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Christie Spending $4.7 Mil of Sandy Relief $$ on Self Promotion

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Sal

Sal

Bob wrote:This whole Chris Christie thing is a really good example of how idiotic the whole thing has become.

You've got one side who despises Chris Christie because they say he's nothing but a RINO version of obama.

And then you've got the other side (people like you) saying Christie and Bush are identical clones.

What does any of that shit even mean.  That's nothing but some really predictable and mediocre talking points for some grossly overpaid half-assed pundits who have far too much influence.  But you braindead types absorb it and regurgitate it.



 Some of us make our judgements based on POLICY, Bob.


Keep lapping up the media bilge. 

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

Sal wrote:

I know exactly what "conservative" means today. 


It means Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity and the crazy teabag motherfuckers in the House. 


Old school conservatives are called "Democrats". 


And, liberals are called "Bernie Sanders" and " Elizabeth Warren". 

You just proved my point. Those words have one meaning for one ilk and an entirely different meaning for another. When we can't even agree on the definition of a word then that word no longer has any value to us. We invented words to help us communicate with each other. That only works when we all define a word the same way. You political wrastlin fans now have your own fucking separate dictionaries. lol


Markle

Markle

Sal wrote:
2seaoat wrote:One thing for sure though Bob, Christie put the piece of shit Rand Paul in his place. Regardless of this debacle I would vote for him for President if he ran.

ditto

"There's an old saying in Tennessee ... I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee ... that says, fool me once, shame on ... shame on you. Fool me ... you can't get fooled again."

David Letterman
Barack Obama "Uh" Count
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThEAO0lt4Dw&feature=related

Markle

Markle

Sal wrote:
Bob wrote:Your big mission in life is to "fight conservatism".
Nobody even knows what that fucking word means anymore.  No different than the word "liberal".  Ten different people define it ten different ways.
Those words are only useful for black and white minded simpletons.
The most overused words in the English language.

 Horseshit. 


I know exactly what "conservative" means today. 


It means Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity and the crazy teabag motherfuckers in the House. 


Old school conservatives are called "Democrats". 


And, liberals are called "Bernie Sanders" and " Elizabeth Warren". 

Actually, as you know, Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Keith Ellison and members of the Progressive Congressional Caucus are Socialists.

Who do you call Progressives?

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Guest


Guest

Old school conservatives are called "Democrats". 


And, liberals are called "Bernie Sanders" and " Elizabeth Warren". [/quote]

Actually, as you know, Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Keith Ellison and members of the Progressive Congressional Caucus are Socialists.

Who do you call Progressives?
[/quote]

Just by simply reading your posts, Markle, one must wonder if you even know the meaning of the words socialist and socialism. Here, I can help...

socialism (ˈsəʊʃəˌlɪzəm)

— n
Compare capitalism an economic theory or system in which the means of production, distribution, and exchange are owned by the community collectively, usually through the state. It is characterized by production for use rather than profit, by equality of individual wealth, by the absence of competitive economic activity, and, usually, by government determination of investment, prices, and production levels

Curious that I have never seen or read where any of this is actually occurring here in the U.S.A. Markle, will you please post links or actually show proof of where and how this is occurring in our country and in our present day?


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Guest


Guest

Actually, as you know, Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Keith Ellison and members of the Progressive Congressional Caucus are Socialists.

Who do you call Progressives?
[/quote]

I must also question as to whether you actually know the meaning of the word, "progressive." Here, I can help....


pro·gres·sive
[pruh-gres-iv]
adjective
-favoring or advocating progress, change, improvement, or reform, as opposed to wishing to maintain things as they are, especially in political matters

Progressives and socialists do not have much in common; if you compare and contrast the differing definitions.

It is predictable that you, being an super ultra-conservative, cannot grasp the differences between these ideologies. Your far-right, rigid, live-in-the-past idea of how the country should be run is antiquated and passe.
18th century ideas do not work in the 21st century.

Guest


Guest

I wont vote for Christy, I don't like him.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

. wrote:I wont vote for Christy, I don't like him.
Of course you don't like him.  For you to like him he would have to say "obama is a muslim commie".  
Because that's how ignorant you are.  

But what you don't realize is christie is not an obama lover.  He's "an exact clone of bush".  Just ask Sal because he's as ignorant as you are.  lol

Markle

Markle

CarlSagan wrote:Old school conservatives are called "Democrats". 


And, liberals are called "Bernie Sanders" and " Elizabeth Warren". 
Actually, as you know, Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Keith Ellison and members of the Progressive Congressional Caucus are Socialists.

Who do you call Progressives?

Just by simply reading your posts, Markle, one must wonder if you even know the meaning of the words socialist and socialism. Here, I can help...

socialism  (ˈsəʊʃəˌlɪzəm)

— n
Compare capitalism an economic theory or system in which the means of production, distribution, and exchange are owned by the community collectively, usually through the state. It is characterized by production for use rather than profit, by equality of individual wealth, by the absence of competitive economic activity, and, usually, by government determination of investment, prices, and production levels

Curious that I have never seen or read where any of this is actually occurring here in the U.S.A.  Markle, will you please post links or actually show proof of where and how this is occurring in our country and in our present day?[/quote]


Steps President Barack Hussein Obama is slowly taking.  We now own Sallie Mae, Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae, General Motors and have sold Chrysler to Italy.  Does that still make it an American Car Company or an Italian Car Company.

As you should know, ObamaCare is the first step toward the government taking over 17% of our economy.  I'd say that's moving in the direction of Socialism.  I know, you don't.  Such is life.

You didn't go far enough with the definition of Socialism.  Keep in mind that President Obama told us to judge him by the people with whom who he surrounded himself.

so·cial·ism
 [soh-shuh-liz-uhm]  Show IPA  

noun  
1.  a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.

2.  procedure or practice in accordance with this theory.

3.  (in Marxist theory) the stage following capitalism in the transition of a society to communism, characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist principles.

Christie Spending $4.7 Mil of Sandy Relief $$ on Self Promotion - Page 2 ObamaMarxistProfessors-1

Notice the stated goals of President Barack Hussein Obama.

Guest


Guest

Progressivism, marxism, socialism, communism... etc = subjective authoritarian govt solutions and controls...

It's not that complicated.

Markle

Markle

CarlSagan wrote:Actually, as you know, Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Keith Ellison and members of the Progressive Congressional Caucus are Socialists.

Who do you call Progressives?
I must also question as to whether you actually know the meaning of the word, "progressive."  Here, I can help....


pro·gres·sive
[pruh-gres-iv]
adjective
-favoring or advocating progress, change, improvement, or reform, as opposed to wishing to maintain things as they are, especially in political matters

Progressives and socialists do not have much in common; if you compare and contrast the differing definitions.

It is predictable that you, being an super ultra-conservative, cannot grasp the differences between these ideologies. Your far-right, rigid, live-in-the-past idea of how the country should be run is antiquated and passe.
18th century ideas do not work in the 21st century.
[/quote]---------------------------------------------------------------------------------


I know the daily meaning of the word Progressive, not what PROGRESSIVES would like the population to see.

When a description of their philosophy takes on a sharply negative connotation, they change the description of themselves.  For instance, as you well know, all these words are synonymous with each other.

Socialism morphed to Liberal which morphed to Left which morphed to Far Left, which has morphed to Progressive which, as you know, simply means Socialism.  

For instance, the Congressional PROGRESSIVE Caucus has as one of its founders, Bernie Sanders, the only self acclaimed Socialist in Congress.  Helpful in forming the caucus was the Democratic Socialists of America.

I am curious, why do Progressives keep running from their own identification?

Guest


Guest

Bob wrote:
. wrote:I wont vote for Christy, I don't like him.
Of course you don't like him.  For you to like him he would have to say "obama is a muslim commie".  
Because that's how ignorant you are.  

But what you don't realize is christie is not an obama lover.  He's "an exact clone of bush".  Just ask Sal because he's as ignorant as you are.  lol
You and your busom buddy have a falling out? You don't say?

Guest


Guest

Dreamsglore wrote:
Bob wrote:
. wrote:I wont vote for Christy, I don't like him.
Of course you don't like him.  For you to like him he would have to say "obama is a muslim commie".  
Because that's how ignorant you are.  

But what you don't realize is christie is not an obama lover.  He's "an exact clone of bush".  Just ask Sal because he's as ignorant as you are.  lol
You and your busom buddy have a falling out? You don't say?
im not here enough to be anyone's buddy.

why do you worry about it so much, I mean really I not here that much so you seek out anywhere you can to make snide remarks.

you must be bored.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

Markle wrote:
doubtingthomas wrote:Again Markle wtf does obama care have to do with Christie?
 
It appears that Sal has a problem with New Jersey spending money allocated to promote New Jersey using their Governor to promote New Jersey.

I am pointing out the hypocrisy of using tens of millions of tax payer dollars to cram a program Americans did not want, up their...throats whether they like it or not.

Sal doesn't have a problem with that spending but he does about New Jersey and he doesn't even live in that state.
Hypocrisy? You have the absolute gall to use that word? Who spent trillions on Iraq and Afghanistan? Eight long years of watching those SOB's lie through their teeth, killing, torturing, making a mockery of our Constitution, international law, MORAL LAW, playing reverse Robin Hood with the economy...WTH? You live in a glass house, Markle...or whoever you are.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

Bob wrote:Your big mission in life is to "fight conservatism".
Nobody even knows what that fucking word means anymore.  No different than the word "liberal".  Ten different people define it ten different ways.
Those words are only useful for black and white minded simpletons.
The most overused words in the English language.
What do you propose to do about it, Bob, except sit on the fence and jeer at both teams? There are most definitely differences in the liberal/conservative approaches, especially in this day and age when the GOP has gone completely off the rails...when people have stooped to defending the indefensible because of political affiliation. I will stay with the Democrats...the alternative, letting another Bush or a clone of him into the White House, is unthinkable. Voting 3rd party is not an option because it would only give votes to the other side. I will absolutely and positively never vote for a Republican again...and, yes, I have in the past. I have a lot of respect for people like Jill Stein, but she's only "a voice crying out in the wilderness". Take your blinders off.

Sal

Sal

Floridatexan wrote:
What do you propose to do about it, Bob, except sit on the fence and jeer at both teams?  There are most definitely differences in the liberal/conservative approaches, especially in this day and age when the GOP has gone completely off the rails...when people have stooped to defending the indefensible because of political affiliation.  I will stay with the Democrats...the alternative, letting another Bush or a clone of him into the White House, is unthinkable.  Voting 3rd party is not an option because it would only give votes to the other side.  I will absolutely and positively never vote for a Republican again...and, yes, I have in the past.  I have a lot of respect for people like Jill Stein, but she's only "a voice crying out in the wilderness".  Take your blinders off.
 Well put. 

Guest


Guest

Markle wrote:
CarlSagan wrote:Actually, as you know, Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Keith Ellison and members of the Progressive Congressional Caucus are Socialists.

Who do you call Progressives?
I must also question as to whether you actually know the meaning of the word, "progressive."  Here, I can help....


pro·gres·sive
[pruh-gres-iv]
adjective
-favoring or advocating progress, change, improvement, or reform, as opposed to wishing to maintain things as they are, especially in political matters

Progressives and socialists do not have much in common; if you compare and contrast the differing definitions.

It is predictable that you, being an super ultra-conservative, cannot grasp the differences between these ideologies. Your far-right, rigid, live-in-the-past idea of how the country should be run is antiquated and passe.
18th century ideas do not work in the 21st century.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------


I know the daily meaning of the word Progressive, not what PROGRESSIVES would like the population to see.

When a description of their philosophy takes on a sharply negative connotation, they change the description of themselves.  For instance, as you well know, all these words are synonymous with each other.

Socialism morphed to Liberal which morphed to Left which morphed to Far Left, which has morphed to Progressive which, as you know, simply means Socialism.  

For instance, the Congressional PROGRESSIVE Caucus has as one of its founders, Bernie Sanders, the only self acclaimed Socialist in Congress.  Helpful in forming the caucus was the Democratic Socialists of America.

I am curious, why do Progressives keep running from their own identification?[/quote]
I do believe that changing the definitions of words and trying to manipulate what a word means or adopting new words is a tactic of Marxism, isn't it? or was that the communist? all the same to me.

Guest


Guest

. wrote:
Dreamsglore wrote:
Bob wrote:
. wrote:I wont vote for Christy, I don't like him.
Of course you don't like him.  For you to like him he would have to say "obama is a muslim commie".  
Because that's how ignorant you are.  

But what you don't realize is christie is not an obama lover.  He's "an exact clone of bush".  Just ask Sal because he's as ignorant as you are.  lol
You and your busom buddy have a falling out? You don't say?
im not here enough to be anyone's buddy.

why do you worry about it so much, I mean really I not here that much so you seek out anywhere you can to make snide remarks.

you must be bored.
I'm not worried at all. Just asked a question to someone who has defended you countless times. It always ends the same way. Is there anyone you don't turn on eventually?

Guest


Guest

Dreamsglore wrote:
. wrote:
Dreamsglore wrote:
Bob wrote:
. wrote:I wont vote for Christy, I don't like him.
Of course you don't like him.  For you to like him he would have to say "obama is a muslim commie".  
Because that's how ignorant you are.  

But what you don't realize is christie is not an obama lover.  He's "an exact clone of bush".  Just ask Sal because he's as ignorant as you are.  lol
You and your busom buddy have a falling out? You don't say?
im not here enough to be anyone's buddy.

why do you worry about it so much, I mean really I not here that much so you seek out anywhere you can to make snide remarks.

you must be bored.
I'm not worried at all. Just asked a question to someone who has defended you countless times. It always ends the same way. Is there anyone you don't turn on eventually?
bob hasn't defended me. you have selective memory. bob and my online relationship has always been up and down. one minute he wishes my son to die, next we agree on something. always has been that way.

as far as turning on people here lol... you need to understand something. in order to turn on someone you would first have to become part of their clique which is something I gave up a long time ago.

I don't like cliques, being part of a clique means you have to give up part of yourself or ideas as to not offend the clique. Adult peer pressure on a online forum to me has become ridiculous.

Now I know some people here actually hang out with people off line, that is different. But Im not there. I am just a online personality here. I will never meet with people in this room. So there is no friendship. Just online bantering's to fill up the days time. That's it. Smile 

Now you and I are starting to talk to each other too much again. so lets just keep it the way it was. its best that way. I realize you don't want me here and im not hear that much so best to not get into too many confrontations with each other. Ive been nice to you and even commended you on some of your replies lately. so don't start it just because you see me posting and don't like that. Im not stupid. Wink 

Markle

Markle

Floridatexan wrote:
Markle wrote:
doubtingthomas wrote:Again Markle wtf does obama care have to do with Christie?
 
It appears that Sal has a problem with New Jersey spending money allocated to promote New Jersey using their Governor to promote New Jersey.

I am pointing out the hypocrisy of using tens of millions of tax payer dollars to cram a program Americans did not want, up their...throats whether they like it or not.

Sal doesn't have a problem with that spending but he does about New Jersey and he doesn't even live in that state.
Hypocrisy?  You have the absolute gall to use that word?  Who spent trillions on Iraq and Afghanistan?  Eight long years of watching those SOB's lie through their teeth, killing, torturing, making a mockery of our Constitution, international law, MORAL LAW, playing reverse Robin Hood with the economy...WTH?  You live in a glass house, Markle...or whoever you are.
Christie Spending $4.7 Mil of Sandy Relief $$ on Self Promotion - Page 2 CostofWar7312013

http://costofwar.com/

President Barack Hussein Obama's DEFICIT EACH YEAR he has been in office is nearly this amount which goes back to 2001.

How many more 9/11/2001 terrorist attacks should we have absorbed before fighting back?

President Obama's display to the world of weakness and ineptness has INCREASED fatal Islamic terrorist attacks.  How can you defend that situation?

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