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Butchmeup wants to run for President
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Hospital Bob
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2 Re: Butchmeup wants to run for President 4/20/2015, 9:11 am
KarlRove
2seaoat wrote:This guy is totally delusional. He thinks the pack will be tied in NH and Iowa, and that he will take the lead after S.C. How does this guy keep getting asked to Sunday talk shows?
Why worry?
3 Re: Butchmeup wants to run for President 4/20/2015, 9:26 am
2seaoat
I have never "worried" when the clowns were piling out of the VW bug, instead I have always had a sense of amusement at how many clowns they could pack into one primary.
4 Re: Butchmeup wants to run for President 4/20/2015, 10:11 am
dumpcare
It is starting to resemble that old joke, How many republican candidates can you fit into a 56 Chevy?
5 Re: Butchmeup wants to run for President 4/20/2015, 10:37 am
KarlRove
At least the GOP is vetting their candidates and we know where each were born, their grades ( in Scott walkers case failure to earn a degree), and all have has real jobs at one point in their lives.
6 Re: Butchmeup wants to run for President 4/20/2015, 10:42 am
Hospital Bob
KarlRove wrote:At least the GOP is vetting their candidates and we know where each were born
And we know one of the leading candidates wasn't born in the United States so he should be ineligible don't you agree?
8 Re: Butchmeup wants to run for President 4/20/2015, 11:08 am
ZVUGKTUBM
KarlRove wrote:At least the GOP is vetting their candidates and we know where each were born, their grades ( in Scott walkers case failure to earn a degree), and all have has real jobs at one point in their lives.
Karl still believes that the President was born in Kenya.....
9 Re: Butchmeup wants to run for President 4/20/2015, 11:17 am
ZVUGKTUBM
ppaca wrote:It is starting to resemble that old joke, How many republican candidates can you fit into a 56 Chevy?
Fratricide is already occurring in the field....
http://www.pnj.com/story/news/politics/elections/2015/04/19/marco-rubio-jeb-bush-alliance-sours-gop-primary-faceoff/26037283/
They are going to beat each other up so badly during the primaries that the Democratic candidate will waltz into the WH.
They still won't reveal their hand on policies they support. Hint: It will be McCain and/or Romney rehashed and re-released as something "new." They have nothing to offer but the same old Republican shit.
Earth to Republicans: You spent the last 6.5 years fighting against "the Obama agenda." Now is the time to tell us what separates you from Obama that is so much better. It had better be something more than just attacking Iran and kissing the ring of Bibi Netanyahu.
10 Re: Butchmeup wants to run for President 4/20/2015, 11:17 am
2seaoat
I still do not understand why Butchmeup is chosen over twenty other more substantial senators for Sunday talk shows.
11 Re: Butchmeup wants to run for President 4/20/2015, 11:19 am
ZVUGKTUBM
Bob wrote:KarlRove wrote:At least the GOP is vetting their candidates and we know where each were born
And we know one of the leading candidates wasn't born in the United States so he should be ineligible don't you agree?
Now hold on, Bob.... Karl likes Ted Cruz, so he will make excuses for him. Bobby Jindal's origin is also questionable (he was his parents anchor-baby).
12 Re: Butchmeup wants to run for President 4/20/2015, 11:56 am
dumpcare
Didn't Jindal start his career as a telemarketer and go by Peggy? Or was it Betty?
13 Re: Butchmeup wants to run for President 4/20/2015, 12:15 pm
gatorfan
ZVUGKTUBM wrote:[color=#333399]ppaca wrote:
They still won't reveal their hand on policies they support. Hint: It will be McCain and/or Romney rehashed and re-released as something "new." They have nothing to offer but the same old Republican shit.
So what policy changes is HRC promoting? Or does it even matter to you? This enormous Republican field will mostly wither away since most of the participants are idiots. It's going to be a long campaign.
I can't wait to read the new "Cash for Clintons" book......I can tell you one policy of HRC is to make and stash as much money as possible....
14 Re: Butchmeup wants to run for President 4/20/2015, 12:29 pm
KarlRove
by Bob Today at 11:42 am
KarlRove wrote:
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At least the GOP is vetting their candidates and we know where each were born
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And we know one of the leading candidates wasn't born in the United States so he should be ineligible don't you agree?
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Then why is Obama POTUS ?
KarlRove wrote:
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At least the GOP is vetting their candidates and we know where each were born
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And we know one of the leading candidates wasn't born in the United States so he should be ineligible don't you agree?
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Then why is Obama POTUS ?
15 Re: Butchmeup wants to run for President 4/20/2015, 1:57 pm
ZVUGKTUBM
KarlRove wrote:by Bob Today at 11:42 am
KarlRove wrote:
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At least the GOP is vetting their candidates and we know where each were born
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And we know one of the leading candidates wasn't born in the United States so he should be ineligible don't you agree?
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Then why is Obama POTUS ?
First, most Americans believe that President Obama was born in Hawaii. Second, one of your main complaints early in his presidency was your claim of an illegitimate Obama-presidency because of your belief that he was born outside the United States (in Kenya).
So, you are now flip-flopping and legitimizing Ted Cruz's candidacy (he is Canadian by birth)? Will you admit to the flip-flop and concede that you were full of doo-doo about Obama not being eligible?
16 Re: Butchmeup wants to run for President 4/21/2015, 8:45 am
gatorfan
gatorfan wrote:ZVUGKTUBM wrote:
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They still won't reveal their hand on policies they support. Hint: It will be McCain and/or Romney rehashed and re-released as something "new." They have nothing to offer but the same old Republican shit.
So what policy changes is HRC promoting? Or does it even matter to you? This enormous Republican field will mostly wither away since most of the participants are idiots. It's going to be a long campaign.
I can't wait to read the new "Cash for Clintons" book......I can tell you one policy of HRC is to make and stash as much money as possible....
Sometimes no answer is an answer.
17 Re: Butchmeup wants to run for President 4/21/2015, 8:54 am
2seaoat
Sometimes no answer is an answer.
Agreed.... a loud and clear answer that a Democrat will not be seeking to give to five thousand families 300 billion plus......and on and on and on......the distance between the success of President Obama and President Clinton in economic growth compared to Republican destruction of the economy as tax cuts and special interests get their pay day.....yep no answer is an answer, and the Republicans have no answers for what ails America except that they are the problem.
Agreed.... a loud and clear answer that a Democrat will not be seeking to give to five thousand families 300 billion plus......and on and on and on......the distance between the success of President Obama and President Clinton in economic growth compared to Republican destruction of the economy as tax cuts and special interests get their pay day.....yep no answer is an answer, and the Republicans have no answers for what ails America except that they are the problem.
18 Re: Butchmeup wants to run for President 4/21/2015, 8:58 am
gatorfan
2seaoat wrote:Sometimes no answer is an answer.
Agreed.... a loud and clear answer that a Democrat will not be seeking to give to five thousand families 300 billion plus......and on and on and on......the distance between the success of President Obama and President Clinton in economic growth compared to Republican destruction of the economy as tax cuts and special interests get their pay day.....yep no answer is an answer, and the Republicans have no answers for what ails America except that they are the problem.
Well thanks for wasting a paragraph not addressing the question I asked, I'm quite aware of Republican idiocy so I didn't ask about them. I thought it was pretty simple, what policies will HRC bring to the table to fix what is broken in this country. Apparently nothing. Same old, same old......
19 Re: Butchmeup wants to run for President 4/21/2015, 10:05 am
Sal
gatorfan wrote:2seaoat wrote:Sometimes no answer is an answer.
Agreed.... a loud and clear answer that a Democrat will not be seeking to give to five thousand families 300 billion plus......and on and on and on......the distance between the success of President Obama and President Clinton in economic growth compared to Republican destruction of the economy as tax cuts and special interests get their pay day.....yep no answer is an answer, and the Republicans have no answers for what ails America except that they are the problem.
Well thanks for wasting a paragraph not addressing the question I asked, I'm quite aware of Republican idiocy so I didn't ask about them. I thought it was pretty simple, what policies will HRC bring to the table to fix what is broken in this country. Apparently nothing. Same old, same old......
Not just Hillary, but any Democrat would seek to maintain the social safety net and preserve and even expand the ACA.
In contrast, any Repuke would seek to gut the social safety net and dismantle the ACA.
Not just Hillary, but any Democrat would seek to preserve and perhaps even expand the financial reforms of Wall Street.
In contrast, any Repuke would seek to roll back any and all regulations and eliminate consumer protections.
Not just Hillary, but any Democrat would seek to retain and perhaps even expand the tax hikes on the wealthy introduced in 2013.
In contrast, any Repuke would seek to cut taxes on the wealthy and repeal the estate tax.
Not just Hillary, but any Democrat would seek implementation of policies to address climate change.
In contrast, any Repuke would deny the scientific consensus and seek to block all efforts to curb the emissions of greenhouse gases.
Not just Hillary, but any Democrat would seek continued diplomatic efforts with Iran in an effort to prevent them from achieving a nuclear weapon.
In contrast, any Repuke would sabotage all diplomacy and seek another disastrous Middle East military adventure.
Shall I continue?
20 Re: Butchmeup wants to run for President 4/21/2015, 10:11 am
gatorfan
Sal wrote:gatorfan wrote:2seaoat wrote:Sometimes no answer is an answer.
Agreed.... a loud and clear answer that a Democrat will not be seeking to give to five thousand families 300 billion plus......and on and on and on......the distance between the success of President Obama and President Clinton in economic growth compared to Republican destruction of the economy as tax cuts and special interests get their pay day.....yep no answer is an answer, and the Republicans have no answers for what ails America except that they are the problem.
Well thanks for wasting a paragraph not addressing the question I asked, I'm quite aware of Republican idiocy so I didn't ask about them. I thought it was pretty simple, what policies will HRC bring to the table to fix what is broken in this country. Apparently nothing. Same old, same old......
Not just Hillary, but any Democrat would seek to maintain the social safety net and preserve and even expand the ACA.
In contrast, any Repuke would seek to gut the social safety net and dismantle the ACA.
Not just Hillary, but any Democrat would seek to preserve and perhaps even expand the financial reforms of Wall Street.
In contrast, any Repuke would seek to roll back any and all regulations and eliminate consumer protections.
Not just Hillary, but any Democrat would seek to retain and perhaps even expand the tax hikes on the wealthy introduced in 2013.
In contrast, any Repuke would seek to cut taxes on the wealthy and repeal the estate tax.
Not just Hillary, but any Democrat would seek implementation of policies to address climate change.
In contrast, any Repuke would deny the scientific consensus and seek to block all efforts to curb the emissions of greenhouse gases.
Not just Hillary, but any Democrat would seek continued diplomatic efforts with Iran in an effort to prevent them from achieving a nuclear weapon.
In contrast, any Repuke would sabotage all diplomacy and seek another disastrous Middle East military adventure.
Shall I continue?
By all means, continue. Try giving specific HRC statements addressing issues and her plan to achieve those goals. Hell, if they look reasonable I might even hold my nose and vote for her although I suspect she has no substance, much like her current flock of opponents. And I don't like the idea of another family dynasty in the White House....
The rest of your post is pure speculation.
21 Re: Butchmeup wants to run for President 4/21/2015, 11:04 am
Sal
It's not speculation.
It's purely policy positions.
I'm no Hillary fanboy.
I would prefer O'Malley or some other alternative.
But, to pretend there isn't a stark contrast between the policy positions of the two parties requires willful ignorance, dishonesty, abject stupidity or a combination of all three.
It's purely policy positions.
I'm no Hillary fanboy.
I would prefer O'Malley or some other alternative.
But, to pretend there isn't a stark contrast between the policy positions of the two parties requires willful ignorance, dishonesty, abject stupidity or a combination of all three.
22 Re: Butchmeup wants to run for President 4/21/2015, 11:12 am
polecat
KarlRove wrote:At least the GOP is vetting their candidates and we know where each were born, their grades ( in Scott walkers case failure to earn a degree), and all have has real jobs at one point in their lives.
Name the job cruz had that was not on gov.teat
Just 1 private sector job he had
23 Re: Butchmeup wants to run for President 4/21/2015, 11:13 am
gatorfan
Sal wrote:It's not speculation.
It's purely policy positions.
But, to pretend there isn't a stark contrast between the policy positions of the two parties requires willful ignorance, dishonesty, abject stupidity or a combination of all three.
You haven't provided any "policy" positions by HRC. Just speculation so that tells me that you, like 2SO, don't know HRCs position on issues either. You just assume they are better than anything else.
Nobody is pretending there aren't differences between the two parties - at least in ideology. I believe I have said previously the R's are idiots, all anyone has to do is watch their useless antics on the Hill.
24 Re: Butchmeup wants to run for President 4/21/2015, 12:08 pm
Sal
gatorfan wrote:Just speculation so that tells me that you, like 2SO, don't know HRCs position on issues either.
lol
You must not pay much attention to politics.
Hillary has spent literally decades in the public eye, as First Lady, Senator, leading presidential candidate in 2008, and Secretary of State.
She's not exactly a blank slate.
She may have to shift her economic policy positions to the left with the advent of Elizabeth Warren's brand of populism, but other than that her positions are pretty well staked out and established.
As a remedy for your apparent ignorance, I would suggest you use the google machine to search "Hillary Clinton policy positions".
25 Re: Butchmeup wants to run for President 4/21/2015, 12:12 pm
gatorfan
Sal wrote:gatorfan wrote:Just speculation so that tells me that you, like 2SO, don't know HRCs position on issues either.
lol
You must not pay much attention to politics.
Hillary has spent literally decades in the public eye, as First Lady, Senator, leading presidential candidate in 2008, and Secretary of State.
She's not exactly a blank slate.
She may have to shift her economic policy positions to the left with the advent of Elizabeth Warren's brand of populism, but other than that her positions are pretty well staked out and established.
As a remedy for your apparent ignorance, I would suggest you use the google machine to search "Hillary Clinton policy positions".
As a remedy for your ignorance I suggest the following:
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