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26More on Bergdahl - Page 2 Empty Re: More on Bergdahl 6/3/2014, 5:22 pm

polecat

polecat

from the Stonekettle...



The staggering hypocrisy of this becomes immediately apparent when you realize that the very same folks who would grant an unconditional pardon to the traitorous Edward Snowden, a man who provably and self-admittedly gave aid and comfort to our adversaries during time of war and who continues to do so to this very day, these same people would proclaim Snowden a hero and leave Bergdahl to die unlamented in a Taliban cave – solely because they despise Barack Obama and for no other reason.

For the last two years, these very same people have been screaming for Obama’s impeachment, because the President ordered the targeted killing of Anwar al-Awlaki, an American who publicly renounced his citizenship, declared his allegiance to our sworn enemies, and who then actively took up arms against the United States and loudly encouraged others to do so as well. These same people would sacrifice untold numbers of American soldiers to capture a self-declared terrorist and give him a trial because they simply cannot and will not acknowledge that the president did the right thing, but these very same people would condemn Bergdahl and leave him to rot in Afghanistan without so much as an Article 32 hearing, solely to further their blind hatred of Barack Obama.

For the last eighteen months these very same people have been screaming for Obama’s impeachment. Impeachment? Hell, some of these silly sons of bitches, including sitting members of Congress and members of the military, have marched on the White House demanding the actual overthrow of the United States government and the imprisonment or death of the President, because four Americans died in Benghazi, Libya. They are outraged, outraged beyond logic, beyond prudence, beyond reason, because they believe Obama didn’t do absolutely everything possible up to and including an armed military invasion to save those men. But these same people, these very same people, would leave an American soldier to die at the hands of the Taliban and they refuse to cheer his safe return, solely because they hate Barack Obama beyond all rational bounds and they will not allow this administration any victory no matter how small – even when they themselves have been condemning Obama for leaving an American serviceman in the hands of our enemies.

For them, Bergdahl be he a captive or a free man, is nothing more just another way to attack the president and they can spin their hypocrisy in any fashion necessary.

They are angered by Bowe Bergdahl’s release, because they say we don’t negotiate with terrorists.

27More on Bergdahl - Page 2 Empty Re: More on Bergdahl 6/3/2014, 6:05 pm

Markle

Markle

othershoe1030 wrote:So far what we've been told is a tiny tip of a huge ice berg of a story. It makes no sense whatsoever at this point. I have not been following this very closely other than to hear the news that the solders father started studying the group that held his son and grew his beard as they do. He also learned their language. Perhaps he was thinking he'd have a chance to go negotiate with them for the return of his son?

On the face of it the trade is way out of balance...five senior guys from Gitmo for this seemingly unremarkable person? What is going on? How long will it take someone to ferret it out?

Given the past history of this administration, they will cover and divert as much as possible. Next, President Barack Hussein Obama will announce that he learned about Bergdahl's record on the news.

Of all people then, SUSAN RICE went on one of the Sunday shows saying Bergdahl served with honor and distinction. After her Benghazi SNAFU, she must have been promised something HUGE for when she leaves office.

28More on Bergdahl - Page 2 Empty Re: More on Bergdahl 6/3/2014, 6:22 pm

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

othershoe1030 wrote:So far what we've been told is a tiny tip of a huge ice berg of a story. It makes no sense whatsoever at this point. I have not been following this very closely other than to hear the news that the solders father started studying the group that held his son and grew his beard as they do. He also learned their language. Perhaps he was thinking he'd have a chance to go negotiate with them for the return of his son?

On the face of it the trade is way out of balance...five senior guys from Gitmo for this seemingly unremarkable person? What is going on? How long will it take someone to ferret it out?


Wow! I agree with you.

29More on Bergdahl - Page 2 Empty Re: More on Bergdahl 6/3/2014, 6:24 pm

Guest


Guest

polecat wrote:
PACEDOG#1 wrote:More on Bergdahl - Page 2 Bergdahl-3_2927905fhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/10868673/Bowe-Bergdahl-a-darker-story-behind-the-release-of-Americas-last-prisoner-of-war.html
 
DAD even looks like the Taliban in the pic.
 
1) He deserted his post in a time of war. (guilt by courtsmartial = death)
2) Having deserted, needless numbers of lives were put on the line to find him when he could have kept his butt on the base. Some people were even WIA and KIA chasing this loser down.
3) How did he not lose his citizenship after trying to join the French Foreign Legion? That in itself is a crime. He must have really SUCKED to not have been even given the chance to go to FFL bootcamp. Obviously, the French saw something our own recruiters did not. LOL.
4) Said he became disillusioned over how we were fighting war in Astan. Really? In the middle of your first tour? Hmmmm. Uh, hello, there is a process for becoming a conscientious objector. Finish out your tour and use the chain of command loser.
5) He is no better than John Walker Lindh (American Taliban).
6) Dad was communicating with Taliban. He even sent an incriminating tweet to Taliban leadership saying "All Afghan children's deaths would be paid back."
 
Get this kid back here, fatten him up and get him healthy, and then get the courtsmartial going and put him in prison for LIFE.

#1 Dad looks like Dick Dynasty Patriarch.

I'm sure you know a lot of info about male appendages.

30More on Bergdahl - Page 2 Empty Re: More on Bergdahl 6/3/2014, 6:26 pm

Markle

Markle

polecat wrote:from the Stonekettle...



The staggering hypocrisy of this becomes immediately apparent when you realize that the very same folks who would grant an unconditional pardon to the traitorous Edward Snowden, a man who provably and self-admittedly gave aid and comfort to our adversaries during time of war and who continues to do so to this very day, these same people would proclaim Snowden a hero and leave Bergdahl to die unlamented in a Taliban cave – solely because they despise Barack Obama and for no other reason.

For the last two years, these very same people have been screaming for Obama’s impeachment, because the President ordered the targeted killing of Anwar al-Awlaki, an American who publicly renounced his citizenship, declared his allegiance to our sworn enemies, and who then actively took up arms against the United States and loudly encouraged others to do so as well.  These same people would sacrifice untold numbers of American soldiers to capture a self-declared terrorist and give him a trial because they simply cannot and will not acknowledge that the president did the right thing, but these very same people would condemn Bergdahl and leave him to rot in Afghanistan without so much as an Article 32 hearing, solely to further their blind hatred of Barack Obama.

For the last eighteen months these very same people have been screaming for Obama’s impeachment. Impeachment? Hell, some of these silly sons of bitches, including sitting members of Congress and members of the military, have marched on the White House demanding the actual overthrow of the United States government and the imprisonment or death of the President, because four Americans died in Benghazi, Libya. They are outraged, outraged beyond logic, beyond prudence, beyond reason, because they believe Obama didn’t do absolutely everything possible up to and including an armed military invasion to save those men.  But these same people, these very same people, would leave an American soldier to die at the hands of the Taliban and they refuse to cheer his safe return, solely because they hate Barack Obama beyond all rational bounds and they will not allow this administration any victory no matter how small – even when they themselves have been condemning Obama for leaving an American serviceman in the hands of our enemies.  

For them, Bergdahl be he a captive or a free man, is nothing more just another way to attack the president and they can spin their hypocrisy in any fashion necessary.

They are angered by Bowe Bergdahl’s release, because they say we don’t negotiate with terrorists.

The Obama campaign released a stinging statement – calling Bush’s words “a false political attack” while stressing how committed he was to “our ally Israel.”

“It is sad that President Bush would use a speech to the Knesset on the 6Oth anniversary of Israel’s independence to launch a false political attack. It is time to turn the page on eight years of policies that have strengthened Iran and failed to secure America or our ally Israel. Instead of tough talk and no action, we need to do what Kennedy, Nixon and Reagan did and use all elements of American power — including tough, principled, and direct diplomacy – to pressure countries like Iran and Syria. George Bush knows that I have never supported engagement with terrorists, and the President’s extraordinary politicization of foreign policy and the politics of fear do nothing to secure the American people or our stalwart ally Israel.”

http://nicedeb.wordpress.com/2014/06/02/obama-in-2008-i-will-not-negotiate-with-terrorists-carney-in-2013-wh-will-consult-with-congress-on-gitmo-transfer/


President Barack Hussein Obama has also said we do not negotiate with terrorists nor will I ever use signing statements.

You really do not read much do you?

31More on Bergdahl - Page 2 Empty Re: More on Bergdahl 6/3/2014, 6:26 pm

Guest


Guest

polecat wrote:from the Stonekettle...



The staggering hypocrisy of this becomes immediately apparent when you realize that the very same folks who would grant an unconditional pardon to the traitorous Edward Snowden, a man who provably and self-admittedly gave aid and comfort to our adversaries during time of war and who continues to do so to this very day, these same people would proclaim Snowden a hero and leave Bergdahl to die unlamented in a Taliban cave – solely because they despise Barack Obama and for no other reason.

For the last two years, these very same people have been screaming for Obama’s impeachment, because the President ordered the targeted killing of Anwar al-Awlaki, an American who publicly renounced his citizenship, declared his allegiance to our sworn enemies, and who then actively took up arms against the United States and loudly encouraged others to do so as well.  These same people would sacrifice untold numbers of American soldiers to capture a self-declared terrorist and give him a trial because they simply cannot and will not acknowledge that the president did the right thing, but these very same people would condemn Bergdahl and leave him to rot in Afghanistan without so much as an Article 32 hearing, solely to further their blind hatred of Barack Obama.

For the last eighteen months these very same people have been screaming for Obama’s impeachment. Impeachment? Hell, some of these silly sons of bitches, including sitting members of Congress and members of the military, have marched on the White House demanding the actual overthrow of the United States government and the imprisonment or death of the President, because four Americans died in Benghazi, Libya. They are outraged, outraged beyond logic, beyond prudence, beyond reason, because they believe Obama didn’t do absolutely everything possible up to and including an armed military invasion to save those men.  But these same people, these very same people, would leave an American soldier to die at the hands of the Taliban and they refuse to cheer his safe return, solely because they hate Barack Obama beyond all rational bounds and they will not allow this administration any victory no matter how small – even when they themselves have been condemning Obama for leaving an American serviceman in the hands of our enemies.  

For them, Bergdahl be he a captive or a free man, is nothing more just another way to attack the president and they can spin their hypocrisy in any fashion necessary.

They are angered by Bowe Bergdahl’s release, because they say we don’t negotiate with terrorists.

No link to Stonekettle? Farce. You leftists can't spin it now as fast as Obama continues to step on his "inexperienced foreign policy crank." Admit it, you are at a loss for words and wish only that Goebbels were here to help you out in some form or fashion. It's a common ingredient in every post you fools make on this topic.

32More on Bergdahl - Page 2 Empty Re: More on Bergdahl 6/3/2014, 6:34 pm

Guest


Guest

polecat wrote:from the Stonekettle...



The staggering hypocrisy of this becomes immediately apparent when you realize that the very same folks who would grant an unconditional pardon to the traitorous Edward Snowden, a man who provably and self-admittedly gave aid and comfort to our adversaries during time of war and who continues to do so to this very day, these same people would proclaim Snowden a hero and leave Bergdahl to die unlamented in a Taliban cave – solely because they despise Barack Obama and for no other reason.

For the last two years, these very same people have been screaming for Obama’s impeachment, because the President ordered the targeted killing of Anwar al-Awlaki, an American who publicly renounced his citizenship, declared his allegiance to our sworn enemies, and who then actively took up arms against the United States and loudly encouraged others to do so as well.  These same people would sacrifice untold numbers of American soldiers to capture a self-declared terrorist and give him a trial because they simply cannot and will not acknowledge that the president did the right thing, but these very same people would condemn Bergdahl and leave him to rot in Afghanistan without so much as an Article 32 hearing, solely to further their blind hatred of Barack Obama.

For the last eighteen months these very same people have been screaming for Obama’s impeachment. Impeachment? Hell, some of these silly sons of bitches, including sitting members of Congress and members of the military, have marched on the White House demanding the actual overthrow of the United States government and the imprisonment or death of the President, because four Americans died in Benghazi, Libya. They are outraged, outraged beyond logic, beyond prudence, beyond reason, because they believe Obama didn’t do absolutely everything possible up to and including an armed military invasion to save those men.  But these same people, these very same people, would leave an American soldier to die at the hands of the Taliban and they refuse to cheer his safe return, solely because they hate Barack Obama beyond all rational bounds and they will not allow this administration any victory no matter how small – even when they themselves have been condemning Obama for leaving an American serviceman in the hands of our enemies.  

For them, Bergdahl be he a captive or a free man, is nothing more just another way to attack the president and they can spin their hypocrisy in any fashion necessary.

They are angered by Bowe Bergdahl’s release, because they say we don’t negotiate with terrorists.
 
1) Snowden has more on Obama than most people care to admit, especially you leftists.
 
2) Berghdahl walked the hell off from his FOB abandoning his fellow Americans and then collaborated with the enemy.
 
3) You are in full spin not knowing how to defend the indefensible now with the rest of the rats deserting the ship of the empty suit.
 
4) Obama has committed so many acts against the Constitution, including his not even following the law on the LAW he signed about the release of POWs without notification of CONGRESS.... you guys can't even keep up with the lies and acts of sin against this nation.
 
5) Berghdahl is a traitor plain and simple. In an effort to spin attention away from the VA scandal, this stunt was pulled. Now we have his fellow soldiers coming out and talking about how they were silenced to cover up the first real embarrassing event that happened on Obama's watch and was covered up. You guys are as treasonous as the left wing media and the actual perpetrators of these acts. Be ashamed because you are part of the problem.

The wheels are coming off this admin and fast. President Grant may be swept aside on the most corrupt admin ever once all these scandals are added up.

33More on Bergdahl - Page 2 Empty Re: More on Bergdahl 6/3/2014, 6:40 pm

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

PACEDOG#1 wrote:
1) Snowden has more on Obama than most people care to admit, especially you leftists.
 
2) Berghdahl walked the hell off from his FOB abandoning his fellow Americans and then collaborated with the enemy.
 
3) You are in full spin not knowing how to defend the indefensible now with the rest of the rats deserting the ship of the empty suit.
 
4) Obama has committed so many acts against the Constitution, including his not even following the law on the LAW he signed about the release of POWs without notification of CONGRESS.... you guys can't even keep up with the lies and acts of sin against this nation.
 
5) Berghdahl is a traitor plain and simple. In an effort to spin attention away from the VA scandal, this stunt was pulled. Now we have his fellow soldiers coming out and talking about how they were silenced to cover up the first real embarrassing event that happened on Obama's watch and was covered up. You guys are as treasonous as the left wing media and the actual perpetrators of these acts. Be ashamed because you are part of the problem.

The wheels are coming off this admin and fast. President Grant may be swept aside on the most corrupt admin ever once all these scandals are added up.

Please, is there a doctor in the house? PaceDog is in serious need of some of the ADHD medicine his ESE students must be taking. He needs a scrip A.S.A.P..... Please write him one post-haste...... Shocked

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34More on Bergdahl - Page 2 Empty Re: More on Bergdahl 6/3/2014, 6:42 pm

Guest


Guest

Can you imagine how bad he is at the game of risk? or even monopoly? Hell I bet even his candyland game sucks.

Would you trust this guy to make a huge personal decision for you?

35More on Bergdahl - Page 2 Empty Re: More on Bergdahl 6/3/2014, 7:03 pm

Guest


Guest

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:
PACEDOG#1 wrote:
1) Snowden has more on Obama than most people care to admit, especially you leftists.
 
2) Berghdahl walked the hell off from his FOB abandoning his fellow Americans and then collaborated with the enemy.
 
3) You are in full spin not knowing how to defend the indefensible now with the rest of the rats deserting the ship of the empty suit.
 
4) Obama has committed so many acts against the Constitution, including his not even following the law on the LAW he signed about the release of POWs without notification of CONGRESS.... you guys can't even keep up with the lies and acts of sin against this nation.
 
5) Berghdahl is a traitor plain and simple. In an effort to spin attention away from the VA scandal, this stunt was pulled. Now we have his fellow soldiers coming out and talking about how they were silenced to cover up the first real embarrassing event that happened on Obama's watch and was covered up. You guys are as treasonous as the left wing media and the actual perpetrators of these acts. Be ashamed because you are part of the problem.

The wheels are coming off this admin and fast. President Grant may be swept aside on the most corrupt admin ever once all these scandals are added up.

Please, is there a doctor in the house? PaceDog is in serious need of some of the ADHD medicine his ESE students must be taking. He needs a scrip A.S.A.P..... Please write him one post-haste...... Shocked

No, there's something wrong with you or anyone else who does not understand the seriousness of this.

Obama has effectively reloaded the Taliban with its leaders. Obama is a traitor to this country just like the bergdalh.

36More on Bergdahl - Page 2 Empty Re: More on Bergdahl 6/3/2014, 11:21 pm

othershoe1030

othershoe1030

Joanimaroni wrote:
othershoe1030 wrote:So far what we've been told is a tiny tip of a huge ice berg of a story. It makes no sense whatsoever at this point. I have not been following this very closely other than to hear the news that the solders father started studying the group that held his son and grew his beard as they do. He also learned their language. Perhaps he was thinking he'd have a chance to go negotiate with them for the return of his son?

On the face of it the trade is way out of balance...five senior guys from Gitmo for this seemingly unremarkable person? What is going on? How long will it take someone to ferret it out?


Wow! I agree with you.

I KNOW! This is a totally very strange event...the story about this walk-away soldier! I just really do not get it. Maybe some new piece of information will surface in the future but for now I am just confused. The stories just don't match up and the trade seems so out of proportion.

37More on Bergdahl - Page 2 Empty Re: More on Bergdahl 6/4/2014, 12:04 am

othershoe1030

othershoe1030

This is a link to an interview with Amy Goodman of Democracy Now, an independent news source that I would trust with this sort of story, which is why I went to their site. I wanted to see what they had to say about it. Draw your own conclusions. I also want to read what the interview with the Guardian looks like.

http://www.democracynow.org/2014/6/3/father_of_freed_us_soldier_nobody

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