What's your explanation of this?

othershoe1030 wrote:Just doesn't seem like a good move on many levels. None of the speakers at yesterday's event in DC commemorating the march on Washington for Jobs and Freedom held 50 years ago were Republicans.

Many were invited, none came/spoke. Google the phrase: "Republicans invited to 50th anniversary of march on washington" and see what you get. And they are mystified as to why nearly all Blacks and other non-white groups vote for the democrats.

othershoe1030 wrote:Just doesn't seem like a good move on many levels. None of the speakers at yesterday's event in DC commemorating the march on Washington for Jobs and Freedom held 50 years ago were Republicans.

Many were invited, none came/spoke. Google the phrase: "Republicans invited to 50th anniversary of march on washington" and see what you get. And they are mystified as to why nearly all Blacks and other non-white groups vote for the democrats.

Damaged Eagle wrote:

When all the true job creators are gone and all you supposedly enlightened progressive liberals who only want more given to you for nothin' but there's nothin' left to give ya' all will still be wonderin' that.

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY3u7bB7dZk

Damaged Eagle wrote:

When all the true job creators are gone and all you supposedly enlightened progressive liberals who only want more given to you for nothin' but there's nothin' left to give ya' all will still be wonderin' that.

gulfbeachbandit wrote:The Republicans were all at work.

Joanimaroni wrote:

gulfbeachbandit wrote:The Republicans were all at work.

othershoe1030 wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:

gulfbeachbandit wrote:The Republicans were all at work.

They should all be making the minimum wage.

gulfbeachbandit wrote:The Republicans were all at work.

othershoe1030 wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:
When all the true job creators are gone and all you supposedly enlightened progressive liberals who only want more given to you for nothin' but there's nothin' left to give ya' all will still be wonderin' that.

Astonishing, only a permanent resident of Wingnutistan could take a march for JOBS and turn it into a call for a hand out.

othershoe1030 wrote:I thought the 50th anniversary celebration was a great display of unity.

othershoe1030 wrote:As you know, many Republicans were invited but declined for various reasons.

othershoe1030 wrote:They like to claim the party of Lincoln but don't live up to his vision.

othershoe1030 wrote:And they wonder why most moderates, 93% of blacks, 72% of Latinos, 74% of Asians, and 56% of women don't vote Republican.

PkrBum wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:

gulfbeachbandit wrote:The Republicans were all at work.

They should all be making the minimum wage.

That might be one way to force them to vote for the side that promises them the most stuff.

CarlSagan wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:
When all the true job creators are gone and all you supposedly enlightened progressive liberals who only want more given to you for nothin' but there's nothin' left to give ya' all will still be wonderin' that.

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY3u7bB7dZk

And your rationalization will ensure that there will never be another Republican POTUS. I can live with that.

othershoe1030 wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:

When all the true job creators are gone and all you supposedly enlightened progressive liberals who only want more given to you for nothin' but there's nothin' left to give ya' all will still be wonderin' that.

Astonishing, only a permanent resident of Wingnutistan could take a march for JOBS and turn it into a call for a hand out.

I thought the 50th anniversary celebration was a great display of unity. As you know, many Republicans were invited but declined for various reasons.  They like to claim the party of Lincoln but don't live up to his vision.

And they wonder why most moderates, 93% of blacks, 72% of Latinos, 74% of Asians, and 56% of women don't vote Republican.

othershoe1030 wrote:Just doesn't seem like a good move on many levels. None of the speakers at yesterday's event in DC commemorating the march on Washington for Jobs and Freedom held 50 years ago were Republicans.

Many were invited, none came/spoke. Google the phrase: "Republicans invited to 50th anniversary of march on washington" and see what you get. And they are mystified as to why nearly all Blacks and other non-white groups vote for the democrats.

Chrissy wrote:the left has perverted MLK's dream.

I see where scott was invited as a spectator, not as a speaker. maybe he didn't want to be a spectator. so its unclear.

What about Justice Thomas?

either way, the movement has been hijacked and perverted into some social engineering tool for the left.

PkrBum wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:

gulfbeachbandit wrote:The Republicans were all at work.

They should all be making the minimum wage.

That might be one way to force them to vote for the side that promises them the most stuff.

Damaged Eagle wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:
When all the true job creators are gone and all you supposedly enlightened progressive liberals who only want more given to you for nothin' but there's nothin' left to give ya' all will still be wonderin' that.

Astonishing, only a permanent resident of Wingnutistan could take a march for JOBS and turn it into a call for a hand out.

Minimum wage is already to high.

If I'm expected to pay $15-$20 an hour the person I'm paying better be able to pretty much do everything I'm capable of doing and do it almost as fast.

Most high school students are barely capable of pushing a broom and most of them take almost four times as long to do it correctly.

So they're only worth about $5 an hour to me.  

Unfortunately for you there's a whole bunch of them on the out there who are in their twenties, thirties, forties, and up, who are only about that capable also.

.............

Workers in the U.S. earning the minimum wage are worse off now than they were four decades ago.
The CHART OF THE DAY shows that after adjusting for inflation, the federal minimum wage dropped 20 percent from 1967 to 2010, even as the nominal figure climbed to $7.25 an hour from $1.40, a 418 percent gain.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-12-28/minimum-wage-in-u-s-fails-to-beat-inflation-chart-of-the-day.html

I don't know many high paid types that would welcome a 20% pay cut but that's exactly what's happened to the minimum wage earners who don't have any/much slack in how they spend their money.

othershoe1030 wrote:I thought the 50th anniversary celebration was a great display of unity.

I could care less about unity. I'd rather have someone who is capable of doing the job assigned.

Perhaps working together to improve our education system, job training, building and repairing our crumbling infrastructure, insulating our buildings and other non-out-sourcable jobs just might be a good productive way to go. It would do the economy a lot of good and provide thousands of private sector jobs for construction companies, etc. But the "go it alone" crowd represented by the congressional GOPer's resists any of this at every turn.  There are very REAL benefits to working together or unity and I see it as a good thing.

othershoe1030 wrote:As you know, many Republicans were invited but declined for various reasons.

No I don't know. I was busy working. How about you?  

For crying out loud, I'm retired. I am still working on real estate projects so I don't exactly sit around all day twiddling my thumbs. I am a former union member and a good steward of my own money. I have invested wisely and spent carefully. I am a working democrat. Are you going to retire one day?

othershoe1030 wrote:They like to claim the party of Lincoln but don't live up to his vision.

In your world view.

Most people, I think, see Lincoln as a symbol of unity and as an emancipator.

othershoe1030 wrote:And they wonder why most moderates, 93% of blacks, 72% of Latinos, 74% of Asians, and 56% of women don't vote Republican.

Where'd you get those stats?

What happened last night was a demographic time bomb that had been ticking and that blew up in GOP faces. As the Obama campaign had assumed more than a year ago, the white portion of the electorate dropped to 72%, and the president won just 39% of that vote. But he carried a whopping 93% of black voters (representing 13% of the electorate), 71% of Latinos (representing 10%), and also 73% of Asians (3%). What’s more, despite all the predictions that youth turnout would be down, voters 18-29 made up 19% of last night’s voting population -- up from 18% four years ago -- and President Obama took 60% from that group.
http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/07/14993875-first-thoughts-obamas-demographic-edge?lite

The GOP's gender gap.

According to CNN's exit polls, 55% of women and 45% of men voted for Obama and 44% of women and 52% of men voted for Romney. That level of female support for the president made an especially big impact in swing states like Ohio where the gender breakdown mirrored the national figures.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/08/politics/women-election

othershoe1030 wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:
When all the true job creators are gone and all you supposedly enlightened progressive liberals who only want more given to you for nothin' but there's nothin' left to give ya' all will still be wonderin' that.

Astonishing, only a permanent resident of Wingnutistan could take a march for JOBS and turn it into a call for a hand out.

Minimum wage is already to high.

If I'm expected to pay $15-$20 an hour the person I'm paying better be able to pretty much do everything I'm capable of doing and do it almost as fast.

Most high school students are barely capable of pushing a broom and most of them take almost four times as long to do it correctly.

So they're only worth about $5 an hour to me.  

Unfortunately for you there's a whole bunch of them on the out there who are in their twenties, thirties, forties, and up, who are only about that capable also.

.............

Workers in the U.S. earning the minimum wage are worse off now than they were four decades ago.

othershoe1030 wrote:The CHART OF THE DAY shows that after adjusting for inflation, the federal minimum wage dropped 20 percent from 1967 to 2010, even as the nominal figure climbed to $7.25 an hour from $1.40, a 418 percent gain.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-12-28/minimum-wage-in-u-s-fails-to-beat-inflation-chart-of-the-day.html

I don't know many high paid types that would welcome a 20% pay cut but that's exactly what's happened to the minimum wage earners who don't have any/much slack in how they spend their money.

othershoe1030 wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:I thought the 50th anniversary celebration was a great display of unity.

I could care less about unity. I'd rather have someone who is capable of doing the job assigned.

Perhaps working together to improve our education system, job training, building and repairing our crumbling infrastructure, insulating our buildings and other non-out-sourcable jobs just might be a good productive way to go. It would do the economy a lot of good and provide thousands of private sector jobs for construction companies, etc. But the "go it alone" crowd represented by the congressional GOPer's resists any of this at every turn.  There are very REAL benefits to working together or unity and I see it as a good thing.

othershoe1030 wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:As you know, many Republicans were invited but declined for various reasons.

No I don't know. I was busy working. How about you?

 

For crying out loud, I'm retired. I am still working on real estate projects so I don't exactly sit around all day twiddling my thumbs. I am a former union member and a good steward of my own money. I have invested wisely and spent carefully. I am a working democrat. Are you going to retire one day?

othershoe1030 wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:They like to claim the party of Lincoln but don't live up to his vision.

In your world view.

Most people, I think, see Lincoln as a symbol of unity and as an emancipator.

othershoe1030 wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:And they wonder why most moderates, 93% of blacks, 72% of Latinos, 74% of Asians, and 56% of women don't vote Republican.

Where'd you get those stats?

What happened last night was a demographic time bomb that had been ticking and that blew up in GOP faces. As the Obama campaign had assumed more than a year ago, the white portion of the electorate dropped to 72%, and the president won just 39% of that vote. But he carried a whopping 93% of black voters (representing 13% of the electorate), 71% of Latinos (representing 10%), and also 73% of Asians (3%). What’s more, despite all the predictions that youth turnout would be down, voters 18-29 made up 19% of last night’s voting population -- up from 18% four years ago -- and President Obama took 60% from that group.
http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/07/14993875-first-thoughts-obamas-demographic-edge?lite

The GOP's gender gap.

According to CNN's exit polls, 55% of women and 45% of men voted for Obama and 44% of women and 52% of men voted for Romney. That level of female support for the president made an especially big impact in swing states like Ohio where the gender breakdown mirrored the national figures.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/08/politics/women-election

Damaged Eagle wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:
When all the true job creators are gone and all you supposedly enlightened progressive liberals who only want more given to you for nothin' but there's nothin' left to give ya' all will still be wonderin' that.

Astonishing, only a permanent resident of Wingnutistan could take a march for JOBS and turn it into a call for a hand out.

Minimum wage is already to high.

If I'm expected to pay $15-$20 an hour the person I'm paying better be able to pretty much do everything I'm capable of doing and do it almost as fast.

Most high school students are barely capable of pushing a broom and most of them take almost four times as long to do it correctly.

So they're only worth about $5 an hour to me.  

Unfortunately for you there's a whole bunch of them on the out there who are in their twenties, thirties, forties, and up, who are only about that capable also.

.............

Workers in the U.S. earning the minimum wage are worse off now than they were four decades ago.

The economic depression I saw coming nearly two decades ago is here and it's going to be bad and long.

Nothing new here expect some friendly advise...

Learn to tighten your belt a little tighter.

othershoe1030 wrote:The CHART OF THE DAY shows that after adjusting for inflation, the federal minimum wage dropped 20 percent from 1967 to 2010, even as the nominal figure climbed to $7.25 an hour from $1.40, a 418 percent gain.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-12-28/minimum-wage-in-u-s-fails-to-beat-inflation-chart-of-the-day.html

I don't know many high paid types that would welcome a 20% pay cut but that's exactly what's happened to the minimum wage earners who don't have any/much slack in how they spend their money.

Cry me a river.

Really? What a piss poor response. I don't know many people who would want to function with a 20% reduction in their pay. I'm not crying you a river I'm telling you what the adjustment for inflation is and you can't see the difference.

othershoe1030 wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:I thought the 50th anniversary celebration was a great display of unity.

I could care less about unity. I'd rather have someone who is capable of doing the job assigned.

Perhaps working together to improve our education system, job training, building and repairing our crumbling infrastructure, insulating our buildings and other non-out-sourcable jobs just might be a good productive way to go. It would do the economy a lot of good and provide thousands of private sector jobs for construction companies, etc. But the "go it alone" crowd represented by the congressional GOPer's resists any of this at every turn.  There are very REAL benefits to working together or unity and I see it as a good thing.

Most of them don't want an education or training in a job that requires them to do real work.

There will soon be no money for education or improving the infrastructure and all those other things you want to do...

Going to borrow for all these things?... It's pretty much all been borrowed... Welcome to the New Great Depression that will be worse than the last and last longer.

Here's that friendly advice one more time... Learn to tighten you belt a little tighter.  What's with all the stupid "friendly advice and belt tightening? You are making no sense. It is neither friendly nor advice nor useful.

othershoe1030 wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:As you know, many Republicans were invited but declined for various reasons.

No I don't know. I was busy working. How about you?

 

For crying out loud, I'm retired. I am still working on real estate projects so I don't exactly sit around all day twiddling my thumbs. I am a former union member and a good steward of my own money. I have invested wisely and spent carefully. I am a working democrat. Are you going to retire one day?

Gee... Then why don't you invest in your own business and provide these $15 an hour jobs for the people you feel so much empathy for instead of working a job someone else could do?

I do the work I am capable of doing and that I enjoy. It is like a hobby to me with investment rewards at the end. All the people I hire, plumbers, electricians, roofers make more than $15 so you can get off your preachy high horse on this issue where I am concerned. See, there you go assuming you know something about how I handle my workers and you are dead wrong so keep up the good work.

Oh! You're not willing to take the risk (all wrong as pointed out above)but you're more than willing to tell others who have taken the risk to pay more even though you have no clue as to whether it'll cause their business to go bankrupt.

othershoe1030 wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:They like to claim the party of Lincoln but don't live up to his vision.

In your world view.

Most people, I think, see Lincoln as a symbol of unity and as an emancipator.

Like there's ever been unity.

There certainly has been a much more evident spirit of working together for a common goal than there is at this point in history. The government has done many impressive things when people figured out ways to work together building dams and bridges and creating national parks etc. etc.

othershoe1030 wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:And they wonder why most moderates, 93% of blacks, 72% of Latinos, 74% of Asians, and 56% of women don't vote Republican.

Where'd you get those stats?

What happened last night was a demographic time bomb that had been ticking and that blew up in GOP faces. As the Obama campaign had assumed more than a year ago, the white portion of the electorate dropped to 72%, and the president won just 39% of that vote. But he carried a whopping 93% of black voters (representing 13% of the electorate), 71% of Latinos (representing 10%), and also 73% of Asians (3%). What’s more, despite all the predictions that youth turnout would be down, voters 18-29 made up 19% of last night’s voting population -- up from 18% four years ago -- and President Obama took 60% from that group.
http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/07/14993875-first-thoughts-obamas-demographic-edge?lite

The GOP's gender gap.

According to CNN's exit polls, 55% of women and 45% of men voted for Obama and 44% of women and 52% of men voted for Romney. That level of female support for the president made an especially big impact in swing states like Ohio where the gender breakdown mirrored the national figures.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/08/politics/women-election

If you think doing away with the Republican party because of all your pressing social issues, you have the various minorities convinced are important will solve all your woes, I'm pretty sure you'll be even more disappointed in the final outcome.

Good gravy DE it is rather a huge and illogical leap from stating the voting statistics for a recent election and "doing away with the Republican Party". What I did was collect basically the same data and posted it to answer your question as to the source of the figures.

If the trend continues it will spell doom for the R's but it is not cast in stone to continue this way. Unfortunately for the current crop of noisy folks in the GOP their minds seem to be cast in stone. They are grasping at ways to suppress the vote in an attempt to create a margin of victory but instead they are just showing themselves to be devoid of new ideas or supporters of any kind of policies that might appeal to the majority of the American public. They will likely see the error of their ways and eventually change course.  There will always be some sort of "conservative" party in this country.  It just can't look much like the one we have now given the recent statistics.  They are creating their own demise. It isn't me.

Damaged Eagle wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:
When all the true job creators are gone and all you supposedly enlightened progressive liberals who only want more given to you for nothin' but there's nothin' left to give ya' all will still be wonderin' that.

Astonishing, only a permanent resident of Wingnutistan could take a march for JOBS and turn it into a call for a hand out.

Minimum wage is already to high.

If I'm expected to pay $15-$20 an hour the person I'm paying better be able to pretty much do everything I'm capable of doing and do it almost as fast.

Most high school students are barely capable of pushing a broom and most of them take almost four times as long to do it correctly.

So they're only worth about $5 an hour to me.  

Unfortunately for you there's a whole bunch of them on the out there who are in their twenties, thirties, forties, and up, who are only about that capable also.

.............

Workers in the U.S. earning the minimum wage are worse off now than they were four decades ago.

The economic depression I saw coming nearly two decades ago is here and it's going to be bad and long.

Nothing new here expect some friendly advise...

Learn to tighten your belt a little tighter.

othershoe1030 wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:The CHART OF THE DAY shows that after adjusting for inflation, the federal minimum wage dropped 20 percent from 1967 to 2010, even as the nominal figure climbed to $7.25 an hour from $1.40, a 418 percent gain.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-12-28/minimum-wage-in-u-s-fails-to-beat-inflation-chart-of-the-day.html

I don't know many high paid types that would welcome a 20% pay cut but that's exactly what's happened to the minimum wage earners who don't have any/much slack in how they spend their money.

Cry me a river.

Really? What a piss poor response. I don't know many people who would want to function with a 20% reduction in their pay. I'm not crying you a river I'm telling you what the adjustment for inflation is and you can't see the difference.

othershoe1030 wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:I thought the 50th anniversary celebration was a great display of unity.

I could care less about unity. I'd rather have someone who is capable of doing the job assigned.

Perhaps working together to improve our education system, job training, building and repairing our crumbling infrastructure, insulating our buildings and other non-out-sourcable jobs just might be a good productive way to go. It would do the economy a lot of good and provide thousands of private sector jobs for construction companies, etc. But the "go it alone" crowd represented by the congressional GOPer's resists any of this at every turn.  There are very REAL benefits to working together or unity and I see it as a good thing.

Most of them don't want an education or training in a job that requires them to do real work.

There will soon be no money for education or improving the infrastructure and all those other things you want to do...

Going to borrow for all these things?... It's pretty much all been borrowed... Welcome to the New Great Depression that will be worse than the last and last longer.

Here's that friendly advice one more time... Learn to tighten you belt a little tighter.

 What's with all the stupid "friendly advice and belt tightening? You are making no sense. It is neither friendly nor advice nor useful.

othershoe1030 wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:As you know, many Republicans were invited but declined for various reasons.

No I don't know. I was busy working. How about you?

 

For crying out loud, I'm retired. I am still working on real estate projects so I don't exactly sit around all day twiddling my thumbs. I am a former union member and a good steward of my own money. I have invested wisely and spent carefully. I am a working democrat. Are you going to retire one day?

Gee... Then why don't you invest in your own business and provide these $15 an hour jobs for the people you feel so much empathy for instead of working a job someone else could do?

I do the work I am capable of doing and that I enjoy. It is like a hobby to me with investment rewards at the end. All the people I hire, plumbers, electricians, roofers make more than $15 so you can get off your preachy high horse on this issue where I am concerned. See, there you go assuming you know something about how I handle my workers and you are dead wrong so keep up the good work.

Damaged Eagle wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:Oh! You're not willing to take the risk but you're more than willing to tell others who have taken the risk to pay more even though you have no clue as to whether it'll cause their business to go bankrupt.

(all wrong as pointed out above)

othershoe1030 wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:They like to claim the party of Lincoln but don't live up to his vision.

In your world view.

Most people, I think, see Lincoln as a symbol of unity and as an emancipator.

Like there's ever been unity.

There certainly has been a much more evident spirit of working together for a common goal than there is at this point in history. The government has done many impressive things when people figured out ways to work together building dams and bridges and creating national parks etc. etc.

othershoe1030 wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:And they wonder why most moderates, 93% of blacks, 72% of Latinos, 74% of Asians, and 56% of women don't vote Republican.

Where'd you get those stats?

What happened last night was a demographic time bomb that had been ticking and that blew up in GOP faces. As the Obama campaign had assumed more than a year ago, the white portion of the electorate dropped to 72%, and the president won just 39% of that vote. But he carried a whopping 93% of black voters (representing 13% of the electorate), 71% of Latinos (representing 10%), and also 73% of Asians (3%). What’s more, despite all the predictions that youth turnout would be down, voters 18-29 made up 19% of last night’s voting population -- up from 18% four years ago -- and President Obama took 60% from that group.
http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/07/14993875-first-thoughts-obamas-demographic-edge?lite

The GOP's gender gap.

According to CNN's exit polls, 55% of women and 45% of men voted for Obama and 44% of women and 52% of men voted for Romney. That level of female support for the president made an especially big impact in swing states like Ohio where the gender breakdown mirrored the national figures.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/08/politics/women-election

If you think doing away with the Republican party because of all your pressing social issues, you have the various minorities convinced are important will solve all your woes, I'm pretty sure you'll be even more disappointed in the final outcome.

Good gravy DE it is rather a huge and illogical leap from stating the voting statistics for a recent election and "doing away with the Republican Party". What I did was collect basically the same data and posted it to answer your question as to the source of the figures.

If the trend continues it will spell doom for the R's but it is not cast in stone to continue this way. Unfortunately for the current crop of noisy folks in the GOP their minds seem to be cast in stone. They are grasping at ways to suppress the vote in an attempt to create a margin of victory but instead they are just showing themselves to be devoid of new ideas or supporters of any kind of policies that might appeal to the majority of the American public. They will likely see the error of their ways and eventually change course.  There will always be some sort of "conservative" party in this country.  It just can't look much like the one we have now given the recent statistics.  They are creating their own demise. It isn't me.