physicians themselves believe that Canadians wait nearly 3 weeks longer than what they consider is clinically “reasonable” for elective treatment after an appointment with a specialist. There is, however, a great deal of variation in the total waiting time faced by patients across the provinces. While Ontario reports the shortest total wait in 2011 (14.3 weeks); Prince Edward Island reports the longest at 43.9 weeks. The same is true of variations among specialties. Patients wait longest between a GP referral and plastic surgery (41.6 weeks), while those waiting for medical oncology begin treatment in 4.2 weeks.

It is estimated that, across all 10 provinces, in 2011 people are waiting for an estimated 941,321 procedures. This means that, assuming that each person waits for only one procedure, 2.8 percent of Canadians are waiting for treatment. Importantly, physicians report that only about 9.4 percent of their patients are on a waiting list because they requested a delay or postponement. The results of this year’s survey indicate that despite high levels of health expenditure and provincial wait time strategies, it is clear that patients in Canada are waiting too long to receive treatment

[In the United States that would equal 8.6 MILLION PATIENTS.]

Population of Canada 34.4 million

Population of U.S. 308 million

http://www.fraserinstitute.org/research-news/display.aspx?id=2147484001


PDF file of the entire study
http://www.fraserinstitute.org/uploadedFiles/fraser-ca/Content/research-news/research/publications/waiting-your-turn-2011.pdf

Why would Canada not have as good of a system as your illusion of the American system......they would just have to spend 4k more per patient......right.......

http://www-tc.pbs.org/prod-media/newshour/photos/2012/10/02/US_spends_much_more_on_health_than_what_might_be_expected_1_slideshow.jpg

Canada system isn't that great. and they only have 10% of the population as our country.

I know first hand about Canada's system. I also know from researching it. so I wouldn't use Canada's system as a example. matter of a fact there are no good examples of gov controlled healthcare in the world that are good. even parts of Europe are going backwards and trying to privatized more of it in places.

Switzerland has a system close to what Obama tried to do with ours, have both, unfortunately that's a very small country with lots of wealth to expend. Plans that work well in a micro environment don't always work well in a macro environment, great leaders know this.

Its this way. They are narrowing the services for people and access will be bottled necked on purpose. This is the plan, That is the bill on the table now.

it will be interesting to see how the next 6 months turn out because it appears that getting reimbursed through these exchanges is next to impossible.

I wonder how people are going to handle the next INCREASE in their premiums?