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Trump threatens to sue NY Times. Times says: "Go fuck yourself."

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Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Markle wrote:
boards of FL wrote:I'll be honest, gatorfan.  I'm really not that concerned with a politician engaging in consensual affairs.  Having an affair is bad, of course, but if I were to be concerned with that in politics it is an unfortunate truth that that would likely exclude the majority of politicians outright - particularly Donald Trump.  In fact, I just sort of assume that most politicians are engaging in consensual affairs.

So let's put the consensual affairs aside, and we're left with three allegations of sexual assault for Bill Clinton.  Nearly $80 million was spent on independent investigations of these allegations and two were deemed to be unlikely:  Paula Jones and Kathleen Willey.  Juanita Broaddrick is the one that could be taken most seriously out of the three, though as your own link concedes there were inconsistencies in her story which cast doubt on the accusation.  Then again, she has friends backing her up which would seem to bolster the accusation.  But my point is at the end of the day, we have one accusation to take seriously and it isn't exactly certain that it is truthful.  On the other hand, we have Donald Trump in his own words confessing - bragging - about sexually assaulting women and walking in on them in dressing rooms while they're naked.  Then we have those women coming out and corroborating his claims.  This puts the accusations of Donald Trump in an entirely separate universe from those of Clinton.

And I'm not surprised that this must be explained to you, analysis boy.

As you know, Bill Clinton is a rapist and has committed sexual assault.

Had Donald Trump done anything like that, being a billionaire, why didn't Gloria Alred, or whoever, jump up and sue him for a gigantic payday?

Try and keep up with events. Allred is representing one of the women who claims she was assaulted by Trump. The implication is clear: a lawsuit against Trump is probably in the works.

Markle

Markle

boards of FL wrote:I'll be honest, gatorfan.  I'm really not that concerned with a politician engaging in consensual affairs.  Having an affair is bad, of course, but if I were to be concerned with that in politics it is an unfortunate truth that that would likely exclude the majority of politicians outright - particularly Donald Trump.  In fact, I just sort of assume that most politicians are engaging in consensual affairs.

So let's put the consensual affairs aside, and we're left with three allegations of sexual assault for Bill Clinton.  Nearly $80 million was spent on independent investigations of these allegations and two were deemed to be unlikely:  Paula Jones and Kathleen Willey.  Juanita Broaddrick is the one that could be taken most seriously out of the three, though as your own link concedes there were inconsistencies in her story which cast doubt on the accusation.  Then again, she has friends backing her up which would seem to bolster the accusation.  But my point is at the end of the day, we have one accusation to take seriously and it isn't exactly certain that it is truthful.  On the other hand, we have Donald Trump in his own words confessing - bragging - about sexually assaulting women and walking in on them in dressing rooms while they're naked.  Then we have those women coming out and corroborating his claims.  This puts the accusations of Donald Trump in an entirely separate universe from those of Clinton.

And I'm not surprised that this must be explained to you, analysis boy.

Obviously, the Starr Investigation needs to be explained to you as you make a desperate effort to re-write history. Why do you believe it is a good thing to lie about such things?

William
Jefferson Clinton, Former President of the United States and Democrat

Sexual Assault

Rape

Gennifer Flowers (Unknown settlement)

Paula Jones ($850,000 settlement)

Kathleen Willey (Unknown settlement)

Juanita Broaddrick (Unknown settlement)

Monica Lewinsky….(“I did not have sex with THAT woman”)

Perjury

Impeachment

Loss of Law License

$50,000 fine

Whitewater

Arkansas Gov. Jim Guy Tucker - fraud felony convictions - 3 counts (Tucker
resigned facing impeachment)

Jim McDougal - fraud and conspiracy felony convictions - 18 counts

Susan McDougal - felony - 4 counts (pardoned during Clinton's last minute
pardongate payoffs)

William J. Marks Sr - conspiracy

Stephen Smith - conspiracy

Larry Kuca - Fraud

Neal Ainley - 2 misdemeanors for embezzlement

David Hale - guilty plea - conspiracy

Chris Wade - felony -

Whitewater real-estate investor John Haley - recent!

1998 on fraud Robert Palmer - felony for conspiracy Charles Matthews - guilty
plea for bribery Eugene Fitzhugh -

Whitewater - bribery Webster Hubbell - #2 ranking Justice Dept. Official -
felony for embezzlement and fraud

John Latham - CEO of Madison Bank - bank fraud Campaign

Finance: Johnny Chung - Clinton cronie - felony guilty plea - funneling money
from China

Gene Lum - convicted - felony for money laundering for the DNC

Nora Lum - convicted - felony for money laundering for the DNC

Howard Glicken - guilty plea - 2 midemeanors - funneling foreign donations

Yah Lin "Charlie" Trie - guilty plea - illegal Clinton campaign
donations

John Huang - Clinton cronie - felony guilty plea - funneling money from China

Paula Jonesgate: William Jefferson Clinton - found guilty - civil contempt of
court - lying under oath about material facts. The Office of the Independent
Council further presented Clinton with an agreement that had him disbarred from practicing law for 5 years and made him sign a statement admitting to his deception.

Post Administration

Sandy Bergergate Sandy Berger – Clinton National Security Adviser -- found
guilty of stealing highly class documents from the National Archive and
destroying them.

Telstar

Telstar

Markle

Markle

Wordslinger wrote:
Markle wrote:
boards of FL wrote:I'll be honest, gatorfan.  I'm really not that concerned with a politician engaging in consensual affairs.  Having an affair is bad, of course, but if I were to be concerned with that in politics it is an unfortunate truth that that would likely exclude the majority of politicians outright - particularly Donald Trump.  In fact, I just sort of assume that most politicians are engaging in consensual affairs.

So let's put the consensual affairs aside, and we're left with three allegations of sexual assault for Bill Clinton.  Nearly $80 million was spent on independent investigations of these allegations and two were deemed to be unlikely:  Paula Jones and Kathleen Willey.  Juanita Broaddrick is the one that could be taken most seriously out of the three, though as your own link concedes there were inconsistencies in her story which cast doubt on the accusation.  Then again, she has friends backing her up which would seem to bolster the accusation.  But my point is at the end of the day, we have one accusation to take seriously and it isn't exactly certain that it is truthful.  On the other hand, we have Donald Trump in his own words confessing - bragging - about sexually assaulting women and walking in on them in dressing rooms while they're naked.  Then we have those women coming out and corroborating his claims.  This puts the accusations of Donald Trump in an entirely separate universe from those of Clinton.

And I'm not surprised that this must be explained to you, analysis boy.

As you know, Bill Clinton is a rapist and has committed sexual assault.

Had Donald Trump done anything like that, being a billionaire, why didn't Gloria Alred, or whoever, jump up and sue him for a gigantic payday?

Try and keep up with events.  Allred is representing one of the women who claims she was assaulted by Trump.  The implication is clear: a lawsuit against Trump is probably in the works.  

EVEN YOU have to admit that anytime a scandal breaks involving people, Anyone who gets between Gloria Alred and a camera will get HURT! Once she appears on camera with whoever she "represents" she's not heard from until the next troll comes along.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Markle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
Markle wrote:
boards of FL wrote:I'll be honest, gatorfan.  I'm really not that concerned with a politician engaging in consensual affairs.  Having an affair is bad, of course, but if I were to be concerned with that in politics it is an unfortunate truth that that would likely exclude the majority of politicians outright - particularly Donald Trump.  In fact, I just sort of assume that most politicians are engaging in consensual affairs.

So let's put the consensual affairs aside, and we're left with three allegations of sexual assault for Bill Clinton.  Nearly $80 million was spent on independent investigations of these allegations and two were deemed to be unlikely:  Paula Jones and Kathleen Willey.  Juanita Broaddrick is the one that could be taken most seriously out of the three, though as your own link concedes there were inconsistencies in her story which cast doubt on the accusation.  Then again, she has friends backing her up which would seem to bolster the accusation.  But my point is at the end of the day, we have one accusation to take seriously and it isn't exactly certain that it is truthful.  On the other hand, we have Donald Trump in his own words confessing - bragging - about sexually assaulting women and walking in on them in dressing rooms while they're naked.  Then we have those women coming out and corroborating his claims.  This puts the accusations of Donald Trump in an entirely separate universe from those of Clinton.

And I'm not surprised that this must be explained to you, analysis boy.

As you know, Bill Clinton is a rapist and has committed sexual assault.

Had Donald Trump done anything like that, being a billionaire, why didn't Gloria Alred, or whoever, jump up and sue him for a gigantic payday?

Try and keep up with events.  Allred is representing one of the women who claims she was assaulted by Trump.  The implication is clear: a lawsuit against Trump is probably in the works.  

EVEN YOU have to admit that anytime a scandal breaks involving people, Anyone who gets between Gloria Alred and a camera will get HURT!  Once she appears on camera with whoever she "represents" she's not heard from until the next troll comes along.


congratulations ... you never do run out of bullshit. Allred does use the public eye, but her firm produces a very high volume of lawsuits, most of which they appear to win.

Markle

Markle

Wordslinger wrote:
Markle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
Markle wrote:
boards of FL wrote:I'll be honest, gatorfan.  I'm really not that concerned with a politician engaging in consensual affairs.  Having an affair is bad, of course, but if I were to be concerned with that in politics it is an unfortunate truth that that would likely exclude the majority of politicians outright - particularly Donald Trump.  In fact, I just sort of assume that most politicians are engaging in consensual affairs.

So let's put the consensual affairs aside, and we're left with three allegations of sexual assault for Bill Clinton.  Nearly $80 million was spent on independent investigations of these allegations and two were deemed to be unlikely:  Paula Jones and Kathleen Willey.  Juanita Broaddrick is the one that could be taken most seriously out of the three, though as your own link concedes there were inconsistencies in her story which cast doubt on the accusation.  Then again, she has friends backing her up which would seem to bolster the accusation.  But my point is at the end of the day, we have one accusation to take seriously and it isn't exactly certain that it is truthful.  On the other hand, we have Donald Trump in his own words confessing - bragging - about sexually assaulting women and walking in on them in dressing rooms while they're naked.  Then we have those women coming out and corroborating his claims.  This puts the accusations of Donald Trump in an entirely separate universe from those of Clinton.

And I'm not surprised that this must be explained to you, analysis boy.

As you know, Bill Clinton is a rapist and has committed sexual assault.

Had Donald Trump done anything like that, being a billionaire, why didn't Gloria Alred, or whoever, jump up and sue him for a gigantic payday?

Try and keep up with events.  Allred is representing one of the women who claims she was assaulted by Trump.  The implication is clear: a lawsuit against Trump is probably in the works.  

EVEN YOU have to admit that anytime a scandal breaks involving people, Anyone who gets between Gloria Alred and a camera will get HURT!  Once she appears on camera with whoever she "represents" she's not heard from until the next troll comes along.


Congratulations ... you never do run out of bullshit.  Allred does use the public eye, but her firm produces a very high volume of lawsuits, most of which they appear to win.  

Filing a lot of lawsuits does not define a great attorney or law firm. It's, as you know, a numbers game. File enough lawsuits and the majority will settle because it is less expensive than litigation.

That is a major reason for tort reform and adopting a system similar to Great Britain. Loser pays.

The vast majority of lawsuits would never be filed if that were the case. Someone files a lawsuit and it goes to court, they lose, THEY pay all the losers court costs and legal fees.

How many slip and fall attorneys would be filing reams of lawsuits on a contingency agreement would NOT be filed because the attorney knows there is a great chance they won't get paid PLUS their client is stuck for huge legal and court costs.

Guest


Guest

Often the damage is done just by the accusation.

Unless it's a dem of course... then even proof doesn't matter.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

PkrBum wrote:Often the damage is done just by the accusation.

Unless it's a dem of course... then even proof doesn't matter.

Get real. Trump on camera bragged that because he was a star, he could get away with kissing and molesting women (grabbing their pussy), etc.

Then a trainload of women start telling their dreadful stories of Trump's sexual abuse.

Accusations my ass. However, now that your favorite candidate has driven off more than enough women voters to guarantee his loss, it gives me pleasure to look forward to your forthcoming suffering.

Sal

Sal

PkrBum wrote:Often the damage is done just by the accusation.


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Markle

Markle

PkrBum wrote:Often the damage is done just by the accusation.

Unless it's a dem of course... then even proof doesn't matter.

For Democrats, each conviction, ethics hearing, manslaughter, video's of doing crack with a hooker becomes another merit badge for their resume.

Telstar

Telstar

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Markle

Markle

Wordslinger wrote:
PkrBum wrote:Often the damage is done just by the accusation.

Unless it's a dem of course... then even proof doesn't matter.

Get real.  Trump on camera bragged that because he was a star, he could get away with kissing and molesting women (grabbing their pussy), etc.  

Then a trainload of women start telling their dreadful stories of Trump's sexual abuse.

Accusations my ass.  However, now that your favorite candidate has driven off more than enough women voters to guarantee his loss, it gives me pleasure to look forward to your forthcoming suffering.    

You've really lost your edge of late my Socialist/Communist good friend.

There was no video, it was an audio.  Catch up my boy.

Trainload?  How amusing.  Much like former President Bill Clinton or Ted Kennedy?

This is all you have?  All you can cling onto?  An audio of a couple of guys shooting the bull a decade ago.

Step up your game a bit!

Telstar

Telstar

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Guest


Guest

Wordslinger wrote:
PkrBum wrote:Often the damage is done just by the accusation.

Unless it's a dem of course... then even proof doesn't matter.

Get real.  Trump on camera bragged that because he was a star, he could get away with kissing and molesting women (grabbing their pussy), etc.  

Then a trainload of women start telling their dreadful stories of Trump's sexual abuse.

Accusations my ass.  However, now that your favorite candidate has driven off more than enough women voters to guarantee his loss, it gives me pleasure to look forward to your forthcoming suffering.    

Are you seriously so dense that you don't know my position on Trump? You've compromised your principles... I haven't. I will not vote for trump... period. Try to keep up.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Markle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
PkrBum wrote:Often the damage is done just by the accusation.

Unless it's a dem of course... then even proof doesn't matter.

Get real.  Trump on camera bragged that because he was a star, he could get away with kissing and molesting women (grabbing their pussy), etc.  

Then a trainload of women start telling their dreadful stories of Trump's sexual abuse.

Accusations my ass.  However, now that your favorite candidate has driven off more than enough women voters to guarantee his loss, it gives me pleasure to look forward to your forthcoming suffering.    

You've really lost your edge of late my Socialist/Communist good friend.

There was no video, it was an audio.  Catch up my boy.

Trainload?  How amusing.  Much like former President Bill Clinton or Ted Kennedy?

This is all you have?  All you can cling onto?  An audio of a couple of guys shooting the bull a decade ago.

Step up your game a bit!


Face it my fascist-racist friend, in addition to being your moral hero, Trump is a sleazy creep. The audio-video which recorded your idol's priceless admissions, broke the back of his evil campaign. I don't have to step up my game -- your team keeps stumbling all on their own! LOL

Sal

Sal

PkrBum wrote:
Are you seriously so dense that you don't know my position on Trump? You've compromised your principles... I haven't. I will not vote for trump... period. Try to keep up.


Your position on Clinton is that of a peddler of malicious conspiracy theories, false narratives, and absurdly inappropriate equivalencies.

Therefore, your position on Trump is that of an enabler.

Congrats, Herr PkrBum.



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RealLindaL



Sal wrote:
You position on Clinton is that of a peddler of malicious conspiracy theories, false narratives, and absurdly inappropriate equivalencies.

Therefore, your position on Trump is that of an enabler.

I hadn't thought of it exactly that way, but I fear Sal is correct here, Pkr.

Guest


Guest

RealLindaL wrote:
Sal wrote:
You position on Clinton is that of a peddler of malicious conspiracy theories, false narratives, and absurdly inappropriate equivalencies.

Therefore, your position on Trump is that of an enabler.

I hadn't thought of it exactly that way, but I fear Sal is correct here, Pkr.

No... y'all are compromising. That's what enables the nomination of the worst choice in our history. If we could reject both of them then there could actually be change and with determination... solutions. Trump has the same chance Bernie had... none. She has the establishment machine, the ruling elite, the monied, and the press... y'all are just the choir.

RealLindaL



PkrBum wrote:
RealLindaL wrote:
Sal wrote:
You position on Clinton is that of a peddler of malicious conspiracy theories, false narratives, and absurdly inappropriate equivalencies.

Therefore, your position on Trump is that of an enabler.

I hadn't thought of it exactly that way, but I fear Sal is correct here, Pkr.

No... y'all are compromising. That's what enables the nomination of the worst choice in our history. If we could reject both of them then there could actually be change and with determination... solutions. Trump has the same chance Bernie had... none. She has the establishment machine, the ruling elite, the monied, and the press... y'all are just the choir.

But here's the thing, Pkr:  We CAN'T reject both of them now -- that's pie in the sky thinking.  One of these two is going to be our next president, period the end!  And if you think Trump has no chance,  you're ignoring history that says he could very well surprise us, heaven forbid.   If you can't select the lesser of two evils -- regardless of party -- after everything you've seen and heard about the individuals, then you may as well not vote at all, IMHO.  Any other vote could kick things in one direction or the other and you have no idea which way that would go.  No control over the outcome of your vote!! At least, if you vote for one or the other, you have made a studied, deliberate, and meaningful controlled impact on the two-person race, which is the ONLY race that matters now.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

PkrBum wrote:
RealLindaL wrote:
Sal wrote:
You position on Clinton is that of a peddler of malicious conspiracy theories, false narratives, and absurdly inappropriate equivalencies.

Therefore, your position on Trump is that of an enabler.

I hadn't thought of it exactly that way, but I fear Sal is correct here, Pkr.

No... y'all are compromising. That's what enables the nomination of the worst choice in our history. If we could reject both of them then there could actually be change and with determination... solutions. Trump has the same chance Bernie had... none. She has the establishment machine, the ruling elite, the monied, and the press... y'all are just the choir.

First of all, Trump is nothing like Sanders. And, secondly, you still to my knowledge haven't indicated who has your vote. Just bashing Clinton won't really get you far...plus, it's obvious to anyone that she has the qualifications for the job...many would say she's overqualified...but Trump is and always was a joke of a candidate, and it now appears he's planning exactly what Seaoat predicted...a foray into a TV network...similar to what Palin tried to do.

Sal

Sal

PkrBum wrote:

No... y'all are compromising. That's what enables the nomination of the worst choice in our history. If we could reject both of them then there could actually be change and with determination... solutions.

This view is completely divorced from the reality in which we are living.

In that sense, it's entirely consistent with the rest of your glibertarian way of thinking.

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

Wordslinger wrote:Face it my fascist-racist friend, in addition to being your moral hero, Trump is a sleazy creep.  The audio-video which recorded your idol's priceless admissions, broke the back of his evil campaign.  I don't have to step up my game -- your team keeps stumbling all on their own!  LOL

They have been stumbling since before the first debates between 16 hopefuls, who were winnowed down to one--Trump.

The Republican defeat of 2016 was about 15 months in the making.

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