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TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

Dot wrote:
TEOTWAWKI wrote:I have spent time in missions on both ends receiving and dishing out...I liked dishing out much better.

most men do.

I do understand when you talk about homeless people it's from your own experience. I have had some horrid things happen also. People that are desperate sometimes fool you to your face but their fingers are lifting your wallet. That is in a way to be expected. I had a sis in law that adopted a child from over in one of them Russian countries before they stopped it. For the first few months the kid was stashing food all over the house . Now she is a budding ballerina and beautiful. She just needed to learn to trust that she would be fed again tomorrow and didn't have to hide food just in case..

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TEOTWAWKI wrote:
Dot wrote:
TEOTWAWKI wrote:I have spent time in missions on both ends receiving and dishing out...I liked dishing out much better.

most men do.

I do understand when you talk about homeless people it's from your own experience. I have had some horrid things happen also. People that are desperate sometimes fool you to your face but their fingers are lifting your wallet. That is in a way to be expected. I had a sis in law that adopted a child from over in one of them Russian countries before they stopped it. For the first few months the kid was stashing food all over the house . Now she is a budding ballerina and beautiful. She just needed to learn to trust that she would be fed again tomorrow and didn't have to hide food just in case..

poor analogy.

why don't we cut the shit here since this whole thing has brought a hell fire bunch of shit on.

other than serving dishes of food in a safe environment, what is your personal experience with homeless people? have you ever taken a complete stranger into your home off the street?

and even so, the experience is different for a man as compared to a woman with these people.

would you be so quick to condemn a person had you been ass raped by a homeless person or had you been hauled off with a knife around your neck and robbed?

Do you think it is very possible that if you were a woman who had gone through that, you might not be as naïve and not want to be surrounded by homeless people?

How many homeless women and children do you see on the streets? not many I can assure you. there are hundreds of programs for them.

I really think you need to go face to face with these people, talk to them. most likely you will be safe because your a big strong man. but the majority of these people are not just your down on there luck saps. Theres a serious reason why they are there, and I am not equipped to deal with it. so good luck.

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

I can honestly say I have picked people up along the road that were cripple, smelly, dirty and sickly . Taken them for a meal and helped them financially or gotten them to a shelter. I have also delivered food to the poor often. This isn't about a comparison of what we have done it's about the perception of the poor. I give money to beggars and if they buy booze and drive a better car than me then that is their problem. I was told to help when I could. I would rather help 10 that didn't deserve it than miss one that did.

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TEOTWAWKI wrote: I can honestly say I have picked people up along the road that were cripple, smelly, dirty and sickly . Taken them for a meal and helped them financially or gotten them to a shelter. I have also delivered food to the poor often. This isn't about a comparison of what we have done it's about the perception of the poor. I give money to beggars and if they buy booze and drive a better car than me then that is their problem. I was told to help when I could. I would rather help 10 that didn't deserve it than miss one that did.

good for you. I commend you. when you get fucked in the ass by one of em and continue to do the same, then I will say you are a saint.

until then, don't criticize me for not wanting to participate in that endeavor anymore. Ive paid my dues for that challenge. Now I prefer to give to st jude and help breast cancer victims.

im not in a contest with you. you made the mistake of trying to act like I am not a good person because of my stance on helping the homeless. now you know why, not that you seem to care. perhaps you think I should still go pick up a few homeless men and bring them home to care for? maybe a homeless couple?

maybe you think all omen should just leave their back doors open for any homeless man to wonder in? after all, maybe 9 of those poor homeless men are good, only one will be bad. cant be too much trouble right?

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

No I never let strangers stay in the house with my wife and kids. I didn't say you should and risk getting raped. That would be far and away too much to ask. I have had homeless stay with me after I became single. I helped them get n to some of those programs you spoke of. Chrissy you read a lot into what I said. I know for a fact you take care of your family and that in itself deserves a lot of credit and consideration...Charity first begins at home with ones family. I think you are a very good person. Those Bible verses should apply in degrees to everyone...we all can do more. Don't let them make you guilty where there is no reason to be..It really is between you and your God and no one else.

Sal

Sal

You are a good man T, and I salute your efforts.

I too volunteer regularly helping the homeless, although I would not let anyone near my family who I don't know and trust intimately.

Keep up the good works.

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TEOTWAWKI wrote:No I never let strangers stay in the house with my wife and kids. I didn't say you should and risk getting raped. That would be far and away too much to ask. I have had homeless stay with me after I became single. I helped them get n to some of those programs you spoke of. Chrissy you read a lot into what I said. I know for a fact you take care of your family and that in itself deserves a lot of credit and consideration...Charity first begins at home with ones family. I think you are a very good person. Those Bible verses should apply in degrees to everyone...we all can do more. Don't let them make you guilty where there is no reason to be..It really is between you and your God and no one else.

I don't have any guilt. I have paid my dues and done the right thing. God knows me. You don't, these people here don't.

You and others went after me and thought you could pass a judgment against me because of my stance.

its unfortunate that sometimes we don't expect a answer to something to come in such a form, but it does. and it counts with reason.

Im perfectly willing to let Pensacola be full of all the vagrants. You guys can become the nations vagrant city of preference.  Smile I will watch from here and pray you do a good job.

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TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

Sal wrote:You are a good man T, and I salute your efforts.

I too volunteer regularly helping the homeless, although I would not let anyone near my family who I don't know and trust intimately.

Keep up the good works.

It feels weird taking about it. It makes me feel like I am bragging and when I think of all the ones I have passed up or passed by it makes me feel guilt and like I should never have started yapping about it....there are a lot of people need help and we all have fears and limits.

Sal

Sal

TEOTWAWKI wrote:
Sal wrote:You are a good man T, and I salute your efforts.

I too volunteer regularly helping the homeless, although I would not let anyone near my family who I don't know and trust intimately.

Keep up the good works.

It feels weird taking about it. It makes me feel like I am bragging and when I think of all the ones I have passed up or passed by it makes me feel guilt and like I should never have started yapping about it....there are a lot of people need help and we all have fears and limits.

Don't feel weird.

Your words may inspire others.

And, gawd knows, we can use all the help we can get.

I volunteer at Metropolitan Ministries and at Christmas time you can hardly find a spot.

Any other time of year, ....

.... well, let's just say it's a lonely endeavor.

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

Dot wrote:
TEOTWAWKI wrote:No I never let strangers stay in the house with my wife and kids. I didn't say you should and risk getting raped. That would be far and away too much to ask. I have had homeless stay with me after I became single. I helped them get n to some of those programs you spoke of. Chrissy you read a lot into what I said. I know for a fact you take care of your family and that in itself deserves a lot of credit and consideration...Charity first begins at home with ones family. I think you are a very good person. Those Bible verses should apply in degrees to everyone...we all can do more. Don't let them make you guilty where there is no reason to be..It really is between you and your God and no one else.

I don't have any guilt. I have paid my dues and done the right thing. God knows me. You don't, these people here don't.

You and others went after me and thought you could pass a judgment against me because of my stance.

its unfortunate that sometimes we don't expect a answer to something to come in such a form, but it does. and it counts with reason.

Im perfectly willing to let Pensacola be full of all the vagrants. You guys can become the nations vagrant city of preference.  Smile I will watch from here and pray you do a good job.

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You on the other hand effectively called me stupid for helping "Vagrants"...sure help one and the whole town will be crawling with them...I can say possibly the whole damned country will soon be crawling with them...what are you going to do ?...shoot em ?

2seaoat



Again a big thumbs up to T...........I have lived in many communities that the kindness and concern of people define our humanity, and how we treat the least among us defines us.....I will not be too harsh with Chrissy, because if you have spent much time with true homeless it is not some fairy tale ending......it is addiction, mental illness, complete and utter lack of training, love and resources which does not always end well no matter how well intended the person who offers a hand to help.  I also, am very cautious about just giving something to a homeless person because when I was living in Mexico with Medical students from all over the world, I had this Peruvian tell me as he observed me giving money to some children who were calling out "propina"...."propina" and I handed each some money. ........."do you feel good".......because if you feel good then most certainly do not stop, but if you are really concerned with those children, give them nothing."

He explained that there are methods to attack the systemic poverty of people, and there is a great deal of need to fund those approaches, but feel good donations to anybody may not address the underlying need.  Again, I have been guided by Matthew 6, and quietly make direct assistance, but sadly not always with the intended result, and often I am nothing but an enabler.

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

I really think most everybody here are good people no matter their political affiliation. I would trust most of you.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan


Last week I refused to give money to an old woman panhandling outside a local thrift store. I knew she had a drug habit...don't ask me how...I just knew. I will buy someone food before I'll give them money. Not to say that I haven't given money or sometimes wanted to give and stayed my hand because I didn't want to insult anyone. But I've told the story before of the young kid I saw huddling in a doorway in similar weather to what we've been experiencing...and gave him $5...the next morning, he had used part of what I gave him to leave donuts on my desk...a couple of years later, he wrote to me to tell me he had turned his life around...married with kids...happy. It wasn't a great big deal to me at the time, but...it was to him.

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

Floridatexan wrote:
Last week I refused to give money to an old woman panhandling outside a local thrift store.  I knew she had a drug habit...don't ask me how...I just knew.  I will buy someone food before I'll give them money.  Not to say that I haven't given money or sometimes wanted to give and stayed my hand because I didn't want to insult anyone.  But I've told the story before of the young kid I saw huddling in a doorway in similar weather to what we've been experiencing...and gave him $5...the next morning, he had used part of what I gave him to leave donuts on my desk...a couple of years later, he wrote to me to tell me he had turned his life around...married with kids...happy.  It wasn't a great big deal to me at the time, but...it was to him.  

proof you never know the soil you plant the seed of love in...if it's good soil it grows into a productive person able and happy to help others..paying it forward...good job Tex

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giving people at the store a dollar is not charity. lol

if that's the case then count me back in, I do that all the time. yall got easy requirements for getting such a big reward as to being called charitable. must be a left thing.

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