It is law; can we give it chance?

Jake92 wrote:The VOTING public NEVER had a chance to vote for it or not because it was all completed and passed during the presidents first term in office....  The politicians voting for it said they never readx it and had no idea what it was all about except that the president wanted it so they passed it....

Jake92 wrote:The plan was NEVER on the ballot for the voters,

Jake92 wrote:It was passed during Obama's FIRST term in office.......

CarlSagan wrote:

PACEDOG#1 wrote:Obamacare sucks just like as does its namesake

The name of the law is: "The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act."
How would you know if Obama sucks??

BTW, The conservatives on here are arguing to keep giving away free healthcare, and not to get all Americans to a doctor on a regular basis to live healthier lives therefore reducing future healthcare costs.

Curious.
Thanks.

Floridatexan wrote:I was always in favor of single-payer, or medicare for all.  But this is what we have; it's not going away.  It's a stepping stone, but it will be implemented, and no amount of grandstanding by the teabagger crazies will stop it.  And yes, it will be a bear to implement, but it at least gives people who couldn't afford individual policies an option...instead of nothing...and it won't affect the majority of citizens who already have insurance policies through their work or from the military.

Ralph Nader:  People Want Full Medicare For Allhttp://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/272-39/19600-focus-people-want-full-medicare-for-all


Here are two links he mentions (doctors and nurses supporting Medicare For All)
 

http://www.pnhp.org/
http://www.nationalnursesunited.org/affiliates/entry/california-nurses-association

Here is the link to Single Payer Action:
http://www.singlepayeraction.org/

Floridatexan wrote:
I was always in favor of single-payer, or medicare for all.  But this is what we have; it's not going away.  It's a stepping stone, but it will be implemented, and no amount of grandstanding by the teabagger crazies will stop it.  And yes, it will be a bear to implement, but it at least gives people who couldn't afford individual policies an option...instead of nothing...and it won't affect the majority of citizens who already have insurance policies through their work or from the military.

Ralph Nader:  People Want Full Medicare For Allhttp://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/272-39/19600-focus-people-want-full-medicare-for-all


Here are two links he mentions (doctors and nurses supporting Medicare For All)
 

http://www.pnhp.org/
http://www.nationalnursesunited.org/affiliates/entry/california-nurses-association

Here is the link to Single Payer Action:
http://www.singlepayeraction.org/

Damaged Eagle wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:
I was always in favor of single-payer, or medicare for all.  But this is what we have; it's not going away.  It's a stepping stone, but it will be implemented, and no amount of grandstanding by the teabagger crazies will stop it.  And yes, it will be a bear to implement, but it at least gives people who couldn't afford individual policies an option...instead of nothing...and it won't affect the majority of citizens who already have insurance policies through their work or from the military.

Ralph Nader:  People Want Full Medicare For Allhttp://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/272-39/19600-focus-people-want-full-medicare-for-all


Here are two links he mentions (doctors and nurses supporting Medicare For All)
 

http://www.pnhp.org/
http://www.nationalnursesunited.org/affiliates/entry/california-nurses-association

Here is the link to Single Payer Action:
http://www.singlepayeraction.org/

Then have your hero and martyr nationalize the damn health care industry and eliminate the controversy by making Medicare for all available through taxes that we pay to the United States government, instead of a tax that's not a tax paid to a private company.

*****SMILE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tna0Mmu1XlI

PBulldog2 wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:
I was always in favor of single-payer, or medicare for all.  But this is what we have; it's not going away.  It's a stepping stone, but it will be implemented, and no amount of grandstanding by the teabagger crazies will stop it.  And yes, it will be a bear to implement, but it at least gives people who couldn't afford individual policies an option...instead of nothing...and it won't affect the majority of citizens who already have insurance policies through their work or from the military.

Ralph Nader:  People Want Full Medicare For Allhttp://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/272-39/19600-focus-people-want-full-medicare-for-all


Here are two links he mentions (doctors and nurses supporting Medicare For All)
 

http://www.pnhp.org/
http://www.nationalnursesunited.org/affiliates/entry/california-nurses-association

Here is the link to Single Payer Action:
http://www.singlepayeraction.org/

Then have your hero and martyr nationalize the damn health care industry and eliminate the controversy by making Medicare for all available through taxes that we pay to the United States government, instead of a tax that's not a tax paid to a private company.

*****SMILE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tna0Mmu1XlI

That's exactly what I think should happen, DE. Did you read the links FT offered?

PACEDOG#1 wrote:It's a tax and the real battle starts oct 1

Dreamsglore wrote:

Jake92 wrote:The VOTING public NEVER had a chance to vote for it or not because it was all completed and passed during the presidents first term in office....  The politicians voting for it said they never readx it and had no idea what it was all about except that the president wanted it so they passed it....

That's unadulterated horseshit. Are you a Limbaugh follower?

Floridatexan wrote:
I was always in favor of single-payer, or medicare for all.  But this is what we have; it's not going away.  It's a stepping stone, but it will be implemented, and no amount of grandstanding by the teabagger crazies will stop it.  And yes, it will be a bear to implement, but it at least gives people who couldn't afford individual policies an option...instead of nothing...and it won't affect the majority of citizens who already have insurance policies through their work or from the military.

Ralph Nader:  People Want Full Medicare For Allhttp://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/272-39/19600-focus-people-want-full-medicare-for-all


Here are two links he mentions (doctors and nurses supporting Medicare For All)
 

http://www.pnhp.org/
http://www.nationalnursesunited.org/affiliates/entry/california-nurses-association

Here is the link to Single Payer Action:
http://www.singlepayeraction.org/

Floridatexan wrote:
A comment from the Nader article:

Onterryo 2013-09-27 11:55
I live in Canada. My son had a 12 hour heart operation 7 years ago. The cost to me? About $60 worth of parking lot fees plus some pain pills for him after he was discharged. It's time for America to realize they are being lied to by the Republicans and their supporters who will continue to rake in huge profits at the expense of the American taxpayer. I am 62, my mom is 81 and you will never hear us complain about our system. Last year at the age of 82 my dad passed away from a stroke. He was in the hospital for more than a week before he died. Again, the cost was parking fees. For all of that time but two days he was in a private room. For his last two days he was in another private room where my mom could sleep in a convertible chair beside him until he breathed his last breath. There was no "death panel", just professional and loving care. Not only did the staff take care of him but also my mother while she stayed at his bedside more than 16 hours a day. Yes, sometimes things do not go perfectly but I would be willing to compare our clinics, emergency clinics and hospitals to those the US. We may not win every comparison but I believe we would win the vast majority.