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Krauthammer’s Take on Ukraine: “I Think Everybody, Is Shocked By the Weakness of Obama’s Statement”

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Wordslinger wrote:
PACEDOG#1 wrote:Liberals on here think they have a clue on geopolitics and are as ignorant as their hero Obama.

While Mr. Krauthammer would no doubt like Mr. Obama to issue a fatwa against Putin and Russia, with background applause by Pacedog and Herr Markle, one thing is certain: neither Krauthammer or any of his "let's bomb the shit out of all of them" buddies will do any of the fighting.

Nada. None. Zero.



Neither will you OLD man.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

PACEDOG#1 wrote:

Neither will you OLD man.

But there's a big difference between wordslinger and the chickenhawks.
He's not trying to start wars.

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

Bob wrote:
PACEDOG#1 wrote:

Neither will you OLD man.

But there's a big difference between wordslinger and the chickenhawks.
He's not trying to start wars.

I think Wordslinger is a veteran, and what PaceDog is insinuating is the opinions of veterans just don't count in his book if they don't swing toward's his ideological point of view. Senseless thinking......

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boards of FL

boards of FL

Markle wrote:Step up.  What did he say which is NOT true?


Is the concept of burden of proof foreign to you?


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Markle

boards of FL wrote:
Markle wrote:Step up.  What did he say which is NOT true?


Is the concept of burden of proof foreign to you?

You must be addressing that to all the far left Progressives here.

NOT ONE of them have been able to explain anything said by Dr. Krauthammer. ALL they could do was make childish personal attacks on virtually everyone in sight.

As for Wordslinger, he's the only one who proudly boasts of his pride in Socialism and mass murderers.

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

Charles Krauthammer (translation to English: "Cabbage Pounder") is a very conflicted individual. I mean, he went to medical school, became a psychologist instead of a medical doctor, and ascended from that to being a political advisor/analyst, first as a liberal under the Carter administration, and ultimately becoming a far-right wingnut neocon.

I know he is disabled, and I won't disparage his physical disability, but I think his head is messed up too..... Perhaps it was because of the terrible accident he suffered years ago....

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Markle

Markle

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:Charles Krauthammer (translation to English: "Cabbage Pounder") is a very conflicted individual. I mean, he went to medical school, became a psychologist instead of a medical doctor, and ascended from that to being a political advisor/analyst, first as a liberal under the Carter administration, and ultimately becoming a far-right wingnut neocon.

I know he is disabled, and I won't disparage his physical disability, but I think his head is messed up too..... Perhaps it was because of the terrible accident he suffered years ago....

What fun, a Progressive who can't refute what a brilliant individual says so you post a disparaging post about him, then say you wouldn't disparage his physical ability when that has nothing to do with the post.

TRY AGAIN, what did the good Doctor say which was not true?

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ZVUGKTUBM wrote:Obama is an empty suit on every topic at every level.

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Still defending your blood soaked champion of peace I see. It must be very comforting for you to know there's so much innocent blood for you to wash your hands with as he continues his crusade of peace. I'm sure he'll find someone to condemn to the sword (Should I say cruise missile or drone instead?) as he looks through his Witches Hammer to see where to strike next without being struck at first, in his holy quest for change, peace, and harmony...

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boards of FL

boards of FL

Markle wrote:
boards of FL wrote:
Markle wrote:Step up.  What did he say which is NOT true?


Is the concept of burden of proof foreign to you?

You must be addressing that to all the far left Progressives here.

NOT ONE of them have been able to explain anything said by Dr. Krauthammer.  ALL they could do was make childish personal attacks on virtually everyone in sight.

As for Wordslinger, he's the only one who proudly boasts of his pride in Socialism and mass murderers.


So that would be a "yes" then. We're done here.

Markle

Markle

boards of FL wrote:
Markle wrote:
boards of FL wrote:
Markle wrote:Step up.  What did he say which is NOT true?


Is the concept of burden of proof foreign to you?

You must be addressing that to all the far left Progressives here.

NOT ONE of them have been able to explain anything said by Dr. Krauthammer.  ALL they could do was make childish personal attacks on virtually everyone in sight.

As for Wordslinger, he's the only one who proudly boasts of his pride in Socialism and mass murderers.


So that would be a "yes" then.  We're done here.

Nice to see that you concede that there is nothing Dr. Krauthammer stated which you can show is wrong.

Keep up the good work! You're a terrific foil.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

It turns out that when George Bush addressed the TV media after Russia invaded Georgia, his statement was almost word for word the same as Obama's statement the other day -- the one Mr. Krauthammer claimed "everybody" thought was weak.


But when Bush made the same statement about Putin invading Georgia, Krauthammer thought it "was reasonable."

Like all the FOX news pundits, Krauthammer is two-faced.

Reality.

Markle

Markle

Wordslinger wrote:It turns out that when George Bush addressed the TV media after Russia invaded Georgia, his statement was almost word for word the same as Obama's statement the other day -- the one Mr. Krauthammer claimed "everybody" thought was weak.


But when Bush made the same statement about Putin invading Georgia, Krauthammer thought it "was reasonable."  

Like all the FOX news pundits, Krauthammer is two-faced.

Reality.

Please show us the links to the source of these two statements.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

Markle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:It turns out that when George Bush addressed the TV media after Russia invaded Georgia, his statement was almost word for word the same as Obama's statement the other day -- the one Mr. Krauthammer claimed "everybody" thought was weak.


But when Bush made the same statement about Putin invading Georgia, Krauthammer thought it "was reasonable."  

Like all the FOX news pundits, Krauthammer is two-faced.

Reality.

Please show us the links to the source of these two statements.  


March 4, 2014,  ERIC BOEHLERT

Fox News commentators have been rushing in to blame President Obama for the Russian military's excursion into Ukraine. It's because of Obama's "weakness" that Vladamir Putin has seized the military initiative, announced Sarah Palin.

The crisis proves Obama's guilty of misunderstanding the Russians and not being "interested in American national security affairs," according to John Bolton. Former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld told Fox viewers Obama "left a vacuum that Putin is filling," and Steve Doocy complained the president hasn't done "much" to solve the situation.

Also, Obama needs to get a "backbone" and he's "lost moral authority." All this while Fox has marveled over Putin's prowess as a true "leader," and swooned his supposed physical superiority over Obama.

Please note that in August 2008, during President Bush's final months in office, a strikingly similar scenario played out when Russian forces invaded the former Soviet state of Georgia. At the time, the Bush White House sounded an awful lot like today's Obama White House. From Bush spokeswoman Dana Perino, now a Fox host:

   "The United States supports Georgia's territorial integrity. We call for an immediate ceasefire. We urge all parties Georgians, south Ossetians, Russians to deescalate the tensions and to avoid conflict. We are work on mediation efforts and to secure a ceasefire, and we are urging the parties to restart their dialogue."

Yet unlike today, the Putin-led excursion in 2008 completely failed to spark the panicked rhetoric that's become Fox News' trademark since Russian troops crossed over into Ukraine last week. Notably absent from the 2008 Georgia coverage was relentless finger pointing and blaming the White House for the extreme actions of a foreign leader thousands of miles away. There was also none of the Putin cheerleading that we hear on Fox News today.

In fact, some of the Fox commentators currently stoking the flames of "crisis" were rather non-judgmental when Russian tanks moved into Georgia. "I don't think the Russians are reckless," Charles Krauthammer announced on August 8, 2008, as Russian fleets advanced into the Black Sea and Russian jets launched raids targeting government buildings in Georgia. "What they are doing here is reasserting control of this province. And when it's done, which will probably happen in a couple days, the firing will crease."

Three days later, Krauthammer insisted there was nothing for the United States to do as the crisis escalated: "Well, obviously it's beyond our control. The Russians are advancing. There is nothing that will stop them. We are not going to go to war over Georgia." Krauthammer's Fox colleague Jeff Birnbaum, agreed: "Because Georgia is not part of NATO, there's really no danger the United States or Europe will get in involved in what is really a civil war almost between--within this small part of Georgia."

Fox News' message to America then? Just relax. There's nothing the U.S. can do about Russia invading its sovereign neighbor and it will all be over soon.

Bill O'Reilly agreed with the laissez-faire analysis. "Even if President Bush wanted to help Georgia we simply don't have the ground forces to do it," said O'Reilly on August 11.
"And confronting the Russians in the air would lead to major hostilities that the USA cannot afford right now."

Even Fox's usually bellicose, right-wing think tank commentators demurred. "There's no easy answer; there's only tough choices," said the Heritage Foundation's Peter Brookes on August 12, 2008. "Russia is a tough nut to crack."

Indeed.

Recall that early in his presidency Bush famously announced he had peered into Putin's soul and spotted goodness in the Russian leader. The Georgia invasion belayed Bush's gut instincts, but few Fox commentators mocked the president's for his misreading of Putin. (Nor was there discussion that Bush's failed war with Iraq had created an opportunity for Russia's military expansion.)

"I don't think that Putin spit in the eye of the president," insisted Karl Rove in 2008.  And John Bolton, who this week accused Obama of not "paying attention" to Ukraine? Back in 2008, he gave Bush a pass when Russian troops poured into Georgia. "I think a lot of people missed it, not just the administration." Bolton said on Fox.

Whereas the current Ukraine conflict is all about Obama on Fox News (i.e. Putin: leader; Obama: weak), Bush was portrayed as a minor figure when Russia waged war in Georgia six years ago.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Markle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:It turns out that when George Bush addressed the TV media after Russia invaded Georgia, his statement was almost word for word the same as Obama's statement the other day -- the one Mr. Krauthammer claimed "everybody" thought was weak.


But when Bush made the same statement about Putin invading Georgia, Krauthammer thought it "was reasonable."  

Like all the FOX news pundits, Krauthammer is two-faced.

Reality.

Please show us the links to the source of these two statements.  


No link. It was Lawrence O'Donnell on his show last night. He showed line by line intercut tapes of Bush and then Obama making identical statements -- one in reaction to the Russian invasion of Georgia, the other, the Russian actions in the Ukraine.

They were, literally almost identical.

Then O'Donnell showed a tape of your idol in full agreement with Bush's statement.


Like I said, Krauthammer is nothing but a republican hack pretending to be a journalist. LOL

Of course, you're smart enough to use your computer to track down Krauthammer's statement in support of Bush's position. Right?

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

Wordslinger wrote:

Of course, you're smart enough to use your computer to track down Krauthammer's statement in support of Bush's position.  Right?  

He shouldn't even have to do that. I just provided some Krauthammer quotes in the post prior to yours.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Bob wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:

Of course, you're smart enough to use your computer to track down Krauthammer's statement in support of Bush's position.  Right?  

He shouldn't even have to do that.  I just provided some Krauthammer quotes in the post prior to yours.

thanks Bob! Let's see how Markle responds ...

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Wordslinger wrote:
Bob wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:

Of course, you're smart enough to use your computer to track down Krauthammer's statement in support of Bush's position.  Right?  

He shouldn't even have to do that.  I just provided some Krauthammer quotes in the post prior to yours.

thanks Bob!  Let's see how Markle responds ...


Bob: Nothin' but silence. Maybe Markle is busy tearing up his Krauthammer portrait ...

Markle

Markle

I know of no one who has suggested the use of our military force in the Ukraine.

Georgia went forward with an invasion of South Ossetia. At the same time they attacked and killed Russian peacekeepers in South Ossetia.

Totally different circumstances. The Ukraine did nothing to provoke the occupation by Russia.

Markle

Markle

Wordslinger wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
Bob wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:

Of course, you're smart enough to use your computer to track down Krauthammer's statement in support of Bush's position.  Right?  

He shouldn't even have to do that.  I just provided some Krauthammer quotes in the post prior to yours.

thanks Bob!  Let's see how Markle responds ...


Bob:  Nothin' but silence.  Maybe Markle is busy tearing up his Krauthammer portrait ...

Unlike you Wordslinger, I still work for a living. You and the other Progressives here are merely amusement.

2seaoat



That was a pretty good butt kicking.

Markle

Markle

2seaoat wrote:That was a pretty good butt kicking.

Thank you but that was not my intent.

I like having Wordslinger around.  He vividly demonstrates why things are going so wrong in America with his kind trying to influence our direction.  Without him, who would be here ridiculing and denigrating the greatest nation the world has ever seen?

We need people like Wordslinger to show who Progressives are without all the smoke and mirrors.


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