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Sal

Sal

... again.

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/201508

boards of FL

boards of FL

Clearly they are being paid by the UN to produce this nonsense, and have been for the last 30+ years. It's, like, a conspiracy, or something.

Cough cough.


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I found the solution to global warming. Get a big tall full magnolia tree like mine above your backyard patio. Works wonders for global warming.
I'm sitting under it right now in the hottest part of the day and doing so very comfortably.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

And while you're at it,  get behind a good socialist thing why don't you.
Pass a socialist law which prohibits capitalists/free enterprisers/private property owners from clear cutting the trees in shopping centers and other commercial parking lots.
Force them by law to leave the trees there for shade.  And make the law be federal,  state or local,  I couldn't care less.  I'll support socialism like that 100%.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

And if anybody tells you we can't do this because Ronald Reagan said trees cause air pollution,  tell them to kiss off and go watch Bedtime For Bonzo.

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Guest

Garbage in... garbage out.

http://www.commdiginews.com/featured...xamined-46929/

Finally, in late 2013, the International Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) acknowledged the existence of the pause, renaming it a “hiatus” from global warming. Since then, at least 50 papers have appeared in the scientific literature explaining where the missing heat went.

The existence of a 17-year, unanticipated “hiatus” in the face of rapidly increasing CO emissions is jeopardizing the AGW theory. Fifty different concocted explanations for the unexpected, unpredicted disappearance of warming doesn’t help.

In steps Karl to the rescue. He and his co-authors reanalyzed the Extended Reconstructed Sea Surface Temperature (ERSSTv4) dataset. Seventy percent of earth’s surface and 90 percent of its surface heat is tied to oceans.

The graph above compares the reanalyzed dataset with the previous version (ERSSTv3b). The reanalyzed version creates global warming after 2004 where little had previously existed. In one fell swoop, the “hiatus” just disappears.

The main reason for that is that Karl added 0.12°C to all Argo buoy temperature readings and gave them added weighting when calculating the reanalyzed dataset, according to a critique of Karl’s paper by Dr. Ross McKitrick.

The Argo array and ship-based temperature measurements are in disagreement. Argo’s temperatures are colder than ship-based temperatures and show no sea surface temperature increases since its earliest measurements began. Karl’s change to Argo data increases global temperatures after 2004, when Argo buoys started showing up in large numbers. The Argo network went fully operational in late 2007 with 3,000 floats in place.

The international Argo array is a wonder of modern climate science technology. It consists of nearly 3,900 specially designed buoys distributed in oceans all over the world. Each self-contained robotic buoy records ocean temperature, salinity and ocean drift to a depth of 6,500 feet. They normally free float at 3,000 feet. Every 10 days they dive to depth and then return to the surface, taking measurements all along the way. Once surfaced, they automatically upload their collected data via satellite into a global database.

Argo is specifically designed for climate science. Ship-based measurements are not. Ships have taken measurements in many different ways over the years. Most modern-day water temperature readings from ships are taken from boiler room water intakes not designed for rigorous scientific purposes. Those have a built-in heat bias.

INSTEAD OF LOGICALLY RECALIBRATING THE LESS RELIABLE SHIP-BASED DATA TO MATCH THE ARGO DATA, KARL ALTERS THE ARGO DATA TO MATCH THE SHIP-BASED INSTRUMENTS.

It’s hard to see visually in the above ERSST comparison, but trend analysis shows older temperature data BEFORE1976 —was adjusted slightly DOWNWARD, while data were adjusted UPWARD AFTER 2004 in the reanalysis. Measurements after 1976 are also adjusted upward. THAT CONVENIENTLY INCREASES THE SLOPE OF GLOBAL WARMING IN FAVOR OF AGW THEORY.

The Karl paper came out in June. In less than two months, its results and methods have been incorporated into virtually all major ground-based global temperature databases.

THE ARGO ARRAY ITSELF SHOWS NO WARMING SINCE 1997. Satellite-based global sea surface data, unaffected by Karl’s results, show NO WARMING IN THE LOWER TROPOSPHERE SINCE 1997. They all support the existence of the hiatus.

Clearly, either Argo and the satellites are wrong, or Karl’s reanalysis is wrong. The hiatus is either real or it is not.

This much is certain, though: The science is not settled.

Sal

Sal

No hiatus ...

http://news.stanford.edu/news/2015/september/global-warming-hiatus-091715.html

boards of FL

boards of FL

PkrBum wrote:Garbage in... garbage out.

http://www.commdiginews.com/featured...xamined-46929/



Yes.  We should ignore NOAA research in favor of a broken link produced by a guy who can't even coherently explain his own subjective beliefs on climate science.  

It makes so much sense...if you're an idiot!


NOAA - Hottest August, Hottest Summer, Hottest Year to Date ... 2MTLkBu


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An apparent lull in the recent rate of global warming that has been widely accepted as fact is actually an artifact arising from faulty statistical methods, an interdisciplinary team of Stanford scientists says.

Let me see if I can get this right.....the folks at Stanford debunking faulty statistical methodology, or PK cutting and pasting nonsense.........this is a close one.......I may have to think on this when I am cutting the grass, but its too damn hot out there so maybe give me 10 minutes in the air conditioning to get my wits about me on this close call.....PK or Stanford....damn this is hard.

Guest


Guest

This is your "science"... on one hand we are an array of ocean instruments specifically designed to measure ocean temperatures and satellite instruments that measures the troposphere... on the other we have random boat temp sensors.

Which would you find more reliable? Because karl decided to adjust the argo array and satellite measurements.

How convenient... eh comrade.

Sal

Sal

PkrBum wrote:This is your "science"... on one hand we are an array of ocean instruments specifically designed to measure ocean temperatures and satellite instruments that measures the troposphere... on the other we have random boat temp sensors.

Which would you find more reliable? Because karl decided to adjust the argo array and satellite measurements.

How convenient... eh comrade.

Can you not read?

Let me help you ...


The Stanford group's findings are the latest in a growing series of papers to cast doubt on the existence of a hiatus. Another study, led by Thomas Karl, the director of the National Centers for Environmental Information of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) and published recently in the journal Science, found that many of the ocean buoys used to measure sea surface temperatures during the past couple of decades gave cooler readings than measurements gathered from ships. The NOAA group suggested that by correcting the buoy measurements, the hiatus signal disappears.

While the Stanford group also concluded that there has not been a hiatus, one important distinction of their work is that they did so using both the older, uncorrected temperature measurements as well as the newer, corrected measurements from the NOAA group.

"By using both data sets, nobody can claim that we made up a new statistical technique in order to get a certain result," said Rajaratnam, who is also an affiliated faculty member at the Stanford Woods Institute for the Environment. "We saw that there was a debate in the scientific community about the global warming hiatus, and we realized that the assumptions of the classical statistical tools being used were not appropriate and thus could not give reliable answers."

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Guest

"found that many of the ocean buoys used to measure sea surface temperatures during the past couple of decades gave cooler readings than measurements gathered from ships. The NOAA group suggested that by correcting the buoy measurements, the hiatus signal disappears."

Found? Found how? Where's that data? How many is "many"? I'm sure that calibrations are done... this is garbage.

Sal

Sal

Read the part in red.

Sheesh.

Guest


Guest

Salinsky wrote:Read the part in red.

Sheesh.

That this bs adjustment is part of the equation at all is ridiculous. There was a hiatus prior... now there's not.

Lol... how convenient.

http://www.argo.ucsd.edu/About_Argo.html

Argo's Objectives

It will provide a quantitative description of the changing state of the upper ocean and the patterns of ocean climate variability from months to decades, including heat and freshwater storage and transport. The data will enhance the value of the Jason altimeter through measurement of subsurface temperature, salinity, and velocity, with sufficient coverage and resolution to permit interpretation of altimetric sea surface height variability. Argo data will be used for initializing ocean and coupled ocean-atmosphere forecast models, for data assimilation and for model testing. A primary focus of Argo is to document seasonal to decadal climate variability and to aid our understanding of its predictability. A wide range of applications for high-quality global ocean analyses is anticipated.

Argo Design and Data

The design of the Argo network is based on experience from the present observing system, on recent knowledge of variability from the TOPEX/Poseidon altimeter, and on the requirements for climate and high-resolution ocean models.

The array of ~3200 floats provides 100,000 temperature/salinity (T/S) profiles and velocity measurements per year distributed over the global oceans at an average 3-degree spacing. Floats will cycle to 2000m depth devery 10 days, with 4-5 year lifetimes for individual instruments. All data collected by Argo floats are publically available in near real-time via the Global Data Assembly Centers (GDACs) in Brest, France and Monterey, California after an automated quality control (QC), and in scientifically quality controlled form, delayed mode data, via the GDACs within one year of collection.

Sal

Sal

Holy shit ...

... you really can't read.

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Guest

On the one hand we have an advanced satellite and state of the art argo array... on the other we have an internal temp sensor. Which would you trust or consider the most accurate? Maybe you should read it again... and look over the model they're using. This is the engine intake temp sensor... similar to the digital temp sensor on your car:

Thermosalinograph

A ThermoSalinoGraph (TSG) is an automated instrument which continuously measures the sea surface temperature and conductivity along the track and on board of the ship using a water intake system (INLINE MEASUREMENT). Conductivity and thermistor cells provide the measurements and salinity is derived from these parameters. The TSG is manually turned on once the ship leaves the port. Water flows through the tubes of the instrument which is located in the hull of the vessel. The position of the ship is given by a GPS. A computer collects all data and processes them.

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PkrBum wrote:On the one hand we have  an advanced satellite and state of the art argo array... on the other we have an internal temp sensor. Which would you trust or consider the most accurate?


The unanimous consensus of every scientific organization on the planet?


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This can't be that hard for y'all to understand. It's not like I'm bringing up the variables... particle dynamics, solar cycles... etc.

This is simple... and it's certainly not the first time they've passed off shit "science". Y'all just choose willful ignorance.

Enjoy comrades..!!

boards of FL

boards of FL

PkrBum wrote:This can't be that hard for y'all to understand.


Neither can this:


An apparent pause in global warming might have been a temporary mirage, according to recent analysis. Global average temperatures have continued to rise throughout the first part of the twenty-first century, researchers report on 5 June in Science1.

That finding, which contradicts the 2013 report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), is based on an update of the global temperature records maintained by the US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA). The previous version of the NOAA data set had showed less warming during the first decade of the millennium.

Researchers revised the NOAA data set to correct for known biases in sea-surface-temperature records and to incorporate data from new land-based monitoring stations that extend into the Arctic — an area where observations are sparse. The updated NOAA data set also includes observations from 2013 and 2014; the latter ranked as the warmest year on record.

“The bottom line is that the IPCC reported that the rate of warming was less in the last 15 years than it was in the previous 30–60 years,” says Tom Karl, the study's lead author and the director of the National Centers for Environmental Information in Asheville, North Carolina. “That is no longer valid according to our data.”

The analysis follows a raft of papers that seek to explain why global temperatures seemed to level off around the turn of the millennium. NOAA's updated temperature record still shows cooler observed conditions than those projected by most climate models for the same period. But Karl says that the warming trend is clear up to the end of 2014. That holds true even if researchers choose 1998, which saw extreme heat associated with an El Niño weather pattern in the tropical Pacific Ocean, as the starting point for such an analysis.

“Tom Karl and colleagues have done solid work here, but they’ve mostly just confirmed what we already knew,” says Michael Mann, a climatologist at Pennsylvania State University in University Park. “There is no true ‘pause’ or ‘hiatus’ in warming.”

Hot seat
The biggest change to the NOAA records comes from a correction to ocean-temperature readings, to account for differences in measurements from ships and buoys. Scientists have long known that ships log slightly warmer ocean temperatures than do buoys operating in the same location. The influx of data from an expansion of buoys during the past two decades has reduced the apparent rate of ocean warming. NOAA has now adjusted for this effect, in line with similar changes that the UK Met Office made to its global temperature record.

The NOAA data set had previously been modified to account for a shift in the way that ships measure ocean temperatures. After the Second World War, ships began to monitor sea water directly through engine intakes, instead of sampling it with buckets. Karl's team adjusted the data to account for new information suggesting that some ships have continued bucket measurements.

Finally, the researchers made use of a new database of land-based temperature readings, which more than doubled the number of stations available to NOAA. It also extended coverage further into the Arctic, which has warmed faster than the rest of the globe in recent decades.


All told, Karl's team finds that global temperatures increased at a rate of 0.116°C a decade in 2000–14, compared to a rate of 0.113°C in 1950–99. And Karl says that rate will probably go up once his team calculates the temperature increase for the entirety of the rapidly warming Arctic. Researchers found in 2013 that gaps in Arctic observations artificially cooled the Met Office temperature record2.

The latest study only resolved part of the question. Climate models used by the IPCC still project warming to continue, but scientists have documented various factors for which the models have not accounted, resulting in suppressed temperatures. These contributors include weak solar irradiation, volcanic aerosols that block sunlight and ocean circulation3.

“Once you take into account the slight forcing errors, the actual occurrence of El Niños, et cetera, there is very little left to explain,” says Gavin Schmidt, director of NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies in New York City.



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I love to see you progressives worry about how to steal more money from the richer classes....here is some more dirty fuel for your arguments...

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/09/16/429514/Air-pollution-research-science-study

Over 3 million killed yearly by air pollution: Study

boards of FL

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It's hard for me to even imagine what type of mentality one must possess in order to feel that they have a better understanding of a particular discipline than, literally, ever single organization of professionals who work in that industry. The level of stupidity is breathtaking.


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The thing you're not getting is that the Stanford group ran their statistical model using the numbers the NOAA study adjusted and then again with the unadjusted numbers and the result was the same - no hiatus.

So you can quit harping on the NOAA study.

Doesn't matter.

No hiatus.



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It's hard for me to even imagine what type of mentality one must possess in order to feel that they have a better understanding of a particular discipline than, literally, ever single organization of professionals who work in that industry. The level of stupidity is breathtaking.


If you watched the debate last night, unscientific folklore took the place of science. The worse part is a doctor who clearly said there was no scientific connection between autism and vaccinations, finally let his integrity and professional training be compromised when he said scheduled shots could be lengthened and doses reduced. The scientist today said there is no scientific basis for that type of variation and it could expose children to disease dangers. So in front of America three candidates showed why science is not part of the Republican deal anymore.......it is superstition, folklore, and the mistaken idea that disease control in America will be better served by ad hoc feel good theories which have nothing to do with science than mandated vaccine schedules for children before enrollment in school. Do you notice a common thread of those here who reject science and truth regularly......for years.

Markle

Markle

boards of FL wrote:Clearly they are being paid by the UN to produce this nonsense, and have been for the last 30+ years.  It's, like, a conspiracy, or something.

Cough cough.

THANK YOU!  

With a bit more hard work you'll become as good a foil as are 2seaoat and Wordslinger.  You all are a delight!

UN and Oxfam caught bribing journalists to write climate change scare stories
September 15, 2015

Journalists are being bribed by the United Nations and the Oxfam charity to write scare stories about climate change ahead of the global climate treaty negotiations in Paris later this year.

Details of the bribes – which take the form of ego-boosting “awards”, global travel in CO2 generating airliners and financial payments – are contained in a news release just published by the UNDP today, an organization headed by former New Zealand Prime Minister Helen Clark.

The full text of the news release follows:

"15 September 2015 – Oxfam will support the Voice2Paris  global storytelling contest launched in August by the United National Development Programme (UNDP) by providing three additional fellowships for participating journalists to cover the UN Conference on Climate Change, COP21, in Paris in December. Oxfam’s contribution to the contest aims at encouraging journalists’ participation in climate change reporting and raising public awareness of climate actions."

“The contest is a fantastic opportunity to create awareness of the harmful impacts of climate change on communities, and of potential opportunities in climate-vulnerable developing countries. This is also a great opportunity for young journalists to strengthen their perception of climate change and to frame it not merely as an environmental issue but also as an issue of social justice and poverty alleviation” said Wang Binbin, Manager of the Climate Change and Poverty Team, Oxfam Hong Kong."

http://www.investigatemagazine.co.nz/Investigate/17255/un-and-oxfam-caught-bribing-journalists-to-write-climate-change-scare-stories/

No Global Warming...NO MASSIVE GRANTS of tax payer money.

Markle

Markle

Salinsky wrote:The thing you're not getting is that the Stanford group used their statistical model using the numbers the NOAA study adjusted and then again with the unadjusted numbers and the result was the same - no hiatus.

So you quit harping on the NOAA study.

Doesn't matter.

No hiatus.

You are so cute and gullible! You just chug down that Kool Aid down don't you?

A new record ‘Pause’ length: Satellite Data: No global warming for 18 years 8 months!

With this month’s RSS temperature record, the Pause sets a new record at 18 years 8 months.


The RSS satellite dataset shows no global warming at all for 224 months from January 1997 to August 2015 – more than half the 440-month satellite record.

There has been no warming even though one-third of all anthropogenic forcings since 1750 have occurred since the Pause began in January 1997.

Read more: http://www.climatedepot.com/2015/09/02/a-new-record-pause-length-satellite-data-no-global-warming-for-18-years-8-months/#ixzz3m32qglIp

Keep up the good work!

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