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Santa Rosa DEPUTY shoots perpetrator....Gosh I hope this is OK with our posters

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Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

A Santa Rosa County deputy is in surgery after he was attacked with a samurai sword in Navarre.
Deputies responded to a disturbance call on Quail Roost Drive around 6 p.m. A mother had reported that her son was off his medications and acting violently, according to Santa Rosa Sheriff's Office Cpt. Bob Johnson.
When deputies arrived they found the man in the yard of the residence armed with a samurai sword and attempted to engage him with non-lethal force using a bean-bag gun.
A back-up deputy, apparently unaware the man was armed, attempted to engage him from around the corner of the house, Johnson said. It was then that the man attacked the deputy, inflicting multiple injuries.

The first deputy then shot the attacker several times.
Both the deputy and the sword-wielder were trauma alerted to Baptist Hospital.
Their conditions are unknown at this time.

KarlRove

KarlRove

The majority on this forum hate cops. They will probably have a satanic ritual hoping the cop dies. Seaoat will be here to tell us soon how Andy Griffith would have handled it differently and every cop out there is a Barney Fife. Has Seabass ever even rode along with a deputy? no.

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

WEAR.......the perp died.


Santa Rosa Co. deputy, Matt Ray, has been sent to Baptist Hospital after being attacked by a Samurai sword.

The incident happened at a home on Quail Roost Dr. in Navarre around 5:15pm.

The homeowner called 911 saying someone was trying to break into the home. 

When deputy Ray arrived on scene, the man attacked him with a Samurai sword. Ray was taken to Baptist Hospital in Pensacola, by a police escort.

Another deputy had arrived on scene and saw deputy Ray get attacked.

The man then tried to attack the second deputy, but the deputy shot the man multiple times.

The attacker died on the way to the hospital. 

The Sheriff's Office has reported that deputy Ray is currently undergoing surgery for his wounds.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

Some piece of trash who is burglarzing a house and then stabs the cop deserves to be shot,  set on fire,  waterboarded and dead.
Just like the rabid cop who gunned down and murdered the unarmed (not armed with anything) man who was running away from him in South Carolina after a traffic stop when the cop shot him in the back.

I can't believe I'm saying this,  but I agree with what Sean Hannity said tonight when he said "everything else anyone brings up to try to distract from what that cop did in South Carolina is irrelevant.  The cop is a murderer and the evidence makes that indefensible".



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KarlRove

KarlRove

YEA the perp died. Let's hope the deputy makes it after his wounds

2seaoat



If your son is suffering from mental illness, do not call the police. Simply DO NOT call the police. Why would anybody try to get near a mentally Ill son of parents who called for help. You get people back. You tell neighbors to leave the area, and certainly create a perimeter. The deputy comes around the house to discover the guy has a sword.........Training.....more Training.........and then some more training. I guess it would have been better for the parents to shoot their son in the leg and call an ambulance......calling the police nationwide is becoming a big mistake. Mentally Ill people are not safe in America if there is a police call.

I hope the officer recovers from his wounds, and I hope he and others get some training dealing with mentally Ill folks off their meds.

Now we wait for the video of an officer dropping a sword next to the decedent........like that mysterious gun found with the bike and kid under the squad car.....when will it stop.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

This is where you and me part company again,  seaoat,  and where you start to ranting about me being a "scaredy cat" and racist and whatever else again.  lol

See,  I don't buy into this notion that being crazy should always be an excuse and a defense for anything and I never have.  
The vast majority of mentally ill people don't go running around waving swords trying to stab people.  I see it as just another form of bigotry to try to excuse the ones who do.

2seaoat



The vast majority of mentally ill people don't go running around waving swords trying to stab people.

Then you have NO familiarity with the criminal justice system and what the average officer has to deal with everyday. Mental illness and going off meds with Bipolar individuals can be a tragedy which changes lives.

Nobody says it is easy dealing with a sick person, but I just think of those parents who called hoping to help their son. I have seen the grinding of life out of a family dealing with serious mental illness, and having no options or programs to help the family. It is so sad.

Mentally Ill people are getting summarily executed all across America. It is not a matter of justified, it is a matter of training. I have taken the mental first aid course which all police and emergency responders are now required to take, and I can tell you the answer is training, funding of mental health alternatives other than the criminal justice system. This is a tragedy. Please do not think I am unconcerned about the officer, I hope he fully recovers, but what happen tonight will require more facts being disclosed, but certainly I will bet "all in" that training could have avoided injury to the officer and the mentally ill person.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

I don't make the same distinctions you do when it comes to violent aggressors, seaoat. It doesn't matter to me if the violent aggressors are hiding behind badges or hiding behind "mental illness". To be honest I'm really sick and tired of listening to all the whiny types who want to excuse either of them.

2seaoat



The very definition of mental illness is a person lacking capacity. Nobody is defending a mentally Ill person. If it was a kid who was 10 years old and had a bb gun, I might be defending the kid, but here it is completely an issue of training. How can we train our officers to make "Peace officer" calls which result in citizens getting assistance and keeping their life. That paradigm is gone. It starts and ends with training. Now the parents are going to have to live with calling the police.....these families are living a living hell, walking on egg shells, and now it is over..........

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

He was breaking into his sister's home wielding a sword.  She called the police out of fear.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

That carolina cop was mentally ill too.  I have a degree in psychology and regardless of some of the nonsense which was taught to me by that,  when one human being shoots another human being in the back while he's running away and has absolutely no reason or justification for doing so,  that is the very definition of "mental illness" in my psychology book.  It's the antithesis of "sanity".

When either a crazy cop or a crazy civilian comes at me shooting a gun or swinging a sword,  all I care about is wanting to put an end to either aggression when it's happening.  And I'll use any means available to me to that end.

There's no point in continuing with the back and forth, seaoat.  It's very clear that you and I will always differ on this no matter what either of us says to the other.

2seaoat



There is nothing to debate. Training is the issue.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Yes, a sword-wielding whacko attacking a cop deserved what he got.


Joanimoroni's take on it clearly suggests that she thinks there are too many on this forum who protest the almost daily occurrence of a cop shooting to death an unarmed suspect somewhere in Amerika Inc.


Yessirree sir, that Joani thinks we shouldn't pay attention when a murderous sonofabitch wearing a uniform with a badge on the shirt decides it would be fun to blow away another citizen.


Why don't you join the force Joani?  Then you too could kill an unarmed citizen.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

KarlRove wrote:The majority on this forum hate cops. They will probably have a satanic ritual hoping the cop dies. Seaoat will be here to tell us soon how Andy Griffith would have handled it differently and every cop out there is a Barney Fife. Has Seabass ever even rode along with a deputy? no.

You have a point here?  What the hell has riding with a deputy got to do with cases where police gun down unarmed citizens, some of whom are running away from them?  You poor sick, PTSD weirdo.  You're actually trying to justify bad cops who murder citizens.

We're all lucky you're not a cop!!

Reality.

othershoe1030

othershoe1030

The reports here are confusing. First the police are called by the parents because their son is off his meds and then it says police are called because the guy is breaking in to someone's house?

I think the idea of shooting the guy in the leg and then calling the EMT's is the best solution! Actually, why don't parents just call the ambulance first instead of the police, seriously. Maybe those folks have better training dealing with the off their meds situations?

I too agree with Hannity in this case.

I can't believe I'm saying this,  but I agree with what Sean Hannity said tonight when he said "everything else anyone brings up to try to distract from what that cop did in South Carolina is irrelevant.  The cop is a murderer and the evidence makes that indefensible".

It is like a trial situation: the jury can only consider the very limited facts associated with whatever the person is charged with, not their entire history or other technically unrelated things.

In the case of the SC murder, I don't care if the guy stole the car, he should not have been gunned down.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

othershoe1030 wrote:The reports here are confusing. First the police are called by the parents because their son is off his meds and then it says police are called because the guy is breaking in to someone's house?

I think the idea of shooting the guy in the leg and then calling the EMT's is the best solution! Actually, why don't parents just call the ambulance first instead of the police, seriously. Maybe those folks have better training dealing with the off their meds situations?

I too agree with Hannity in this case.

I can't believe I'm saying this,  but I agree with what Sean Hannity said tonight when he said "everything else anyone brings up to try to distract from what that cop did in South Carolina is irrelevant.  The cop is a murderer and the evidence makes that indefensible".

It is like a trial situation: the jury can only consider the very limited facts associated with whatever the person is charged with, not their entire history or other technically unrelated things.

In the case of the SC murder, I don't care if the guy stole the car, he should not have been gunned down.


Last night it was brought out on a TV news show that the only crime Mr. Scott was guilty of was a warrant for not paying child support.

KarlRove

KarlRove

2seaoat wrote:If your son is suffering from mental illness, do not call the police. Simply DO NOT call the police. Why would anybody try to get near a mentally Ill son of parents who called for help. You get people back. You tell neighbors to leave the area, and certainly create a perimeter. The deputy comes around the house to discover the guy has a sword.........Training.....more Training.........and then some more training. I guess it would have been better for the parents to shoot their son in the leg and call an ambulance......calling the police nationwide is becoming a big mistake. Mentally Ill people are not safe in America if there is a police call.

When the person is swinging a sword the law has to be called. The cop was getting sliced and diced.

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

othershoe1030 wrote:The reports here are confusing. First the police are called by the parents because their son is off his meds and then it says police are called because the guy is breaking in to someone's house?

I think the idea of shooting the guy in the leg and then calling the EMT's is the best solution! Actually, why don't parents just call the ambulance first instead of the police, seriously. Maybe those folks have better training dealing with the off their meds situations?

I too agree with Hannity in this case.

I can't believe I'm saying this,  but I agree with what Sean Hannity said tonight when he said "everything else anyone brings up to try to distract from what that cop did in South Carolina is irrelevant.  The cop is a murderer and the evidence makes that indefensible".

It is like a trial situation: the jury can only consider the very limited facts associated with whatever the person is charged with, not their entire history or other technically unrelated things.

In the case of the SC murder, I don't care if the guy stole the car, he should not have been gunned down.


EMI will not enter into an unsecured situation. They stage and wait for the SO to advise when it is safe for them to enter.

polecat

polecat

KarlRove wrote:The majority on this forum hate cops. They will probably have a satanic ritual hoping the cop dies. Seaoat will be here to tell us soon how Andy Griffith would have handled it differently and every cop out there is a Barney Fife. Has Seabass ever even rode along with a deputy? no.

I don't hate cops
I hate bad cops

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2seaoat



Has Seabass ever even rode along with a deputy? no.

Many times.....you see I have many friends who are police officers. I have seen how they harm citizens regularly. I have spoken often on how at the scene of a stop where a person has a warrant, they send out the van to bring the person back to the station to be jailed. Well if the individual has been respectful, he gets a nice ride. If he has been a jerk, they put the cuffs on tight and go full speed at stop signs and come to a screeching halt as the guy flies through the air and hits the front, only to have a full speed acceleration where he flies to the back and hits the back of the van......I listen to this torture all the way to the police station where once in the jail pod with cameras the officer is very supportive and helpful........no I could tell even worse stories on my MANY rides, but what is the point.......as T pointed out we kill more citizens by cop in a month than England does in two decades......the system is broken.

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

2seaoat wrote:    Has Seabass ever even rode along with a deputy? no.

Many times.....you see I have many friends who are police officers.  I have seen how they harm citizens regularly.  I have spoken often on how at the scene of a stop where a person has a warrant, they send out the van to bring the person back to the station to be jailed.   Well if the individual has been respectful, he gets a nice ride.  If he has been a jerk, they put the cuffs on tight and go full speed at stop signs and come to a screeching halt as the guy flies through the air and hits the front, only to have a full speed acceleration where he flies to the back and hits the back of the van......I listen to this torture all the way to the police station where once in the jail pod with cameras the officer is very supportive and helpful........no I could tell even worse stories on my MANY rides, but what is the point.......as T pointed out we kill more citizens by cop in a month than England does in two decades......the system is broken.

Nice friends.

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