ZVUGKTUBM, Sal, CarlSagan, Knothead: Iran Strongly Rejects Text of Geneva Agreement Released by White House

2seaoat wrote:Your track record is impeccable.  You attempted to convince us that diplomacy would not work in Syria.   If I recall correctly the Syrians right up until the inspectors were removing the chemical weapons were telling the world they would not cooperate and no agreement had been reached.  I think Sal has been far too kind.  I think we have traitors amongst us.   As Lyndon Johnson spoke to Senator Dirkson about the treasonous communications between then presidential candidate Nixon and the North Vietnamese, we find apologist for the State of Israel who do not share ALL of our interests trying to undermine the clear best interests of this nation to find peace and stability in the Middle East.   War and dropping bombs which serves the interest of another nation state, and is contrary to our national interest is treason.  If diplomacy fails, and military options become the only viable alternative and we have a unified front with Israel.......no problem, but this country must look out for our interests first, and this constant undermining of diplomacy smells of treason.........but you are still chasing your tail, and I guess treason and your tail have about the same smell.

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:

2seaoat wrote:Your track record is impeccable.  You attempted to convince us that diplomacy would not work in Syria.   If I recall correctly the Syrians right up until the inspectors were removing the chemical weapons were telling the world they would not cooperate and no agreement had been reached.  I think Sal has been far too kind.  I think we have traitors amongst us.   As Lyndon Johnson spoke to Senator Dirkson about the treasonous communications between then presidential candidate Nixon and the North Vietnamese, we find apologist for the State of Israel who do not share ALL of our interests trying to undermine the clear best interests of this nation to find peace and stability in the Middle East.   War and dropping bombs which serves the interest of another nation state, and is contrary to our national interest is treason.  If diplomacy fails, and military options become the only viable alternative and we have a unified front with Israel.......no problem, but this country must look out for our interests first, and this constant undermining of diplomacy smells of treason.........but you are still chasing your tail, and I guess treason and your tail have about the same smell.

      

Seaoat nails it yet again!!!!

PkrBum wrote:
I don't give a god damn about israel. I also stated that the diplomacy in place via UN sanctions were having some effect.

Sal wrote:If negotiations and UN inspections can succeed in allowing Iran a civilian enrichment program while forestalling a weapons program, it is a breakthrough for the whole world and an important chapter in the ongoing attempts to limit proliferation.

2seaoat wrote:Seems to me the only people sniffing ASS around here is seaoat, sal and thier CHEERLEADER Z. Laughing

Nope, but we have been having a great deal of fun video tapping PK chasing his tail on this thread......we are going to send the video into America's funniest video......

Please, you must learn to forgive low-voltage posters who think they know what they are talking about.....  

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:

2seaoat wrote:Seems to me the only people sniffing ASS around here is seaoat, sal and thier CHEERLEADER Z. Laughing

Nope, but we have been having a great deal of fun video tapping PK chasing his tail on this thread......we are going to send the video into America's funniest video......

Please, you must learn to forgive low-voltage posters who think they know what they are talking about.....  

Chrissy wrote:

Sal wrote:If negotiations and UN inspections can succeed in allowing Iran a civilian enrichment program while forestalling a weapons program, it is a breakthrough for the whole world and an important chapter in the ongoing attempts to limit proliferation.

yes that worked so well for North Korea

PkrBum wrote:

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:

2seaoat wrote:Seems to me the only people sniffing ASS around here is seaoat, sal and thier CHEERLEADER Z. Laughing

Nope, but we have been having a great deal of fun video tapping PK chasing his tail on this thread......we are going to send the video into America's funniest video......

Please, you must learn to forgive low-voltage posters who think they know what they are talking about.....  

You are sapping energy... why don't you engage me? I think it's because you're a follower. Enlightenment is comfortable.

PkrBum wrote:

PkrBum wrote:

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:

2seaoat wrote:Seems to me the only people sniffing ASS around here is seaoat, sal and thier CHEERLEADER Z. Laughing

Nope, but we have been having a great deal of fun video tapping PK chasing his tail on this thread......we are going to send the video into America's funniest video......

Please, you must learn to forgive low-voltage posters who think they know what they are talking about.....  

You are sapping energy... why don't you engage me? I think it's because you're a follower. Enlightenment is comfortable.

To be fair... you do think free on energy... because you read that extensively and I do gain info from your input. Perhaps the reason you go along with the leftist positions otherwise is that you don't know those positions as well. Low information.

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:

PkrBum wrote:

PkrBum wrote:

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:

2seaoat wrote:Seems to me the only people sniffing ASS around here is seaoat, sal and thier CHEERLEADER Z. Laughing

Nope, but we have been having a great deal of fun video tapping PK chasing his tail on this thread......we are going to send the video into America's funniest video......

Please, you must learn to forgive low-voltage posters who think they know what they are talking about.....  

You are sapping energy... why don't you engage me? I think it's because you're a follower. Enlightenment is comfortable.

To be fair... you do think free on energy... because you read that extensively and I do gain info from your input. Perhaps the reason you go along with the leftist positions otherwise is that you don't know those positions as well. Low information.

Pokerbum, my posts on this thread have not been directed toward you. I am going after Israel-apologists and those who tend to post from extreme-right positons (I think you can figure out the two posters I am picking on). You are not an extremist, and you have many positions I can agree on.

PkrBum wrote:but I'm just a simple pragmatist or realist.

Sal wrote:

PkrBum wrote:but I'm just a simple pragmatist or realist.

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:You know, this notion leaves me totally perplexed. Those who want to bomb Iran have been silent on North Korea's bomb program. NK has already tested three bombs, and is considered a serious threat to the United States. Yet, these wingnuts are totally focused on bombing Iran, which doesn't even have a bomb yet. Seems to me, they have their noses so far up Israel's ass that they cannot see the forest from the trees. Use their same logic on this. North Korea has threatened the United States over and over again. Their rhetoric has been no different than the rhetoric used by Iran against Israel. Why haven't the bombs fallen on North Korea yet? Oh, maybe it is because they are crazy-assed and they have a fanatical 1,000,000 army who would seriously fight back against us and our ally to their south....[/color]

PkrBum wrote:

Sal wrote:

PkrBum wrote:but I'm just a simple pragmatist or realist.

lol... that must seem very funny to you.

Sal wrote:

PkrBum wrote:

Sal wrote:

PkrBum wrote:but I'm just a simple pragmatist or realist.

lol... that must seem very funny to you.

Yer damn straight!

lmao

Sal wrote:

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:You know, this notion leaves me totally perplexed. Those who want to bomb Iran have been silent on North Korea's bomb program. NK has already tested three bombs, and is considered a serious threat to the United States. Yet, these wingnuts are totally focused on bombing Iran, which doesn't even have a bomb yet. Seems to me, they have their noses so far up Israel's ass that they cannot see the forest from the trees. Use their same logic on this. North Korea has threatened the United States over and over again. Their rhetoric has been no different than the rhetoric used by Iran against Israel. Why haven't the bombs fallen on North Korea yet? Oh, maybe it is because they are crazy-assed and they have a fanatical 1,000,000 army who would seriously fight back against us and our ally to their south....[/color]

I think it's because there's no one in NK with whom to negotiate.

That place makes Iran look like the model of moderation.

It sure as hell ain't because Iran would be a pushover.

It's three times as big geographically and 2.5 times as populous as Iraq, and if I remember correctly our occupation of Iraq didn't go so smoothly.

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:On second thought, I think we should attack Iran the soonest. The price of oil has been lagging a bit lately, and such a move will be a boon for those who are invested in petroleum. $200-$250 per barrel will put a lot of royalties in the pockets of holders of mineral-rights, and should boost the portfolios of those who hold stock in energy companies.

Besides, afterward it will be fun reading PaceDog's whines about how much he is paying for gasoline after the price per gallon doubles from where it is now.