The numbers are in: Trump wins Michigan by 10,704

It's official.

The numbers are in: Trump wins Michigan by 10,704
Kathleen Gray , Detroit Free Press Lansing Bureau 2:42 p.m. EST November 24, 2016

http://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/2016/11/23/donald-trump-wins-michigan-votes/94360852/

First Republican to win Michigan since 1988!

Now the Democrats are eager to put the same ol' same ol' back in charge.  Sounds like a great plan to me! Goooo Nancy!

This also extends the Republicans Electoral College LANDSLIDE!  
This brings Donald Trump’s electoral vote total to 306. Hillary Clinton’s is 232.

This also extends the Republicans Electoral College LANDSLIDE!  
This brings Donald Trump’s electoral vote total to 306. Hillary Clinton’s is 232.




There was no electoral landslide, and computer experts are beginning to see irregularity in ballots where there was no paper trail.  Why in 2016 when foreign nations are bragging they can impact our votes do some counties still have electronic voting machines with NO paper ballot for audit.   There is a discussion from election lawyers concerning the contradictions in these electronic only ballots in Florida, Michigan, Wisconsin , and North Carolina.   With almost two million popular vote the statistical variations cannot be explained and the election experts are demanding Hillary challenge the results in these four states, but it is futile.......the plot may have been perfected with no replacement on the Supreme Court and the house picking the president which means Donald Trump is our President despite growing evidence that perhaps statistical gaps require challenges which must be filed this week. The question is have we lost the FBI to follow up on the Russians and can we in fact find out whether what the experts are saying can be traced......landslide....well I am thinking the same....but more in the nature of snow and ice crushing your log cabin boyz.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/11/22/prominent-computer-scientists-election-lawyers-urging-hillary-clinton-challenge-election-results.html

Of course... lol. But weeks ago trump was being slammed in the press over if he would accept the results.

2seaoat wrote:This also extends the Republicans Electoral College LANDSLIDE!  
This brings Donald Trump’s electoral vote total to 306. Hillary Clinton’s is 232.




There was no electoral landslide, and computer experts are beginning to see irregularity in ballots where there was no paper trail.  Why in 2016 when foreign nations are bragging they can impact our votes do some counties still have electronic voting machines with NO paper ballot for audit.   There is a discussion from election lawyers concerning the contradictions in these electronic only ballots in Florida, Michigan, Wisconsin , and North Carolina.   With almost two million popular vote the statistical variations cannot be explained and the election experts are demanding Hillary challenge the results in these four states, but it is futile.......the plot may have been perfected with no replacement on the Supreme Court and the house picking the president which means Donald Trump is our President despite growing evidence that perhaps statistical gaps require challenges which must be filed this week.  The question is have we lost the FBI to follow up on the Russians and can we in fact find out whether what the experts are saying can be traced......landslide....well I am thinking the same....but more in the nature of snow and ice crushing your log cabin boyz.

Bottom line...LANDSLIDE ELECTORAL COLLEGE VICTORY FOR DONALD TRUMP.

What the heck are "statistical gaps"? You lost. Period.

There's really no way to make the popular vote a relative indicator under an electoral college system. In the largest states where the votes are so lopsided there are a large opposition percentage that don't bother voting.

The leftist angst is an apples/oranges red herring. A complete waste of time for useful idiots.

Again, no electoral landslide, and a near landslide in the popular vote, but you are correct........Donald Trump is the President elect.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/jill-stein-to-formally-file-for-wisconsin-recount-as-fundraising-effort-nears-dollar5m/ar-AAkKPWV?li=BBnb7Kz

It will not change a thing. I believed that people simply were too lazy and unconcerned to vote. So why should I be concerned about those who do not care about themselves. Keeping the capital gains tax low is huge for us personally, but not so much for the very people who needed to vote, or the country.

I think they didn't bother voting for an old white corrupt establishment 1%r liar that caters to the elite.

You're to blame for compromising your principles... or not having any... the more likely case.

As a Republican my whole life, I would vote for Hillary Clinton a hundred times when running against a fascist campaign. Now we will see who was right and who was wrong. I hope I am wrong for America's sake, but in any regard there will be no excuses as President Obama will hand off an amazing record which he can build or put us in the chit can.

2seaoat wrote:Again, no electoral landslide, and a near landslide in the popular vote, but you are correct........Donald Trump is the President elect.

Darrell Issa: Trump’s ‘Drain the Swamp’ Mandate Biggest ‘Since Teddy Roosevelt’

Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) told Breitbart News Daily SiriusXM host Matt Boyle Thursday, on the heels of the election of Donald Trump, “I am looking forward to draining the swamp.” He added, “Perhaps since Teddy Roosevelt … nobody’s ridden into town with that kind of a mandate to say business as usual is not going to continue.”

This brings Donald Trump’s electoral vote total to 306. Hillary Clinton’s is 232.

Mandates are not in the vocabulary when you lose the popular vote in this country by 2.1 million and counting. The landslide that President Obama won by was mostly electoral, but he only won by three million......an amount that Hillary is slowly getting near. I think the mandate is clear. The majority of Americans want nothing to do with Donald Trump. This is fun. We are just about on top of the mountain across the board in economic stats, and now all those years of listening to unfounded criticism, the talkers have a chance to act.....the court, the senate, the house, and the President led by a guy who said he was smarter than the generals, and would ship out the undocumented, and ban Muslims.....nothing to stop him from his campaign promises.....nothing.....unless he was not telling the truth.

2seaoat wrote:Mandates are not in the vocabulary when you lose the popular vote in this country by 2.1 million and counting.  The landslide that President Obama won by was mostly electoral, but he only won by three million......an amount that Hillary is slowly getting near.   I think the mandate is clear.   The majority of Americans want nothing to do with Donald Trump.  This is fun.  We are just about on top of the mountain across the board in economic stats, and now all those years of listening to unfounded criticism, the talkers have a chance to act.....the court, the senate, the house, and the President led by a guy who said he was smarter than the generals, and would ship out the undocumented, and ban Muslims.....nothing to stop him from his campaign promises.....nothing.....unless he was not telling the truth.

Yeah it is.

When all those votes came from New York, Chicago, and Los Angeles, they don't matter.

You lost by a landslide, get over it. Now remember what Lame Duck President Barack Hussein Obama told us, "elections have consequences".

Quite the contrary.....look at traditional red states and see how the votes were increased.  Three northern states gave the electoral vote to Donald Trump, and a 10k margin in one of the states you are smoking something.   America did not want Trump.  He won the electoral college.  He will be President.  However, your usual make chit up is consistent.  You realize that 10 western states always vote Republican and that with two Senators, that is 20 electoral votes structurally going to the Republicans, yet their population is not even half of California.  That is not a mandate.   38 million population in California and one Million population in Montana.   A little over 16 million in those ten states, and not even half of the population of California, yet that 20 bonus electoral votes mean that the Democrats have to really get 290 to win the electoral college.   They have consistently done this, but when you lose the blue line of Michigan by 10k votes, it is not a mandate, but simply a structural win where the people of America do NOT want the person who was elected.  I am not saying he is not President.  I am not saying any recounts will change the reality.   I am simply saying that President Trump will have some difficulty overcoming the reality of the worst showing in loss of popular vote in American history.   That fact may mean nothing to you, because in fact you are correct that he has virtually the power of a monarch, but he better perform or the illusion of his candidacy will crash in the reality of his presidency.

2seaoat wrote:Quite the contrary.....look at traditional red states and see how the votes were increased.  Three northern states gave the electoral vote to Donald Trump, and a 10k margin in one of the states you are smoking something.   America did not want Trump.  He won the electoral college.  He will be President.  However, your usual make chit up is consistent.  You realize that 10 western states always vote Republican and that with two Senators, that is 20 electoral votes structurally going to the Republicans, yet their population is not even half of California.  That is not a mandate.   38 million population in California and one Million population in Montana.   A little over 16 million in those ten states, and not even half of the population of California, yet that 20 bonus electoral votes mean that the Democrats have to really get 290 to win the electoral college.   They have consistently done this, but when you lose the blue line of Michigan by 10k votes, it is not a mandate, but simply a structural win where the people of America do NOT want the person who was elected.  I am not saying he is not President.  I am not saying any recounts will change the reality.   I am simply saying that President Trump will have some difficulty overcoming the reality of the worst showing in loss of popular vote in American history.   That fact may mean nothing to you, because in fact you are correct that he has virtually the power of a monarch, but he better perform or the illusion of his candidacy will crash in the reality of his presidency.

Time to get over it. LANDSLIDE VICTORY!

Nothing to get over. I voted for Hillary because she was good for America. President Trump will pass tax privilege which will enrich me, and will not touch capital gains. Not good for America, but landslide......no wonder you sell real estate.....puffing is your skill set, and comprehension is your deficit. A perfect combination for passing out cookies at an open house, but not so good in understanding what comprises a landslide, how economics work, and that the FBI does not convene a grand jury......but keep trying, it is going to be fun over the next year with nobody left to scapegoat for Republican failures.......If President Trump succeeds America succeeds, if he fails......it is the Kenyan's fault.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/11/12/these-3-maps-show-just-how-dominant-republicans-are-in-america-after-tuesday/

When it comes to control of state government, Republicans dominated at record levels during the Obama years. On Tuesday, they somehow managed to become even more dominant.

In part because Americans like a check and balance on their president, in part because Republicans played their cards right, Republicans grabbed more of America's statehouses and governor's mansions during the Obama administration than at any time in the modern era. And they held onto those majorities Tuesday.

Results are still trickling in, but it looks like Republicans will still control an all-time high 69 of 99 state legislative chambers. They'll hold at least 33 governorships, tying a 94-year-old record.

That means that come 2017, they'll have total control of government in at least 25 states, and partial control in 20 states. According to population calculations by the conservative group Americans for Tax Reform, that translates to roughly 80 percent of the population living in a state either all or partially controlled by Republicans.


Things are just as good for the GOP at the federal level, where Republicans have reached the trifecta. They just won the White House, they've kept their majorities in Congress and they have a chance to reshape the Supreme Court to a strong conservative ideological leaning.

Democrats, meanwhile, will go into 2017 without any significant gains in Congress and with total control of just five states.

You are right.....they will get their chance without any excuses. We agree. Who will be blamed when the median income falls again. The record economic accomplishments of President Obama......not going to work.....his scapegoat days are over.....now the historians will set things straight.

2seaoat wrote:Nothing to get over.  I voted for Hillary because she was good for America.  President Trump will pass tax privilege which will enrich me, and will not touch capital gains.  Not good for America, but landslide......no wonder you sell real estate.....puffing is your skill set, and comprehension is your deficit.  A perfect combination for passing out cookies at an open house, but not so good in understanding what comprises a landslide, how economics work, and that the FBI does not convene a grand jury......but keep trying, it is going to be fun over the next year with nobody left to scapegoat for Republican failures.......If President Trump succeeds America succeeds, if he fails......it is the Kenyan's fault.

Hillary Clinton would have meant four years of the same ol', same ol' PLUS we'd have been embroiled constantly in major investigations, indictments, corruption, and corruption.  

But you're right about any failure, we can simply follow the lead of Lame Duck President Barack Hussein Obama and blame his predecessor for eight years.

It's funny to recall the leftist talkingpoints from earlier in the year... the pub party is falling apart... going extinct... as good as dead. lol... remember that comrades? I didn't think so. Instead we see the rejection of the leftist/socialist ideas... their control of states and at the federal level is at historic lows.

Couldn't happen to a more smug and less self-aware bunch.