I watch the propaganda every night on Fox. I just saw a person who was countering the Fox propaganda with a logical truthful counter to what the hosts had presented......and bam.......they lose the feed.....it was incredible. They talk over anybody who does not stay true to the talking points. For the uninformed who continuously gobble this up, they lose any ability for free thinking, and certainly cannot listen to another person discussing issues with facts and context. My wife and I always will let somebody state their position, and then respectfully ask questions, and let them build a house of cards which without exception they blow down themselves without us ever having to argue. Simple questions to try to understand the propaganda they have absorbed is easy to make them see inconsistencies, and as long as you do not frontally attack the same and shut the conversation down, you can get people to think.