Why is the behavior of an insane man endangering the rights of all Americans ?

"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined. The great object is that every man be armed. Every man who is able may have a gun." --Patrick Henry, During Virginia's ratification convention, 1788



If I remember it was a gun that finally stopped the shooter....

http://www.cga.ct.gov/2010/rpt/2010-R-0456.htm

I was going to paste some of this text... but my phone wouldn't for some reason.

TEOTWAWKI wrote:"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined. The great object is that every man be armed. Every man who is able may have a gun." --Patrick Henry, During Virginia's ratification convention, 1788



If I remember it was a gun that finally stopped the shooter....

"The right to bare arm shall not be infringed."

That means anyone can own RPG's, mufti-barreled guns, flame thrower etc.
I don't think any rational person would advocate our citizens being allowed to own them. There are some technologies that are too destructive to allow the general public to own them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster

Thank you for posting the bath school disaster. Like automatic weapons, explosives were easily attainable in the 1920s, but now require a federal explosives license. How many schools have been blown up with explosives? Do you think if every citizen stored explosives in their homes that we would be a safer nation? Do you think stringent regulations of explosives has been a good thing? Do you think Patrick Henry would approve?

This discussion does become silly at times. Common sense requires that we register all guns, update foid card capabilities, and make the same common sense restrictions which do not allow a person to buy thousands of pounds of dynamite and blow up a school. The federal licenses for explosives has saved lifes, and yes.....a Timmothy V. and Mr. Nichols can make their own explosives, but even putting tight controls on those items which made his homemade bomb has lessened the threat. Rational regulations protect, and they seldom infringe a bit on a person's rights, and some weapons or technologies cannot be allowed in the hand of citizens where the inherent danger exceeds the intrusion by society to remove the same.

You think so? I can go to Barnes feed store and buy a 50 pound sack of ammonium nitrate right now. Got any idea how easy it is to make that stuff get ugly quick?

When I was twelve I made my own gun powder...back then it was okay.

Potassium Nitrate
carbon
sulfur

If there is a will... there is a way. Any attempt to rule the crazy/criminal by imposing law on the innocent is evil.

The Oklahoma City bombing was a terrorist bomb attack on the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in downtown Oklahoma City on April 19, 1995. It would remain the most destructive act of terrorism on American soil until the September 11, 2001 attacks. The Oklahoma blast claimed 168 lives, including 19 children under the age of 6,[1] and injured more than 680 people.[2] The blast destroyed or damaged 324 buildings within a sixteen-block radius, destroyed or burned 86 cars, and shattered glass in 258 nearby buildings.[3][4] The bomb was estimated to have caused at least $652 million worth of damage.[5] Extensive rescue efforts were undertaken by local, state, federal, and worldwide agencies in the wake of the bombing, and substantial donations were received from across the country. The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) activated eleven of its Urban Search and Rescue Task Forces, consisting of 665 rescue workers who assisted in rescue and recovery operations.[6][7]

Within 90 minutes of the explosion, Timothy McVeigh was stopped by Oklahoma State Trooper Charlie Hanger for driving without a license plate and arrested for unlawfully carrying a weapon.[8][9] Forensic evidence quickly linked McVeigh and Terry Nichols to the attack; Nichols was arrested,[10] and within days both were charged. Michael and Lori Fortier were later identified as accomplices. McVeigh, an American militia movement sympathizer who was a Gulf War veteran, had detonated an explosive-filled Ryder rental truck parked in front of the building. McVeigh's co-conspirator, Terry Nichols, had assisted in the bomb preparation. Motivated by his hatred of the federal government and angered by what he perceived as its mishandling of the Waco Siege (1993) and the Ruby Ridge incident (1992), McVeigh timed his attack to coincide with the second anniversary of the deadly fire that ended the siege at Waco.[11][12]

The official investigation, known as "OKBOMB", was the largest criminal investigation case in American history; FBI agents conducted 28,000 interviews, amassing 3.5 short tons (3.2 t) of evidence, and collected nearly one billion pieces of information.[13][14][15] The bombers were tried and convicted in 1997. McVeigh was executed by lethal injection on June 11, 2001, and Nichols was sentenced to life in prison. Michael and Lori Fortier testified against McVeigh and Nichols; Michael was sentenced to 12 years in prison for failing to warn the U.S. government, and Lori received immunity from prosecution in exchange for her testimony. As with other large-scale terrorist attacks, conspiracy theories dispute the official claims and allege the involvement of additional perpetrators.

The World Trade Center bombing occurred on February 26, 1993, when a truck bomb was detonated below the North Tower of the World Trade Center in New York, NY. The 1,336 lb (606 kg) urea nitrate–hydrogen gas enhanced device[1] was intended to knock the North Tower (Tower One) into the South Tower (Tower Two), bringing both towers down and killing thousands of people.[2][3] It failed to do so, but did kill six people and injured more than a thousand.[4] The attack was planned by a group of conspirators including Ramzi Yousef, Mahmud Abouhalima, Mohammad Salameh, Nidal A. Ayyad, Abdul Rahman Yasin and Ahmad Ajaj. They received financing from Khaled Sheikh Mohammed, Yousef's uncle. In March 1994, four men were convicted of carrying out the bombing: Abouhalima, Ajaj, Ayyad and Salameh. The charges included conspiracy, explosive destruction of property and interstate transportation of explosives. In November 1997, two more were convicted: Ramzi Yousef, the mastermind behind the bombings, and Eyad Ismoil, who drove the truck carrying the bomb.

Thank God you have to have a Federal explosives license!

That is a good cover story. When will people learn not to trust their criminal government ?

a Timmothy V. and Mr. Nichols can make their own explosives, but even putting tight controls on those items which made his homemade bomb has lessened the threat.-Seaoat


There are no tight controls. Sure you may have to give your name if you BUY alot of it but most terrorists just pull the tin off the side of the feed store at night and load up thousands of pounds for free. Where is the control?

Sal wrote:Gun nuts aren’t defending freedom and long-established constitutional principles.

They’re preserving the profits of gun makers and serving the political ends of oligarchs.

Gun violence is set to surpass car crashes in the amount of carnage it inflicts on Americans.

It's very simply become a matter of public safety and welfare.

Well actually suicide surpassed car wrecks.....just.

Sal wrote:Gun nuts aren’t defending freedom and long-established constitutional principles.

They’re preserving the profits of gun makers and serving the political ends of oligarchs.

Gun violence is set to surpass car crashes in the amount of carnage it inflicts on Americans.

It's very simply become a matter of public safety and welfare.

Got any proof of that hot air or are you just impersonating a blow dryer again?

TEOTWAWKI wrote:

Sal wrote:Gun nuts aren’t defending freedom and long-established constitutional principles.

They’re preserving the profits of gun makers and serving the political ends of oligarchs.

Gun violence is set to surpass car crashes in the amount of carnage it inflicts on Americans.

It's very simply become a matter of public safety and welfare.

Well actually suicide surpassed car wrecks.....just.

Dont confuse em with facts Teo!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMrYeMTXifc

There were two more bombs in the building IN IT. The outside bomb was just a trigger...this was a government operation.....

OOPS ! Lets ban aircraft now! Dammit!



The 2010 Austin suicide attack occurred on 18 February 2010, when Andrew Joseph Stack III, flying his Piper Dakota, crashed into Building I of the Echelon office complex in Austin, Texas, United States,[4] killing himself and Internal Revenue Service manager Vernon Hunter.[5] Thirteen others were injured, two seriously. The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) field office was located in a four-story[6][7] office building along with other state and federal government agencies.[8] Prior to the crash, Stack had posted a suicide note dated 18 February 2010 to his business website.
Contents

1 Incident
2 Pilot
2.1 Suicide note
3 Aftermath
3.1 Economic costs to IRS
4 Reaction
5 See also
6 References
7 External links

Incident

Approximately an hour before the crash, Stack allegedly set fire to his $230,000[9] house located on Dapplegrey Lane in North Austin.[10][11] He then drove to a hangar he rented at Georgetown Municipal Airport, approximately 20 miles to the north.[12] He boarded his single-engine Piper Dakota airplane and was cleared to take off around 9:45 a.m. Central Standard Time.[8][13][14][15] He indicated to the control tower his flight would be "going southbound, sir."[16] After taking off his final words were "thanks for your help, have a great day."[17]

About ten minutes later his plane descended and collided at full speed into Echelon I, a building containing offices for 190 IRS employees, resulting in a large fireball and explosion.[8][18][19] The building is located near the intersection of Research Boulevard (U.S. Route 183) and Mopac Expressway (Loop 1).

Sal wrote:Gun nuts aren’t defending freedom and long-established constitutional principles.

They’re preserving the profits of gun makers and serving the political ends of oligarchs.

Gun violence is set to surpass car crashes in the amount of carnage it inflicts on Americans.

It's very simply become a matter of public safety and welfare.

Dammit...so you are saying everyone that supports gun rights or buys a gun, for whatever reason, is really only doing it to make the gun makers rich and politicians stronger. Amazing how you have it all figured out.

Well thanks to Obama those gun-garchs are getting rich...LOL.

I admit your behavior has been sorta odd lately, but I'll be danged if I understand why it's threatening gun owners.

Are you threatening them w/ a gun...?

That's insane.