This is what Mr. Markle was saying 2.5 years ago

Floridatexan wrote:

2seaoat wrote:Does that new law excuse homosexuality ?.

No need to excuse anything......there is no new law.....just old law seeking equal protection.

Floridatexan wrote:You do realize that the Spanish Inquisition and the persecution, torture and murder of citizens was due to the alignment of the monarchs and the church, do you not?  Or that Constantine of the Roman Empire was responsible for the execution of "heretics" in Great Britain and elsewhere?

2seaoat wrote:You do realize that forcing this clerk to renounce her faith is no less an inquisition and a great evil ?


Who is making her change her faith.....idiotic.  She does that every time she marries again.

Wordslinger wrote:Teo:  I'm no longer sure of your argument regarding Kim Davis.  Elected to a governmental office, her job entails granting marriage licenses to couples who "qualify."  Her religious convictions will not allow her to do so, she says, so she has ceased to grant marriage licenses to anyone.  Still, she is taxed with that responsibility by her employers.  Qualifications for acquiring a marriage license are set by federal, not state law.  Federal law ALWAYS has precedent.  Kim Davis has decided to defy the law for which she has been jailed.

If there's any part of the above you disagree with, let me know.

As you know, there are numerous Muslim neighborhoods in several States.  Many want to replace American law with Sharia, to conform to their religious beliefs.  Should they be allowed to do so?  How is this situation different from that of Kim Davis?

The concept of equality under the law is a fundamental right, according to the U.S. Constitution.  Ms. Davis's personal interpretation of her religion's rules of conduct, morality, etc. would deny the right of marriage to American citizens who have been deemed by the United States Supreme Court to be eligible.

If you insist that Ms. Davis's primary allegiance should be to her religion, you are, in essence, advocating that people who believe that following American law whenever it conflicts with their religious beliefs, should rebel and act against the United States of America.  

What becomes abundantly clear, is that one cannot be a religious fundamentalist and a loyal American citizen.  

It is not possible for a religious fundamentalist to be a functioning, loyal American citizen.  Such people want to live in a theocracy, not a democracy.

Do you agree, or disagree?

Wordslinger wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:Teo:  I'm no longer sure of your argument regarding Kim Davis.  Elected to a governmental office, her job entails granting marriage licenses to couples who "qualify."  Her religious convictions will not allow her to do so, she says, so she has ceased to grant marriage licenses to anyone.  Still, she is taxed with that responsibility by her employers.  Qualifications for acquiring a marriage license are set by federal, not state law.  Federal law ALWAYS has precedent.  Kim Davis has decided to defy the law for which she has been jailed.

If there's any part of the above you disagree with, let me know.

As you know, there are numerous Muslim neighborhoods in several States.  Many want to replace American law with Sharia, to conform to their religious beliefs.  Should they be allowed to do so?  How is this situation different from that of Kim Davis?

The concept of equality under the law is a fundamental right, according to the U.S. Constitution.  Ms. Davis's personal interpretation of her religion's rules of conduct, morality, etc. would deny the right of marriage to American citizens who have been deemed by the United States Supreme Court to be eligible.

If you insist that Ms. Davis's primary allegiance should be to her religion, you are, in essence, advocating that people who believe that following American law whenever it conflicts with their religious beliefs, should rebel and act against the United States of America.  

What becomes abundantly clear, is that one cannot be a religious fundamentalist and a loyal American citizen.  

It is not possible for a religious fundamentalist to be a functioning, loyal American citizen.  Such people want to live in a theocracy, not a democracy.

Do you agree, or disagree?

Teo, how about an answer?

Wordslinger wrote:I'm proud to be an American -- this is my country as much as yours or anyone's.  Of course we're a flawed nation, what country isn't?  I'm an optimist and truly believe we are still growing and that we will change for the better.  Modern communications -- the media and the internet -- brings the entire picture, in real time - to all of us.  Despots, tyrants and bloodsuckers can't hide anymore.

I like that.  

Have a good ride.  

2seaoat wrote:Yes, a word salad which you are having comprehension problems.....let me help you....President Bush, President Obama, and future President Hillary Clinton are not going to jail for any criminal actions.   All the political ravings of maniacs are silly.  Why can't you beat Hillary on issues?  Is she really that smart?

Wordslinger wrote:I'm proud to be an American -- this is my country as much as yours or anyone's.  Of course we're a flawed nation, what country isn't?  I'm an optimist and truly believe we are still growing and that we will change for the better.  Modern communications -- the media and the internet -- brings the entire picture, in real time - to all of us.  Despots, tyrants and bloodsuckers can't hide anymore.

I like that.  

Have a good ride.  

Markle wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:I'm proud to be an American -- this is my country as much as yours or anyone's.  Of course we're a flawed nation, what country isn't?  I'm an optimist and truly believe we are still growing and that we will change for the better.  Modern communications -- the media and the internet -- brings the entire picture, in real time - to all of us.  Despots, tyrants and bloodsuckers can't hide anymore.

I like that.  

Have a good ride.  

Wordslinger wrote:

Markle wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:I'm proud to be an American -- this is my country as much as yours or anyone's.  Of course we're a flawed nation, what country isn't?  I'm an optimist and truly believe we are still growing and that we will change for the better.  Modern communications -- the media and the internet -- brings the entire picture, in real time - to all of us.  Despots, tyrants and bloodsuckers can't hide anymore.

I like that.  

Have a good ride.  

What is the sound of one hand clapping?

Obamasucks wrote:Liberals who blatantly break laws should do the same liberal suck butt

Obamasucks wrote:Liberals who blatantly break laws should do the same liberal suck butt

Wordslinger wrote:

Obamasucks wrote:Liberals who blatantly break laws should do the same liberal suck butt

Er ... having no ability to brilliantly respond, I will resort now to childish, homophobic name calling ....   liberal suck butt.  Won't somebody help me, please?  Nyah, nyah ... yo Mama wears crokersack drawers ...
But I AM a teacher!  Really!