Lest we forget this tragedy on Obama's watch by Obama's direction

KarlRove wrote:Wasnt it Clinton who pretty much ignored the FIRat WTC attack by the Blind Sheik? Yes it was

KarlRove wrote:Wasnt it Clinton who pretty much ignored the FIRat WTC attack by the Blind Sheik? Yes it was

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:

KarlRove wrote:Wasnt it Clinton who pretty much ignored the FIRat WTC attack by the Blind Sheik? Yes it was

There you go, blaming Clinton for something that happened under Dubya's watch. He was sleeping at the wheel; the reason the attacks happened.

Markle wrote:

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:

KarlRove wrote:Wasnt it Clinton who pretty much ignored the FIRat WTC attack by the Blind Sheik? Yes it was

There you go, blaming Clinton for something that happened under Dubya's watch. He was sleeping at the wheel; the reason the attacks happened.

You know the facts, yet you can't resist lying can you?  You have known the truth for many years but it really stings doesn't it?

Keep up the good work.  As a reminder....

Once AGAIN for the very, very S-L-O-W!

As you well know, President William Jefferson Clinton erected a wall of silence between each of the 16 or 17 intelligence agencies so they were NOT able to communicate. The IDEA was admirable.  To prevent security leaks through different agencies having access to top secret information.  That was also the fatal error.

The agency who learned that Muslim's were taking flight lessons, and not particularly interested in landing or taking off, were NOT allowed to communicate that information to the agency that learned that al Qaeda was planning to use aircraft to launch a terrorist attack. Yet another agency that picked up increased "chatter" concerning an attack, could not communicate that to the other agencies and on, and on and on.

There was NO LEGAL WAY for them to connect the dots. It was done in the interest of security. Someone in one agency, would not find out what was known in another.

After President George Bush brought down the Gorelick Wall of Silence.... the pre-Patriot Act "wall" prevented foreign intelligence and criminal investigative communities from collaborating. ... the wall barred anti-terror investigators from accessing the computer of Moussaoui, the 20th hijacker.

The wall was originally erected by Jamie Gorelick to hide contributions to Clinton's presidential campaign from foreign sources...over $1.2 million was hidden by straw donors....but in turn it also prevented the sharing of foreign and domestic intelligence.

Bush assigned Stanley McChrystal as the commander of Joint Special Operation Command from 2003-2008...Under McChrystal JSOC had a dramatic change in worldwide intelligence....he successfully combined military, domestic and international intelligence to form a worldwide sharing of intelligence data.....and Obama continues JSCO...they were responsible for Bin Laden's demise.

Legislation put forth by President George Walker Bush, and a new oversight agency created after the attack, remedied this fatal error and gathers intelligence from all agencies. How many fatal Islamic Terrorist attacks...until President Barack Hussein Obama, did we have?

Sal wrote:Under which administration were the ATF's gunwalking operations begun?

Under which administration were the ATF's gunwalking operations ended?

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:

Markle wrote:

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:

KarlRove wrote:Wasnt it Clinton who pretty much ignored the FIRat WTC attack by the Blind Sheik? Yes it was

There you go, blaming Clinton for something that happened under Dubya's watch. He was sleeping at the wheel; the reason the attacks happened.

You know the facts, yet you can't resist lying can you?  You have known the truth for many years but it really stings doesn't it?

Keep up the good work.  As a reminder....

Once AGAIN for the very, very S-L-O-W!

As you well know, President William Jefferson Clinton erected a wall of silence between each of the 16 or 17 intelligence agencies so they were NOT able to communicate. The IDEA was admirable.  To prevent security leaks through different agencies having access to top secret information.  That was also the fatal error.

The agency who learned that Muslim's were taking flight lessons, and not particularly interested in landing or taking off, were NOT allowed to communicate that information to the agency that learned that al Qaeda was planning to use aircraft to launch a terrorist attack. Yet another agency that picked up increased "chatter" concerning an attack, could not communicate that to the other agencies and on, and on and on.

There was NO LEGAL WAY for them to connect the dots. It was done in the interest of security. Someone in one agency, would not find out what was known in another.

After President George Bush brought down the Gorelick Wall of Silence.... the pre-Patriot Act "wall" prevented foreign intelligence and criminal investigative communities from collaborating. ... the wall barred anti-terror investigators from accessing the computer of Moussaoui, the 20th hijacker.

The wall was originally erected by Jamie Gorelick to hide contributions to Clinton's presidential campaign from foreign sources...over $1.2 million was hidden by straw donors....but in turn it also prevented the sharing of foreign and domestic intelligence.

Bush assigned Stanley McChrystal as the commander of Joint Special Operation Command from 2003-2008...Under McChrystal JSOC had a dramatic change in worldwide intelligence....he successfully combined military, domestic and international intelligence to form a worldwide sharing of intelligence data.....and Obama continues JSCO...they were responsible for Bin Laden's demise.

Legislation put forth by President George Walker Bush, and a new oversight agency created after the attack, remedied this fatal error and gathers intelligence from all agencies. How many fatal Islamic Terrorist attacks...until President Barack Hussein Obama, did we have?

One needs hip-waders to wade through the above BS; the normal galoshes won't do. Only semi-rational poster Markle can turn a plate full of baloney into filet mignon......  

Markle wrote:

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:

Markle wrote:

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:

KarlRove wrote:Wasnt it Clinton who pretty much ignored the FIRat WTC attack by the Blind Sheik? Yes it was

There you go, blaming Clinton for something that happened under Dubya's watch. He was sleeping at the wheel; the reason the attacks happened.

You know the facts, yet you can't resist lying can you?  You have known the truth for many years but it really stings doesn't it?

Keep up the good work.  As a reminder....

Once AGAIN for the very, very S-L-O-W!

As you well know, President William Jefferson Clinton erected a wall of silence between each of the 16 or 17 intelligence agencies so they were NOT able to communicate. The IDEA was admirable.  To prevent security leaks through different agencies having access to top secret information.  That was also the fatal error.

The agency who learned that Muslim's were taking flight lessons, and not particularly interested in landing or taking off, were NOT allowed to communicate that information to the agency that learned that al Qaeda was planning to use aircraft to launch a terrorist attack. Yet another agency that picked up increased "chatter" concerning an attack, could not communicate that to the other agencies and on, and on and on.

There was NO LEGAL WAY for them to connect the dots. It was done in the interest of security. Someone in one agency, would not find out what was known in another.

After President George Bush brought down the Gorelick Wall of Silence.... the pre-Patriot Act "wall" prevented foreign intelligence and criminal investigative communities from collaborating. ... the wall barred anti-terror investigators from accessing the computer of Moussaoui, the 20th hijacker.

The wall was originally erected by Jamie Gorelick to hide contributions to Clinton's presidential campaign from foreign sources...over $1.2 million was hidden by straw donors....but in turn it also prevented the sharing of foreign and domestic intelligence.

Bush assigned Stanley McChrystal as the commander of Joint Special Operation Command from 2003-2008...Under McChrystal JSOC had a dramatic change in worldwide intelligence....he successfully combined military, domestic and international intelligence to form a worldwide sharing of intelligence data.....and Obama continues JSCO...they were responsible for Bin Laden's demise.

Legislation put forth by President George Walker Bush, and a new oversight agency created after the attack, remedied this fatal error and gathers intelligence from all agencies. How many fatal Islamic Terrorist attacks...until President Barack Hussein Obama, did we have?

One needs hip-waders to wade through the above BS; the normal galoshes won't do. Only semi-rational poster Markle can turn a plate full of baloney into filet mignon......  

So, once again, you have nothing but childish, kindergarten whining.  

I do appreciate you being such a fine foil, much like my friend 2seaoat.

Markle wrote:

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:

KarlRove wrote:Wasnt it Clinton who pretty much ignored the FIRat WTC attack by the Blind Sheik? Yes it was

There you go, blaming Clinton for something that happened under Dubya's watch. He was sleeping at the wheel; the reason the attacks happened.

You know the facts, yet you can't resist lying can you?  You have known the truth for many years but it really stings doesn't it?

Keep up the good work.  As a reminder....

Once AGAIN for the very, very S-L-O-W!

As you well know, President William Jefferson Clinton erected a wall of silence between each of the 16 or 17 intelligence agencies so they were NOT able to communicate. The IDEA was admirable.  To prevent security leaks through different agencies having access to top secret information.  That was also the fatal error.

The agency who learned that Muslim's were taking flight lessons, and not particularly interested in landing or taking off, were NOT allowed to communicate that information to the agency that learned that al Qaeda was planning to use aircraft to launch a terrorist attack. Yet another agency that picked up increased "chatter" concerning an attack, could not communicate that to the other agencies and on, and on and on.

There was NO LEGAL WAY for them to connect the dots. It was done in the interest of security. Someone in one agency, would not find out what was known in another.

After President George Bush brought down the Gorelick Wall of Silence.... the pre-Patriot Act "wall" prevented foreign intelligence and criminal investigative communities from collaborating. ... the wall barred anti-terror investigators from accessing the computer of Moussaoui, the 20th hijacker.

The wall was originally erected by Jamie Gorelick to hide contributions to Clinton's presidential campaign from foreign sources...over $1.2 million was hidden by straw donors....but in turn it also prevented the sharing of foreign and domestic intelligence.

Bush assigned Stanley McChrystal as the commander of Joint Special Operation Command from 2003-2008...Under McChrystal JSOC had a dramatic change in worldwide intelligence....he successfully combined military, domestic and international intelligence to form a worldwide sharing of intelligence data.....and Obama continues JSCO...they were responsible for Bin Laden's demise.

Legislation put forth by President George Walker Bush, and a new oversight agency created after the attack, remedied this fatal error and gathers intelligence from all agencies. How many fatal Islamic Terrorist attacks...until President Barack Hussein Obama, did we have?

Markle wrote:

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:

Markle wrote:

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:

KarlRove wrote:Wasnt it Clinton who pretty much ignored the FIRat WTC attack by the Blind Sheik? Yes it was

There you go, blaming Clinton for something that happened under Dubya's watch. He was sleeping at the wheel; the reason the attacks happened.

You know the facts, yet you can't resist lying can you?  You have known the truth for many years but it really stings doesn't it?

Keep up the good work.  As a reminder....

Once AGAIN for the very, very S-L-O-W!

As you well know, President William Jefferson Clinton erected a wall of silence between each of the 16 or 17 intelligence agencies so they were NOT able to communicate. The IDEA was admirable.  To prevent security leaks through different agencies having access to top secret information.  That was also the fatal error.

The agency who learned that Muslim's were taking flight lessons, and not particularly interested in landing or taking off, were NOT allowed to communicate that information to the agency that learned that al Qaeda was planning to use aircraft to launch a terrorist attack. Yet another agency that picked up increased "chatter" concerning an attack, could not communicate that to the other agencies and on, and on and on.

There was NO LEGAL WAY for them to connect the dots. It was done in the interest of security. Someone in one agency, would not find out what was known in another.

After President George Bush brought down the Gorelick Wall of Silence.... the pre-Patriot Act "wall" prevented foreign intelligence and criminal investigative communities from collaborating. ... the wall barred anti-terror investigators from accessing the computer of Moussaoui, the 20th hijacker.

The wall was originally erected by Jamie Gorelick to hide contributions to Clinton's presidential campaign from foreign sources...over $1.2 million was hidden by straw donors....but in turn it also prevented the sharing of foreign and domestic intelligence.

Bush assigned Stanley McChrystal as the commander of Joint Special Operation Command from 2003-2008...Under McChrystal JSOC had a dramatic change in worldwide intelligence....he successfully combined military, domestic and international intelligence to form a worldwide sharing of intelligence data.....and Obama continues JSCO...they were responsible for Bin Laden's demise.

Legislation put forth by President George Walker Bush, and a new oversight agency created after the attack, remedied this fatal error and gathers intelligence from all agencies. How many fatal Islamic Terrorist attacks...until President Barack Hussein Obama, did we have?

One needs hip-waders to wade through the above BS; the normal galoshes won't do. Only semi-rational poster Markle can turn a plate full of baloney into filet mignon......  

So, once again, you have nothing but childish, kindergarten whining.  

I do appreciate you being such a fine foil, much like my friend 2seaoat.

boards of FL wrote:Obama's legacy is basically solidified at this point.  He inherited what is probably the worst situation of any president ever and since then we have seen improvement in just about any metric that you can measure.  Healthcare access has expanded, millions of jobs have been added the the economy, the stock market continues to break records, the Bush wars ended, bin Laden was finally killed, relations with Cuba are normalizing, immigration reform was achieved through executive action, the annual deficit has been cut by more than half and continues to decline faster than at any point since WWII, etc., etc.

If republicans had any real substantive complaints to offer, they wouldn't have to continually fabricate "scandals".  See the Clinton years.  History is repeating itself.  

When republicans are running things, the complaints are real.  Worst economy since the great depression.  Two wars.  Ballooning deficits that manifest from a combination of regressive tax cuts, wars, medicare prescription drug plans, and low tax revenue from a terrible economy.

Now that we have a democrat in office and the ship has been righted, we're back to republican "scandals".  Blowjobs.  Gay people getting the same rights as the rest of us.  Benghazi!!!  IRS!!!

KarlRove wrote:

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:

Markle wrote:

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:

Markle wrote:

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:

KarlRove wrote:Wasnt it Clinton who pretty much ignored the FIRat WTC attack by the Blind Sheik? Yes it was

There you go, blaming Clinton for something that happened under Dubya's watch. He was sleeping at the wheel; the reason the attacks happened.

You know the facts, yet you can't resist lying can you?  You have known the truth for many years but it really stings doesn't it?

Keep up the good work.  As a reminder....

Once AGAIN for the very, very S-L-O-W!

As you well know, President William Jefferson Clinton erected a wall of silence between each of the 16 or 17 intelligence agencies so they were NOT able to communicate. The IDEA was admirable.  To prevent security leaks through different agencies having access to top secret information.  That was also the fatal error.

The agency who learned that Muslim's were taking flight lessons, and not particularly interested in landing or taking off, were NOT allowed to communicate that information to the agency that learned that al Qaeda was planning to use aircraft to launch a terrorist attack. Yet another agency that picked up increased "chatter" concerning an attack, could not communicate that to the other agencies and on, and on and on.

There was NO LEGAL WAY for them to connect the dots. It was done in the interest of security. Someone in one agency, would not find out what was known in another.

After President George Bush brought down the Gorelick Wall of Silence.... the pre-Patriot Act "wall" prevented foreign intelligence and criminal investigative communities from collaborating. ... the wall barred anti-terror investigators from accessing the computer of Moussaoui, the 20th hijacker.

The wall was originally erected by Jamie Gorelick to hide contributions to Clinton's presidential campaign from foreign sources...over $1.2 million was hidden by straw donors....but in turn it also prevented the sharing of foreign and domestic intelligence.

Bush assigned Stanley McChrystal as the commander of Joint Special Operation Command from 2003-2008...Under McChrystal JSOC had a dramatic change in worldwide intelligence....he successfully combined military, domestic and international intelligence to form a worldwide sharing of intelligence data.....and Obama continues JSCO...they were responsible for Bin Laden's demise.

Legislation put forth by President George Walker Bush, and a new oversight agency created after the attack, remedied this fatal error and gathers intelligence from all agencies. How many fatal Islamic Terrorist attacks...until President Barack Hussein Obama, did we have?

One needs hip-waders to wade through the above BS; the normal galoshes won't do. Only semi-rational poster Markle can turn a plate full of baloney into filet mignon......  

So, once again, you have nothing but childish, kindergarten whining.  

I do appreciate you being such a fine foil, much like my friend 2seaoat.

I hope you are comfy on your chaise lounge as you float down DENIAL River.

polecat wrote:

KarlRove wrote:

I wonder if you would show the same love for a government law enforcement official if the teabagging idiots at the Bundy ranch had killed one?