Dreamers flowing over border thanks to slack immigration enforcement

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/05/17/us/us-sets-up-crisis-shelter-as-children-flow-across-border-alone.html?_r=0&referrer=

With his tongue ,now Obama has created a humanitarian crisis within our own country.

And most of them are doing it alone. What parent sends their kid across a dangerous international border rife with drug and human trafficking? That's child abuse.

The children are coming primarily from El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras, making the perilous journey north through Mexico to Texas without parents or close adult relatives. Last weekend alone, more than 1,000 unaccompanied youths were being held at overflowing border stations in South Texas, officials said.

The flow of child migrants has been building since 2011, when 4,059 unaccompanied youths were apprehended by border agents. Last year more than 21,000 minors were caught, and Border Patrol officials had said they were expecting more than 60,000 this year. But that projection has already been exceeded.

They are shutting them down at the border. Period. Border enforcement and deportations are the most successful in American history.....also, kids have been coming from south of Mexico on trains for decades and their have been numerous tv specials documenting the same.....nothing new, except we are catching them at a much more efficient border. Another success for the President.

2seaoat wrote:They are shutting them down at the border. Period. Border enforcement and deportations are the most successful in American history.....also, kids have been coming from south of Mexico on trains for decades and their have been numerous tv specials documenting the same.....nothing new, except we are catching them at a much more efficient border. Another success for the President.

Why do you continue with a blatantly false talkingpoint after you have been shown it's a false narrative?

Are you related to obama?

https://www.numbersusa.com/content/news/february-12-2013/how-obama-administration-inflates-deportation-statistics.html

Padding the Numbers: The Alien Transfer Exit Program

Since 2011,the Obama administration has counted removals from the Alien Transfer Exit Program (ATEP) as ICE deportations,which artificially inflates ICE removal numbers.

According to a source in a Border Patrol field office, “the only reason this group [in the ATEP] program is in detention at all is for the purpose of padding ICE’s year-end removal statistics.”

Created in 2008,ATEP is a program that moves Mexican nationals apprehended in one Border Patrol Sector to another Sector before removing them to Mexico. There are no penalties or bars attached when illegal immigrants are sent back via ATEP and they can simply attempt re-entry. As a result,illegal immigrants who are subject to ATEP can return to the U.S. numerous times only to be counted as removals each successive time they reenter illegally and are apprehended at the border.

From 2008 to 2011,apprehensions through ATEP were counted in the U.S. Border Patrol’s statistics,not ICE’s statistics. However,in 2011,the Obama administration started including ATEP apprehensions by CBP in ICE’s deportation statistics. In the first seven months of 2012,ICE reported 221,656 arrests (ICE apprehensions in the interior of the country),yet reported 334,249 removals (deportations). The 112,000 additional removals were from the ATEP (72,030) and an unknown source (40,000).

Thus,ICE removal statistics had over 112,000 deportations included that previously had never been counted in its deportation statistics.

In 2008,official ICE removals totaled 369,221;

in 2009,389,834;

in 2010,392,862;

in 2011,396,906;

and in 2012,409,849.

However,when ATEP removals are subtracted from ICE’s removals total,

the 2011 number drops from 396,906 to roughly 360,319,

and the 2012 number drops from 409,849 to 324,299.

Therefore,if the ATEP removal numbers are subtracted from ICE’s 2011 removal numbers,total removals are 2.5% below 2008 levels, 7.5% below 2009 levels,and 8.3% below 2010 levels.

If the ATEP removal numbers are subtracted from ICE’s 2012 removal numbers,total removals are 12% below 2008 levels,16.9% below 2009 levels,and 17.5% below 2010.

Year ICE Reported / Total / Actual Total (excluding ATEP Removals)

2008...................../ 369,221 / n/a

2009 ..................../ 389,843 / n/a

2010...................../ 392,862 / n/a

2011...................../ 396,906 / 360,319

2012...................../ 409,849 / 324,299

Padding the Numbers: The Mexican Interior Repatriation Program

From 2009 through 2011,the Obama Administration resumed a voluntary humanitarian interior repatriation program called the Mexican Interior Repatriation Program (MIRP).

First initiated in 2004, MIRP voluntarily returned Mexican nationals apprehended by the U.S. Border Patrol in the Yuma and Tucson sectors.

Since 2008,MIRP statistics have been included in ICE’s overall removal numbers. Without this program,the deportations statistics would be tallied by the U.S. Border Patrol instead of ICE.

Since 2004,more than 116,000 Mexican nationals have been returned under MIRP.

In 2009,MIRP returned 10,560 illegal Mexican nationals. MIRP accounted for 2.7 percent of ICE removals (389,834).

In 2010,MIRP returned a record 23,384 illegal Mexican nationals. Over 6,500 of those illegal Mexican nationals were included by running the program five weeks longer than it had previously run. MIRP accounted for over 6 percent of ICE removals in 2010 (392,862).

In 2011,MIRP returned 8,893 illegal Mexican immigrants. MIRP accounted for just over 2 percent of ICE removals in 2011 (396,906). When both ATEP and MIRP removals are subtracted from ICE’s published removal totals,the 2011 removal total drops from 396,906 to roughly 351,426 –4.9% below 2008 levels,10% below 2009 levels, and 11.5% below 2010 levels.

Year ICE Reported / Total / Actual Total (excluding ATEP and/or MIRP Removals)

2008 ..................../ 369,221/... n/a

2009 ..................../ 389,843 / ...379,274

2010...................../ 392,862 /....369,478

2011...................../ 396,906 /... 351,426

2012 ..................../ 409,849 / ....324,299

So I am the one with false narrative. So one of those kids get caught at the border and are sent back, and you argue the stats are slanted......you and T are still trying to distinguish the functions of the refrigerator and the toilet......I can see it now.....little Pk putting a turd popcycle in the freezer, and taking grandmas black eyed peas and putting them in the toilet.....Grandma to little Pk......honeybun......how are we going to feed those chinese five abreast if you flushed the black eyed peas, and we have ran out of Scope, so please go lightly on the turd popcycles.

Gawd you're dense... I'll let obama himself try to explain it to you... tho I doubt even that will work.

Here he is speaking to a group of hispanic reporters... of course in this case he is trying to downplay the talkingpoint:

“The statistics are actually a little deceptive because what we’ve been doing is,with the stronger border enforcement,we’ve been apprehending folks at the borders and sending them back. That is counted as a deportation,even though they may have only been held for a day or 48 hours,sent back –that’s counted as a deportation.”

The Washington Post Reveals the Fraud

In December 2010,the Washington Post revealed that U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) had included more than 19,000 illegal immigrants who had exited the country in the previous fiscal year in its deportation statistics for the current (2010) fiscal year.

On February 22,2010,ICE Detention and Removal Operations issued a memo stating that,despite record deportations of criminals,the overall number of removals was down. According to the memo,while ICE was on pace to achieve “the Agency goal of 150,000 criminal alien removals” for the year ending September 30th,total deportations were set to barely top 310,000, “well under the Agency’s goal of 400,000” and nearly 20 percent below the 2009 total of 387,000.

The memo also explained how ICE would inflate the number: increasing detention space to hold more illegal immigrants while they await deportation proceedings; sweeping prisons and jails to find more candidates for deportation and offering early release for those willing to go quickly; and a surge in efforts to catch illegal immigrants who lied on immigration or visa applications or reentered the U.S. after being deported.

The memo also encouraged field directors to “maximize” participation in the Mexican Interior Repatriation Program (MIRP),a bilaterally voluntary program that attempts to quickly return Mexican nationals found unlawfully in the Sonora Arizona desert region of the U.S. to their places of origin in the Mexican interior.

The program is run by ICE,the Mexican Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Mexican Ministry of the Interior. Under this program,aliens caught by U.S. Border Patrol agents are turned over to ICE to carry out the returns.

Since MIRP’s inception in 2004,the program had never started earlier than July 7th each year. In 2010,the first group returned to Mexico on June 1st. By starting in June,ICE tallied 6,527 returns that in the past would have been handled and counted by the U.S. Border Patrol.

In total,23,384 Mexicans between June and September of that year accepted flights back to Mexico City and then a bus ticket to their home town at a cost of almost $15 million. An ICE spokesman claimed the agency started the program early because of available funds and a timely agreement between the U.S. and Mexico.

According to the Washington Post,internal emails showed that when ICE officials realized in the final weeks of the fiscal year,which ended September 30th,that ICE’s numbers would fall short of the previous year’s mark,they quietly directed immigration officers to bypass immigration courts whenever possible and encourage eligible foreign nationals to agree to voluntarily return to their countries without a negative mark on their immigration record. This allowed hundreds of immigrants who typically would have gone before an immigration judge to contest deportation offenses such as drunk driving, domestic violence and misdemeanor assault to leave the country without a statutory civil or criminal bar for applying for legal residence or traveling to the U.S. in the future.

According to the emails,once ICE met its goals for 2010,it directed agents to stop offering voluntary returns and revert to business as usual. According to an October 1,2010 email obtained by the Washington Post,an acting ICE assistant director cheered field directors on to the finish line: “We are just 106 shy of 390,000. However,we still get to count closed cases through Monday,October 4th so… keep having your folks concentrate on closing those cases.”

Prior to the Obama administration,when an alien exited the country in a fiscal year,but their case remained open,that departure was counted in the year in which it took place,or not at all.

Starting in 2009,ICE stopped counting deportations for the fiscal year ending September 30th in the first few days of October. Any deportations that take place in one fiscal year but are confirmed after October 5th are added to the next fiscal year’s statistics. Based on the new accounting approach,ICE was able to 19,422 removals from 2009 in the 2010 statistics.

In 2010,373,440 other people were deported. If ICE had not included the 19,422 departures, removals would have fallen by almost 16,000 from the previous year and by about 20,000 in 2009. At a news conference on October 6,2010,ICE Director John Morton said that no unusual practices were used to break the previous year’s mark: “When the secretary tells you that the numbers are at an all-time high,that’s straight,on the merits,no cooking of the books. It’s what happened.” However, Chris Crane, President of the ICE Union, stated that offering voluntary return was not a common practice and that it was “breaking the rules to break the record.”

On October 5,2011,Secretary Napolitano announced that a “record” 195,000 convicted criminals had been removed in 2010. However, DHS’s Office of Immigration Statistics (OIS) reported that only 168,532 convicted criminal aliens were removed in 2010. Napolitano also announced that there were 392,862 aliens removed from the country in 2010, while OIS reported 387,242 removals. The primary reason for the difference is that Napolitano is using the numbers reported by ICE,which uses different methodology than the OIS whose numbers are arguably more accurate. OIS has used a consistent methodology to calculate immigration statistics,while ICE has changed its methodology for the sole reason of meeting numerical outputs. The only possible reason to reject the OIS numbers is to give the appearance that DHS is deporting illegals in record numbers. Although OIS does not keep track of paroles and deferments,its numbers are a more accurate reflection of this administration’s failure to enforce immigration laws. According to OIS statistics,the number of removals from 2009 has decreased by 7,923 and returns have decreased by 109,759.

The number of arrests made by DHS has decreased 66% from about 1.8 million in 1999 to about 600,000 in 2010. While prosecutions increased slightly in the years prior to 2005,the general trend has been downward for at least ten years.

23k out of almost 500k.....please go lightly on the turd popcycles.....you have all but admitted that the President has shut down the border to illegal immigration.....thank you for making my case. We agree he has shut the border down to illegal immigration, and with deportations we have a negative influx..........now go retrieve grandma's black eye peas.....those Chinese are a hungry bunch and they are coming five abreast.

Just wow... you have the same affliction as flatex... the facts and direct quotes laid right out in front of you... and you ignore.

Scary dumb.

It's sad that you cling to right-wing talking points while ignoring reality.

http://www.wehirealiens.com/

"The biggest incentive for illegal aliens to come to the United States is to find work. If there are no employers willing to hire the illegal aliens, then the flood of illegal aliens will subside.

So the purpose of this website is to expose "alleged" employers of illegal aliens. In this effort we need your help. First, if you know of a suspected employer of illegal aliens report them here.

Second, search or browse the "alleged" employers of illegal aliens and, if you are compelled by the evidence, email them telling them you will no longer patronize their business. In the same email, make sure they know that you will also tell everyone you know NOT to patronize their business. We've got pre-written emails to help you do this.

Finally, use our website to report these "alleged" employers to the proper authorities. Again, we've got emails already written that you can send off at the touch of a button..."

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I worked at a bank in Corpus Christi in the early '70's. Every Friday, a few truckloads of Hispanics would arrive at my drive-in window to cash their paychecks. For ID, they would have one dog-eared SS card. When I questioned my boss, I was told "just cash them". End of story. It's convenient for people who want cheap labor to employ illegals.

It is funny that PK will not admit that the President has done the best job at the border......way too funny. He just cannot accept the truth. Never in the last fifty years has illegal immigration been so utterly shut down than under the President.....and he tries to throw that lame stuff......damn he probably wore those cute white tennis shorts too.......with a pretty sweat band, and a set of cool shades......lob to the back court.

2seaoat wrote:It is funny that PK will not admit that the President has done the best job at the border......way too funny. He just cannot accept the truth. Never in the last fifty years has illegal immigration been so utterly shut down than under the President.....and he tries to throw that lame stuff......damn he probably wore those cute white tennis shorts too.......with a pretty sweat band, and a set of cool shades......lob to the back court.

“The statistics are actually a little deceptive because what we’ve been doing is,with the stronger border enforcement,we’ve been apprehending folks at the borders and sending them back. That is counted as a deportation,even though they may have only been held for a day or 48 hours,sent back –that’s counted as a deportation.” Obama partial truth... and you even ignore that.

There's really nothing else I can do for you... you choose to believe a narrative that is easily disproved... and even gets a disclaimer from obama when it's politically inconvenient. I'm not sure how that works in your head. Explain that.

2seaoat wrote:23k out of almost 500k.....please go lightly on the turd popcycles.....you have all but admitted that the President has shut down the border to illegal immigration.....thank you for making my case. We agree he has shut the border down to illegal immigration, and with deportations we have a negative influx..........now go retrieve grandma's black eye peas.....those Chinese are a hungry bunch and they are coming five abreast.

23k a year for how many years though and that's only what was reported...sheeesh you are clueless.

The border is finally working on stopping the flow of illegal immigration. A simple thank you President Obama will suffice.