Ike was a great President

2seaoat wrote:T, your source is bogus. Yes, there were deaths in American prison camps, and my link shows you that there were also cold blooded murder. My uncle Manfred served in the German army and was a prisoner at the end of the war. My uncle Art served in the American army. My daughter 10 years ago had my Grandmother's letters translated which were sent to my uncle, and my father. She had pure hatred for America because of the bombing of hospitals in Stutgard and the bombing of civilian housing. It was a huge divide in the family as my Uncle Art never reconciled with his brother, and he never saw his mother again as she died of breast cancer in the early 50s. Her letters were powerful and Retired Leo who also was one generation German would share his family views of the war......and yes America was brutal, but my Uncle's treatment was always good under his imprisonment by the Americans, and again, I think there are examples of mistreatment, but this is another huge conspiracy paradigm which is out of proportion to reality.

It was an eye opener to read my grandmothers words. She just kept repeating how could a civilized nation bomb hospitals. I never met my grandmother who died when I was two. I do know that the war created a huge family divide, and my Grandmother begged to see my Uncle Art's children who were older than me, and my uncle just would not have any contact with my Grandmother, and would not even send pictures of the Children and she died a painful death from Breast cancer living with my Uncle Manfred who owned a successful automotive painting company in Stutgard. My father did meet with her in Paris after the war, but his brother would have nothing to do with Manfred, or his mother.

So when I see this fraudulent blogs which extrapolate nonsense from real abuses, it makes me angry. It was a powerful revelation my daughter discovered in those letters, and I had always thought of World War II as a noble American cause.....but from the eyes of those civilians who saw the carnage of friends and family being killed in hospitals.....it is a somber discovery, but to have false nonsense passed as truth........sorry, My Uncle Manfred's experience was closer to the reality, but that is not to deny that cold blooded murder did happen.....it always does, but not on the scale your link suggests.

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Floridatexan wrote:I'm half German on my dad's side, but I think most of my family left Germany either before or immediately after WWI. I can not imagine any of my family members participating in what you describe. However, I have heard first-hand accounts from one of my elderly German neighbors of the hatred directed toward her family here in Pensacola after WWII. I remember no such hatred growing up in South Texas, surrounded by extended family, all of whom were hardworking, friendly and extremely courteous.

Yes, Ike was a great President, Seaoat, but the 1950's were far from idyllic, especially for women and blacks.

I have no doubt that there were some incidences of payback from American GI's to German POW's, but Ike was too moral of a man to have done the things described in your article. I just don't believe it.

i can imagine you determining people you disagree with as being enemies of the State... taking away their right to arms and free speech. hell... the germans didn't instantly decide that hitler had it right... they were slowly indoctrinated to accept it. you wouldn't even be a challenge.

Slicef18 wrote:Ike was indeed a very good President and a visionary who saw Americas need for a better highway system than the 2 lane system that comprised the bulk of our highways. Ike was always the gentleman whether in the company of modest or wealthy people. Fishing was one of his passions and he would often visit his friend Howard Young in the north woods and lakes of Minocqua, Wisconsin. Howard Young's estate was a vista, high on the banks of the Tomahawk River. As Ike health started to deteriorate, his friend Howard Young had a motorized chair installed from the hill top down to the boat house so Ike could still go fishing. Lastly, during those simple and prosperous years in America, the top income rate for America's wealthy was in the 90's percent.

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Slicef18 wrote:Ike was indeed a very good President and a visionary who saw Americas need for a better highway system than the 2 lane system that comprised the bulk of our highways. Ike was always the gentleman whether in the company of modest or wealthy people. Fishing was one of his passions and he would often visit his friend Howard Young in the north woods and lakes of Minocqua, Wisconsin. Howard Young's estate was a vista, high on the banks of the Tomahawk River. As Ike health started to deteriorate, his friend Howard Young had a motorized chair installed from the hill top down to the boat house so Ike could still go fishing. Lastly, during those simple and prosperous years in America, the top income rate for America's wealthy was in the 90's percent.

slice, don't get upset but I gotta ask, has anyone ever told you your pic looks like Dick Cheney on a hunting trip? I'm for real . . .

Slicef18 wrote:

knothead wrote:

Slicef18 wrote:Ike was indeed a very good President and a visionary who saw Americas need for a better highway system than the 2 lane system that comprised the bulk of our highways. Ike was always the gentleman whether in the company of modest or wealthy people. Fishing was one of his passions and he would often visit his friend Howard Young in the north woods and lakes of Minocqua, Wisconsin. Howard Young's estate was a vista, high on the banks of the Tomahawk River. As Ike health started to deteriorate, his friend Howard Young had a motorized chair installed from the hill top down to the boat house so Ike could still go fishing. Lastly, during those simple and prosperous years in America, the top income rate for America's wealthy was in the 90's percent.

slice, don't get upset but I gotta ask, has anyone ever told you your pic looks like Dick Cheney on a hunting trip? I'm for real . . .

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I have heard for many years that I look like Spenser Tracy. Had one lady tell me I was in fact Spenser Tracy. I told her my name is Richard and he was my 18 year older brother and we call him Spence at home. I told her mom always said we looked alike. I said Spence went into acting and I went into law-enforcement. (You know Richard Tracy aka Dick Tracy) She didn't get it.

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Slicef18 wrote:

knothead wrote:

Slicef18 wrote:Ike was indeed a very good President and a visionary who saw Americas need for a better highway system than the 2 lane system that comprised the bulk of our highways. Ike was always the gentleman whether in the company of modest or wealthy people. Fishing was one of his passions and he would often visit his friend Howard Young in the north woods and lakes of Minocqua, Wisconsin. Howard Young's estate was a vista, high on the banks of the Tomahawk River. As Ike health started to deteriorate, his friend Howard Young had a motorized chair installed from the hill top down to the boat house so Ike could still go fishing. Lastly, during those simple and prosperous years in America, the top income rate for America's wealthy was in the 90's percent.

slice, don't get upset but I gotta ask, has anyone ever told you your pic looks like Dick Cheney on a hunting trip? I'm for real . . .

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I have heard for many years that I look like Spenser Tracy. Had one lady tell me I was in fact Spenser Tracy. I told her my name is Richard and he was my 18 year older brother and we call him Spence at home. I told her mom always said we looked alike. I said Spence went into acting and I went into law-enforcement. (You know Richard Tracy aka Dick Tracy) She didn't get it.

Thanks slice, cute story about Spencer Tracy but I assume no one else thinks your appearance looks so much like Darth Vader?