How Democrats are losing 2020, already: Trump must not win reelection, but the candidates lining up to beat him are giving a good chance

othershoe1030 wrote:Rick Wilson, former Republican strategist was on The 11th Hour program last night. Wilson, author of Everything Trump Touches Dies had advice for Democrats as to how to run (and win) the 2020 election.

It is quite simple and also fits in with Pelosi's current view of impeachment/no impeachment.

Wilson says impeachment would be unwise given the zero chance of removal from office due to conviction in the Senate. Even given a success at removal, we'd be left with Pence.

The best thing to do would be to hold constant hearings to expose this administration's corruption. Run live hearings and make the election about DJT's scandal, incompetency and chaos.

All impeachment hearings would accomplish would be to gin up DJT's base, help him raise money, lend credence to his "coup" claim and end up letting him run as a victim. As Wilson said, Trump can't win the election, but the Democrats can certainly lose it.

I completely agree. The Watergate hearings had viewers glued to their TV's. These hearings would be like the presidential version of the OJ trial. Hard to claim Fake News when people are under oath, although I'm sure they'd try.

Sal wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:Rick Wilson, former Republican strategist was on The 11th Hour program last night. Wilson, author of Everything Trump Touches Dies had advice for Democrats as to how to run (and win) the 2020 election.

It is quite simple and also fits in with Pelosi's current view of impeachment/no impeachment.

Wilson says impeachment would be unwise given the zero chance of removal from office due to conviction in the Senate. Even given a success at removal, we'd be left with Pence.

The best thing to do would be to hold constant hearings to expose this administration's corruption. Run live hearings and make the election about DJT's scandal, incompetency and chaos.

All impeachment hearings would accomplish would be to gin up DJT's base, help him raise money, lend credence to his "coup" claim and end up letting him run as a victim. As Wilson said, Trump can't win the election, but the Democrats can certainly lose it.

I completely agree. The Watergate hearings had viewers glued to their TV's. These hearings would be like the presidential version of the OJ trial. Hard to claim Fake News when people are under oath, although I'm sure they'd try.

"There’s no political inconvenience exception in the Constitution."
- Elizabeth Warren

I completely agree.

othershoe1030 wrote:The best way to defend the Constitution and our civil institutions is to have a thorough public airing out of the corruption and other misdeeds of this administration. We must make sure we continue to shine a light on his actions.

Looking back at past scandals, Watergate, Iran/Contra, they are mostly a blur in the rearview mirror. Going at a moderate rate, holding hearings, exposing this fraudulent administration for what it is will serve the Constitution better in the long run, than jumping onto a path that ends in a dead end with his acquittal in the Senate.

I don't think it is a betrayal of support for the Constitution to hold hearings and further investigations. There are provisions there for those activities too.

RealLindaL wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:The best way to defend the Constitution and our civil institutions is to have a thorough public airing out of the corruption and other misdeeds of this administration. We must make sure we continue to shine a light on his actions.

Looking back at past scandals, Watergate, Iran/Contra, they are mostly a blur in the rearview mirror. Going at a moderate rate, holding hearings, exposing this fraudulent administration for what it is will serve the Constitution better in the long run, than jumping onto a path that ends in a dead end with his acquittal in the Senate.

I don't think it is a betrayal of support for the Constitution to hold hearings and further investigations. There are provisions there for those activities too.

I'm with you, othershoe.  I, too, listened to Warren last night but it didn't sway me from my opinion that impeachment at this point is a pointless and politically dangerous exercise.  Let the investigations commence and/or continue!  All encouragement and support are due the Democratic committees pursuing all this; IF at some point the revelations result in bipartisan support for impeachment, full steam ahead with that option.