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A Look at Post Racial Tennessee

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1A Look at Post Racial Tennessee Empty A Look at Post Racial Tennessee 2/21/2014, 3:41 pm

Sal

Sal

Wow ...

just, wow ....


The state of Tennessee has fired a veteran investigator because officials believed that he attempted to use violent stories about how his relatives participated in a lynching to intimidate African-Americans who were trying to file claims against emergency responders.

WTVF reported that William Sewell, a medical service investigator who had been with the state for more than 40 years, told the graphic story to Shun Mullins last summer.

Mullins had filed a complaint claiming that his mother had died when the Algood’s deputy fire chief refused to perform CPR because she was black. The complaint stated that the fire chief covered it up by falsifying medical reports.

Sewell had started the meeting by asking Mullins if he had ever been to prison.

“His very first question was, ‘Mr. Mullins have you ever been to the penitentiary?” Mullins recalled. “That was more than insulting to me.”

Before concluding the meeting, Sewell decided to tell a shocking personal story about his family’s history with racism.

“Mr. Sewell goes into a story about a hanging, that he had been told, about the hanging of a black man,” Mullins explained.

Nashville NAACP member Sheryl Allen and an acquaintance, Judy Mainord, were also present in the room. Mullins, Allen and Mainord all remembered the story the same way in affidavits.

Sewell said that a black man had been lynched in Baxter, Mullins’ hometown.

“They hung him, and they started carving his skin out of his back,” Allen said. “It was like he got excited telling this story.”

“They lowered the body, and all the white men standing around took turns removing the skin from the black man’s back,” Mainord recalled Sewell saying.

In conclusion, Sewell said that he still owned a “strap” of the black man’s skin that had been given to him by his grandfather.

“They made a strap out of his skin, and they used that strap as a knife sharpener,” Allen remarked.

Mainord pointed out that the skin “was like a trophy to him, and that concerns me.”

“It was my impression he still had it at his house,” Mullins noted. “The way he enjoyed telling the story, I thought perhaps he was still using it.”

The Tennessee Department of Health determined that Sewell’s question about prison and the lynching story could have been a “form of intimidation” towards Mullins, according to an internal investigation obtained by WTVF. The report concluded that Sewell may have known the fire chief because of his close ties to other officials in Algood.

And if his plan was to intimidate Mullins, it worked.

“By all means, I felt threatened,” Mullins told WTVF.

For his part, Sewell insisted to the station that he was just trying to convince Mullins and the others in the meeting that he understood what racism was like.

“If they chose to conclude that was an intimidating comment, I’m sorry,” he opined. “It was a gruesome story. I got caught up in the moment trying to convince these people that I understood, and I just went too far.”

Sewell admitted that he had gotten the “back strap” from his grandfather, who was once the mayor of Baxter, but he said it was in “somebody’s landfill” now.

“I went downstairs in my storage, I went through entire boxes, but that strap is gone,” he said.

WTFV confirmed that a black man’s body was mutilated during a lynching in Baxter in 1896.

Even after the death of Mullins’ mother and the intimidation that he suffered, Sewell argued that he was the true victim.

“I am the victim because I made a mistake,” Sewell observed.

The Department of Health has assigned a new investigator to look at Mullins’ original complaint.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/02/20/tenn-official-threatened-blacks-with-skin-trophy-he-saved-from-1896-lynching/

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

I don't believe that's an uncommon isolated incident, Sal. It was a sick fucking society which probably produced many examples of similiar atrocities.

It was so sick that it had less regard for human beings than it did dogs because I doubt even dogs they didn't like were mutilated like that.



TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

This is what happens when you denigrate any group , old , fat , short, ugly, racial, religious, ethnic...etc..It makes it easy to separate and target them as different and less than adequately human.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

After it came to HBO,  I'm finally getting to see the movie "42".
I watched part of it yesterday and will finish it today.

That one scene I saw yesterday is something else.  The one where the Deland Florida sheriff runs onto the field during a major league spring training exhibition game and orders Jackie Robinson off the field saying "we don't allow no niggers to play baseball with whites in Deland".  That was in 1946 (only three years before I was born). And after seeing the scene I researched it and that did happen.

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

Yeah liberals get all fake ruffled over things like this but turn a blind eye to the mass killing of millions of black babies that they have denigrated to nothing more than a clump of cells when in all reality they are the well spring of life on earth...pretty fouled logic ...

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Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

TEOTWAWKI wrote:Yeah liberals get all fake ruffled over things like this but turn a blind eye to the mass killing of millions of black babies that they have denigrated to nothing more than a clump of cells when in all reality they are the well spring of life on earth...pretty fouled logic ...


I don't know about the liberal vs conservative stuff,  but if we have to have a label for everything then you can label me a liberal on this one too.
I don't have any trouble comprehending that a fully grown adult is a human being but the jury is still out for me on how to deal with the whole fetus thing.

I've been torn on that ever since two things occurred to me.

Let's say you "conservatives" have finally gotten your way and all abortion is now murder.
And let's say your teenage niece is raped by some psycho maggot home invader.
And your pregnant niece does not want to give birth to a psycho maggot home invader's baby as a result of her being raped by him.
So,  a long time family physician who is a friend agrees to do the illegal abortion.

I don't know if I would approve of prosecuting both the teenage niece and the doctor for murder.  Because if all abortion is murder then that's what it would be.  Like you conservatives yourselves say "it doesn't matter what the circumstances are,  a fetus is a human being and it's murdering a human being".

And then there's that other scenario.  To make ends meet,  your newly married pregnant daughter is clerking in a convenience store.  And a psycho maggot armed robber comes in to rob the place.   In a scuffle he fires his gun and shoots your daughter in the stomach.  Your daughter survives but her fetus doesn't.
Would I want to prosecute the psycho maggot armed robber for murder?
You're goddam right I would.

So,  as I said,  I'm torn on that one.  But not the scenario Sal's link outlined.  That one I have no problem reaching a conclusion about.

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

Bob wrote:
TEOTWAWKI wrote:Yeah liberals get all fake ruffled over things like this but turn a blind eye to the mass killing of millions of black babies that they have denigrated to nothing more than a clump of cells when in all reality they are the well spring of life on earth...pretty fouled logic ...


I don't know about the liberal vs conservative stuff,  but if we have to have a label for everything then you can label me a liberal on this one too.
I don't have any trouble comprehending that a fully grown adult is a human being but the jury is still out for me on how to deal with the whole fetus thing.

I've been torn on that ever since two things occurred to me.

Let's say you "conservatives" have finally gotten your way and all abortion is now murder.
And let's say your teenage niece is raped by some psycho maggot home invader.
And your pregnant niece does not want to give birth to a psycho maggot home invader's baby as a result of her being raped by him.
So,  a long time family physician who is a friend agrees to do the illegal abortion.

I don't know if I would approve of prosecuting both the teenage niece and the doctor for murder.  Because if all abortion is murder then that's what it would be.  Like you conservatives yourselves say "it doesn't matter what the circumstances are,  a fetus is a human being and it's murdering a human being".

And then there's that other scenario.  To make ends meet,  your pregnant daughter is clerking in a convenience store.  And a psycho maggot armed robber comes in to rob the place.   In a scuffle he fires his gun and shoots your niece in the stomach.  Your niece survives and her fetus doesn't.
Would I want to prosecute the psycho maggot armed robber for murder?
You're goddam right I would.

So,  as I said,  I'm torn on that one.  But not the scenario Sal's link outlined.  That one I have no problem reaching a conclusion about.

It's pretty simple logic Bob. The baby from the rape committed no crime and is half the product of the mother..so is innocent ..yes she may have to spend 9 months carrying the child in order to either keep it or adopt it away but if you are hit by a drunk driver you may have to spend 2 years relearning to walk...

2seaoat



Racism is alive and well and the fear of peer pressure often stands in the way of progress. In 42 it started when little Eddie Stanky took on the Philly manager. Stanky was not a big man. He was not some gifted athlete, but always gave 110% and always found a way to get on base. He was one of the toughest men I ever knew and served as the Chicago White Sox manager and his tenacity and moral courage had as much to do with change as all the politcs of a generation. Pee Wee Reese standing in the Reds stadium with his arm around Jackie took courage. Each day we each see people who are afraid to stand up to injustice. The stature of the man has little to do with the size of the heart. Racism can and will be defeated by simple courage.

Today it is the Oligarchy who is stealing America which manipulates racism to make further gains and damn America and its people to less. The courage will come from those people who quietly say enough.....this just is not right.....we can do better for ourselves and our communities. There are plenty of Eddie Stankys out there, and they will carry the day.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

TEOTWAWKI wrote:

It's pretty simple logic Bob...

she may have to spend 9 months carrying the child in order to either keep it or adopt it away

I think we have a basic disagreement about how simple it is, teo.
And that's because I realize it's a lot easier for me to say it's simple than it is for the young woman who actually would experience it. I won't ever have to be in her shoes. And for that reason I have to try to empathize with her and not male preachers and commentators.

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

Bob wrote:
TEOTWAWKI wrote:

It's pretty simple logic Bob...

she may have to spend 9 months carrying the child in order to either keep it or adopt it away

I think we have a basic disagreement about how simple it is,  teo.
And that's because I realize it's a lot easier for me to say it's simple than it is for the young woman who actually would experience it.   I won't ever have to be in her shoes.  And for that reason I have to try to empathize with her and not male preachers and commentators.

Yes and I agree with that bit of hesitance BUT the vast vast majority are not about rape it's just careless impregnation.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

I will say this. I don't think any father who would be in favor of the government and it's laws forcing his daughter to give birth to a baby under those circumstances, would ever be what I think of as a real "conservative".
A real conservative is definitely not in favor of government being so out of control that it dictates something like that from it's safe little ivory tower.
I would call that "liberal" and "statist" and "socialist" as hell.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

TEOTWAWKI wrote:

Yes and I agree with that bit of hesitance BUT the vast vast majority are not about rape it's just careless impregnation.

Yes but first you said it's all just a simple thing.  that abortion is murder.
Now you're backtracking.  And once you backtrack on this,  it's harder to convince me of that thing about it being murder.  It either is or it isn't.  It can't be murder sometimes and not murder other times. The fetus is either always a human life with human rights or it's not one.

So until I'm actually convinced that it's murder,  I don't want no goddamn government dictationg laws which say it's murder.

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

Bob wrote:
TEOTWAWKI wrote:

Yes and I agree with that bit of hesitance BUT the vast vast majority are not about rape it's just careless impregnation.

Yes but first you said it's all just a simple thing.  that abortion is murder.
Now you're backtracking.  And once you backtrack on this,  it's harder to convince me of that thing about it being murder.  It either is or it isn't.  It can't be murder sometimes and not murder other times.  The fetus is either always a human life with human rights or it's not one.

So until I'm actually convinced that it's murder,  I don't want no goddamn government dictationg laws which say it's murder.

No I said I understand your hesitance but I still believe the child is innocent of wrong doing.

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boards of FL

boards of FL

TEOTWAWKI wrote:It's pretty simple logic Bob. The baby from the rape committed no crime and is half the product of the mother..so is innocent ..yes she may have to spend 9 months carrying the child in order to either keep it or adopt it away but if you are hit by a drunk driver you may have to spend 2 years relearning to walk...


On having to go to the "Politics" section to view his political threads...."SOCIALISM! THE ADMIN IS A DAMNED NAZI!!! THIS PLACE IS TURNING IN TO NORTH KOREA!!!"

On getting raped and impregnated...."Well you should be required to carry that baby to term. I know it sucks, but what can I say."


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TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

On top of that Bob why should I be forced to pay for something I oppose ?

"There is no virtue in compulsory government charity, and there is no virtue in advocating it. A politician who portrays himself as “caring” and “sensitive” because he wants to expand the government’s charitable programs is merely saying that he’s willing to try to do good with other people’s money. Well, who isn’t? And a voter who takes pride in supporting such programs is telling us that he’ll do good with his own money – if a gun is held to his head." — P.J. O’Rourke

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

Teo,  you and I share a lot of the same ideas.  But there are some that we will likely never see eye to eye on.

One is a fetus having the same status as a human out of the womb.
And the other being that homosexuality is a sin outlawed by whatever created all of existence.

Maybe the "controlled demoliton" too.  lol

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

boards of FL wrote:
TEOTWAWKI wrote:It's pretty simple logic Bob. The baby from the rape committed no crime and is half the product of the mother..so is innocent ..yes she may have to spend 9 months carrying the child in order to either keep it or adopt it away but if you are hit by a drunk driver you may have to spend 2 years relearning to walk...


On having to go to the "Politics" section to view his political threads...."SOCIALISM! THE ADMIN IS A DAMNED NAZI!!! THIS PLACE IS TURNING IN TO NORTH KOREA!!!"

On getting raped and impregnated...."Well you should be required to carry that baby to term. I know it sucks, but what can I say."

Well if you are mugged shot or stabbed that also takes time to heal. It's one of the little costs of living with crime.

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

Bob wrote:Teo,  you and I share a lot of the same ideas.  But there are some that we will likely never see eye to eye on.

One is a fetus having the same status as a human out of the womb.
And the other being that homosexuality is a sin outlawed by whatever created all of existence.

Maybe the "controlled demoliton" too.  lol
You are contradictory, you want a fair deal and voice for homosexuals and yet deny the same to the unborn , where's the logic ?
As far as god goes he takes care of his own work. Like incest they usually die out from genetic faults and homosexuality is usually a sentence to illness and suffering...nature or god or whatever doesn't support it..not my fault. Oh yeah cannibals don't fare so well either.

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Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

TEOTWAWKI wrote:On top of that Bob why should I be forced to pay for something I oppose ?

   "There is no virtue in compulsory government charity, and there is no virtue in advocating it. A politician who portrays himself as “caring” and “sensitive” because he wants to expand the government’s charitable programs is merely saying that he’s willing to try to do good with other people’s money. Well, who isn’t? And a voter who takes pride in supporting such programs is telling us that he’ll do good with his own money – if a gun is held to his head." — P.J. O’Rourke

Now you've got me on that one. Because I can understand where you're coming from.
You don't want to be forced to pay for that, anymore than I want to have my taxes forced to pay for all the government services received by all those tax-exempt churches you and others go to.

So I would be willing to accept a compromise on that. I'll agree to no government financed abortions if you agree to the churches paying taxes like my business did.
Is it a deal. lol


TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

Bob wrote:
TEOTWAWKI wrote:On top of that Bob why should I be forced to pay for something I oppose ?

   "There is no virtue in compulsory government charity, and there is no virtue in advocating it. A politician who portrays himself as “caring” and “sensitive” because he wants to expand the government’s charitable programs is merely saying that he’s willing to try to do good with other people’s money. Well, who isn’t? And a voter who takes pride in supporting such programs is telling us that he’ll do good with his own money – if a gun is held to his head." — P.J. O’Rourke

Now you've got me on that one.  Because I can understand where you're coming from.  
You don't want to be forced to pay for that,  anymore than I want to have my taxes forced to pay for all the government services received by all those tax-exempt churches you and others go to.

So I would be willing to accept a compromise on that.  I'll agree to no government financed abortions if you agree to the churches paying taxes like my business did.
Is it a deal.  lol



Oh hell yeah churches should pay taxes and then maybe the preachers could preach against liberalism from the pulpit like they are supposed to instead of being threatened with the loss of their 501c3 status by the IRS.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

By the way.  It's Friday.  And that means "Freedom Friday" at 4:06 PM.
Brother Carl completely unplugged.
Last week he had the chief investigator for Sheriff Arpaio on.  He's on about every other week.  And for weeks now,  Sheriff Arpaio's right-hand man and Brother Carl have been telling us "We've now proven beyond any doubt that the birth certificate is a fraud but that's no big deal.  In the process of investigating it,  we have uncovered crimes that make the birth certificate thing look like a misdemeanor."
They say they're a "month or two" from revealing it.

Freedom Friday.  4:06 PM.  WEBY 1330 AM (heard anywhere in northwest florida and south alabama)

Markle

Markle

Bob wrote:After it came to HBO,  I'm finally getting to see the movie "42".
I watched part of it yesterday and will finish it today.

That one scene I saw yesterday is something else.  The one where the Deland Florida sheriff runs onto the field during a major league spring training exhibition game and orders Jackie Robinson off the field saying "we don't allow no niggers to play baseball with whites in Deland".  That was in 1946 (only three years before I was born).  And after seeing the scene I researched it and that did happen.

Yes, blacks were trying to overcome laws written by Democrats.

How many generations ago was that incident in 1946?

Integration in America would have come about much sooner had GOVERNMENT not stepped in and separated the races and nationalities.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

Or you can click on "listen now" and hear it from the web...

http://www.1330weby.com/index.php/listen-live

The first half hour is always the best though. After that Brother Carl interviews his "correspondents". And that's an acquired taste. After you get a feel for the characters it's still pretty entertaining though.
Notice everybody connected with the show (specifically the call screener) Carl refers to as "world famous".
And how Carl says every idea he's come up with "has gone viral".
And how he's known by celebrities and world leaders. And how "the White House is always listening to the show".
lol

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

Markle wrote:
Yes, blacks were trying to overcome laws written by Democrats.

How many generations ago was that incident in 1946?

Integration in America would have come about much sooner had GOVERNMENT not stepped in and separated the races and nationalities.

That's three different points.

1.  why address that to me?  I don't like democrats any more than republicans.  lol

2.  Lessee.  That would be about 70 years.  And generations change about every 20 years.  So that would be 3 1/2 generations.  

3.  How did the government "separate the races"? I thought government mandated integration put the races together. That's what happened at Pensacola High.

Markle

Markle

Bob wrote:I will say this.  I don't think any father who would be in favor of the government and it's laws forcing his daughter to give birth to a baby under those circumstances,  would ever be what I think of as a real "conservative".
A real conservative is definitely not in favor of government being so out of control that it dictates something like that from it's safe little ivory tower.
I would call that "liberal" and "statist" and "socialist" as hell.  


If there was a FATHER and a MOTHER in the picture, chances are it would never have happened in the first place.

In the Progressive world, who speaks for the infant?

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