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Liberated Iraq calls on Arab states to use oil as 'weapon' against U.S.

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VectorMan

VectorMan

A top Iraqi diplomat urged Arab states to “use the weapon of oil” against the United States because of its alliance with Israel, raising more questions about the Middle Eastern nation's allegiance to the country that freed it from a ruthless dictatorship.
The shocking statement from a democratic government in power only after the U.S. and allies ousted murderous dictator Saddam Hussein in a costly and bloody war laid bare the Middle Eastern nation’s true allegiance.
"Iraq will invite (Arab) ministers to use the weapon of oil, with the aim of asserting real pressure on the United States and whoever stands with Israel," Qais al-Azzawy told reporters in Cairo on Friday.

"The economic weapon is the strongest one to be put into effect now, to assure of standing by the Palestinian people, in light of there being no military power that can stand in the face of Israel at the present time,” he added.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/11/16/liberated-iraq-calls-on-arab-states-to-use-oil-as-weapon-against-us/#ixzz2CVglRTpD

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

Just another reason why Bush should have never invaded the stupid country. It was a waste of hundreds of billions of dollars, and a waste of 5,000+ American lives.

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VectorMan

VectorMan

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:Just another reason why Bush should have never invaded the stupid country. It was a waste of hundreds of billions of dollars, and a waste of 5,000+ American lives.

I agree with the highlighted above. However, we both know it was not ALL Bush's fault. Remember the other politicians that voted for it before they were against it.

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

VectorMan wrote:
ZVUGKTUBM wrote:Just another reason why Bush should have never invaded the stupid country. It was a waste of hundreds of billions of dollars, and a waste of 5,000+ American lives.

I agree with the highlighted above. However, we both know it was not ALL Bush's fault. Remember the other politicians that voted for it before they were against it.

Yes, but it took one idiot to set the whole thing in motion. That would be Bush, or his alter ego, Cheney.

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Floridatexan

Floridatexan


Talk about spin. "Liberated"? I sincerely doubt the Iraqis view it that way.

VectorMan

VectorMan

Floridatexan wrote:
Talk about spin. "Liberated"? I sincerely doubt the Iraqis view it that way.

If one or more of their relatives was raped and terrorized by Sadam's monster children maybe they feel liberated from that. But, I guess that's not important.

Guest


Guest

Atleast the muslim brotherhood isn't running iraq yet.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

VectorMan wrote:
Floridatexan wrote:
Talk about spin. "Liberated"? I sincerely doubt the Iraqis view it that way.

If one or more of their relatives was raped and terrorized by Sadam's monster children maybe they feel liberated from that. But, I guess that's not important.

I suppose you think that new death and destruction is preferable to old death and destruction. We didn't do the Iraqis any favors. To pretend we did is to buy into the whole neocon lie. Bush wanted Saddam: 1) for the oil in Iraq, 2) to avenge the threat against his daddy, and 3) to keep the presidency he and his "base" stole in 2000.

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

Floridatexan wrote:
Talk about spin. "Liberated"? I sincerely doubt the Iraqis view it that way.

I bet many of the Iraqis would have preferred life under Saddam versus the evisceration of their whole country, the wholesale kiilling of 100,000 or more of their citizenry, destruction of infrastructure, destabilization of their society, etc., etc.

On the flip-side, oil production is way-way up in Iraq now, benefiting many U.S. oil companies:

http://www.energyandcapital.com/articles/us-oil-company-deals-in-iraq/2363

"......U.S. oil giant Chevron Corp. (NYSE: CVX) will be purchasing a majority share in two Kurdistan oil exploration blocks soon, the company announced Thursday....."

But, we can't say oil is one of the reasons we invaded, can we?

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Guest


Guest

There were plenty of people that Saddam tortured and killed. One of my old bosses in the military worked in the Coalition Provisional Justice Authority in Baghdad interviewing Iraqis who had these terrible things done to them and their families. Just like the Nazis, Saddam documented a lot of his crimes to keep up with who he had killed and tortured. He had few days when there was not an interview with an Iraqi that had been victimized. One such incident invovled a firewood poker heated to hot red and having it shoved up a person's anus. That's torture and Saddam did a lot of it. Saddam got to die with a lot more dignity than many of the people he killed or had killed. He should have been beaten like Khadaffi was on his last hours here.

Guest


Guest

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:
Floridatexan wrote:
Talk about spin. "Liberated"? I sincerely doubt the Iraqis view it that way.

I bet many of the Iraqis would have preferred life under Saddam versus the evisceration of their whole country, the wholesale kiilling of 100,000 or more of their citizenry, destruction of infrastructure, destabilization of their society, etc., etc.





Not for the Shia, they are loving being able to be in charge of their country instead of being the objects of Saddam's fun and games.

Guest


Guest

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:
VectorMan wrote:
ZVUGKTUBM wrote:Just another reason why Bush should have never invaded the stupid country. It was a waste of hundreds of billions of dollars, and a waste of 5,000+ American lives.

I agree with the highlighted above. However, we both know it was not ALL Bush's fault. Remember the other politicians that voted for it before they were against it.

Yes, but it took one idiot to set the whole thing in motion. That would be Bush, or his alter ego, Cheney.

One idiot put it in motion a whole lot of idiots followed his lead. Kind of like that old adage your parents would say,just because so and so jumps off a cliff would you. Makes you think the people that followed his lead were the bigger idiots.

Markle

Markle

Floridatexan wrote:
Talk about spin. "Liberated"? I sincerely doubt the Iraqis view it that way.

My guess is that they do. They are suffering far fewer civilian fatalities since the beginning of the War on Terror than they did from Saddam Hussein and without the torture.

Like us, they were given freedom and a Democracy, whether or not they can maintain their freedom, is a question which remains to be answered.

We left Iraq according to the time table of President George Walker Bush and President Barack Hussein Obama placed renewed effort on the war along with a surge in troops which was less than what had been requested by Obama's hand picked General on the ground.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

If only after the 1974 oil crisis we had begun the process of eliminating our dependency on muslim oil.
Instead our solution was to increase our dependency on it.
And here we are forty years later with the chickenhakws like Rush Limbaugh still bragging about driving their new 15 mpg Cadillac Escalades and the yahoos in the audience cheering them for being such real he-men.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob


Liberated Iraq calls on Arab states to use oil as 'weapon' against U.S. Dollarsariveiraq372ready

An armed guard poses beside pallets of $100 bills in Baghdad. Almost $12bn in cash was spent by the US-led authority
The US flew nearly $12bn in shrink-wrapped $100 bills into Iraq, then distributed the cash with no proper control over who was receiving it and how it was being spent.
The staggering scale of the biggest transfer of cash in the history of the Federal Reserve has been graphically laid bare by a US congressional committee.

In the year after the invasion of Iraq in 2003 nearly 281 million notes, weighing 363 tonnes, were sent from New York to Baghdad for disbursement to Iraqi ministries and US contractors. Using C-130 planes, the deliveries took place once or twice a month with the biggest of $2,401,600,000 on June 22 2004, six days before the handover.

Details of the shipments have emerged in a memorandum prepared for the meeting of the House committee on oversight and government reform which is examining Iraqi reconstruction. Its chairman, Henry Waxman, a fierce critic of the war, said the way the cash had been handled was mind-boggling. "The numbers are so large that it doesn't seem possible that they're true. Who in their right mind would send 363 tonnes of cash into a war zone?"

The memorandum details the casual manner in which the US-led Coalition Provisional Authority disbursed the money, which came from Iraqi oil sales, surplus funds from the UN oil-for-food programme and seized Iraqi assets.

"One CPA official described an environment awash in $100 bills," the memorandum says. "One contractor received a $2m payment in a duffel bag stuffed with shrink-wrapped bundles of currency. Auditors discovered that the key to a vault was kept in an unsecured backpack.

"They also found that $774,300 in cash had been stolen from one division's vault. Cash payments were made from the back of a pickup truck, and cash was stored in unguarded sacks in Iraqi ministry offices. One official was given $6.75m in cash, and was ordered to spend it in one week before the interim Iraqi government took control of Iraqi funds."

The minutes from a May 2004 CPA meeting reveal "a single disbursement of $500m in security funding labelled merely 'TBD', meaning 'to be determined'."

The memorandum concludes: "Many of the funds appear to have been lost to corruption and waste ... thousands of 'ghost employees' were receiving pay cheques from Iraqi ministries under the CPA's control. Some of the funds could have enriched both criminals and insurgents fighting the United States."

According to Stuart Bowen, the special inspector general for Iraq reconstruction, the $8.8bn funds to Iraqi ministries were disbursed "without assurance the monies were properly used or accounted for". But, according to the memorandum, "he now believes that the lack of accountability and transparency extended to the entire $20bn expended by the CPA".

To oversee the expenditure the CPA was supposed to appoint an independent certified public accounting firm. "Instead the CPA hired an obscure consulting firm called North Star Consultants Inc. The firm was so small that it reportedly operates out of a private home in San Diego." Mr Bowen found that the company "did not perform a review of internal controls as required by the contract".

However, evidence before the committee suggests that senior American officials were unconcerned about the situation because the billions were not US taxpayers' money. Paul Bremer, the head of the CPA, reminded the committee that "the subject of today's hearing is the CPA's use and accounting for funds belonging to the Iraqi people held in the so-called Development Fund for Iraq. These are not appropriated American funds. They are Iraqi funds. I believe the CPA discharged its responsibilities to manage these Iraqi funds on behalf of the Iraqi people."

Bremer's financial adviser, retired Admiral David Oliver, is even more direct. The memorandum quotes an interview with the BBC World Service. Asked what had happened to the $8.8bn he replied: "I have no idea. I can't tell you whether or not the money went to the right things or didn't - nor do I actually think it's important."

Q: "But the fact is billions of dollars have disappeared without trace."

Oliver: "Of their money. Billions of dollars of their money, yeah I understand. I'm saying what difference does it make?"

Mr Bremer, whose disbanding of the Iraqi armed forces and de-Ba'athification programme have been blamed as contributing to the present chaos, told the committee: "I acknowledge that I made mistakes and that with the benefit of hindsight, I would have made some decisions differently. Our top priority was to get the economy moving again. The first step was to get money into the hands of the Iraqi people as quickly as possible."

Millions of civil service families had not received salaries or pensions for months and there was no effective banking system. "It was not a perfect solution," he said. "Delay might well have exacerbated the nascent insurgency and thereby increased the danger to Americans."

Guest


Guest

You just can't trust ragheads.

Guest


Guest

nochain wrote:You just can't trust ragheads.

Doesn't it make everyone feel confident that the Muslim Brotherhood leadership of Egypt is being called upon to broker peace?...Yeah, lets continue killing energy exploration here or the pipeline from an ally to continue to fund Egypt and other countries with BILLIONS of dollars that hate and want to destroy us....Amost asked if we have become that stupid...too late...

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