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Sal
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26Look For A Mail Slowdown - Page 2 Empty Re: Look For A Mail Slowdown 1/26/2015, 5:19 pm

Guest


Guest

Because usps doesn't have to operate in real world models... it doesn't even have to break even... decade after decade.

And to be honest I don't mind the govt providing this service... but the cronyism and corruption and waste must go.

Price it to cover the liabilities and at minimum break the fuck even. Radical... I know.

27Look For A Mail Slowdown - Page 2 Empty Re: Look For A Mail Slowdown 1/26/2015, 5:25 pm

Sal

Sal

PkrBum wrote:at minimum break the fuck even. Radical... I know.

If Congress would stop throwing monkey wrenches into the works, they'd do just that.

28Look For A Mail Slowdown - Page 2 Empty Re: Look For A Mail Slowdown 1/26/2015, 5:44 pm

Guest


Guest

Sal wrote:
PkrBum wrote:at minimum break the fuck even. Radical... I know.

If Congress would stop throwing monkey wrenches into the works, they'd do just that.

Bs... google usps corruption... there are page after page of backdoor deals, fraud, waste, incompetence... etc.

I'm not trying to say they're the only boondoggle govt agency... far from it. We may as well just fund the whole deal and deliver the mail for "free". I can see the socialist sales pitch now... single carrier... lol. Bureaucracy is a hell of a tool comrade.

29Look For A Mail Slowdown - Page 2 Empty Re: Look For A Mail Slowdown 1/26/2015, 6:13 pm

Guest


Guest

Sal wrote:
SheWrites wrote:We have UPS, DHS, FED EX, etc., not to mention that we get bills via email and text.  We pay bills through electronic bill pay. Why is the USPS needed??


Those companies combined have a fraction of the infrastructure that the USPS has in place, and they are deeply reliant on the USPS for many of their services.

Sell the infrastructure to these companies. It's time for the old horse to go to pasture.

30Look For A Mail Slowdown - Page 2 Empty Re: Look For A Mail Slowdown 1/26/2015, 6:53 pm

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boards of FL

PkrBum wrote:Price it to cover the liabilities and at minimum break the fuck even. Radical... I know.


http://about.usps.com/who-we-are/financials/10k-reports/fy2014.pdf


Scroll down to page 13 to see their financials.

They would have broken even or better over the last two years if not for the constraints imposed by republicans in 2006 - which adds $5.5 billion to their operating expenses annually.


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31Look For A Mail Slowdown - Page 2 Empty Re: Look For A Mail Slowdown 1/26/2015, 7:39 pm

Sal

Sal

SheWrites wrote:
Sal wrote:
SheWrites wrote:We have UPS, DHS, FED EX, etc., not to mention that we get bills via email and text.  We pay bills through electronic bill pay. Why is the USPS needed??


Those companies combined have a fraction of the infrastructure that the USPS has in place, and they are deeply reliant on the USPS for many of their services.

Sell the infrastructure to these companies.  It's time for the old horse to go to pasture.  

Yes, let's sell the decades old taxpayer investment for pennies on the dollar in exchange for third world service at higher prices.

You're a shrewd business woman.

32Look For A Mail Slowdown - Page 2 Empty Re: Look For A Mail Slowdown 1/26/2015, 8:06 pm

Guest


Guest

Sal wrote:
SheWrites wrote:
Sal wrote:
SheWrites wrote:We have UPS, DHS, FED EX, etc., not to mention that we get bills via email and text.  We pay bills through electronic bill pay. Why is the USPS needed??


Those companies combined have a fraction of the infrastructure that the USPS has in place, and they are deeply reliant on the USPS for many of their services.

Sell the infrastructure to these companies.  It's time for the old horse to go to pasture.  

Yes, let's sell the decades old taxpayer investment for pennies on the dollar in exchange for third world service at higher prices.

You're a shrewd business woman.


Whatever, Sal. Whatever. Taxpayer investment? Hilarious.

33Look For A Mail Slowdown - Page 2 Empty Re: Look For A Mail Slowdown 1/26/2015, 8:28 pm

Sal

Sal

SheWrites wrote:
Sal wrote:
SheWrites wrote:
Sal wrote:
SheWrites wrote:We have UPS, DHS, FED EX, etc., not to mention that we get bills via email and text.  We pay bills through electronic bill pay. Why is the USPS needed??


Those companies combined have a fraction of the infrastructure that the USPS has in place, and they are deeply reliant on the USPS for many of their services.

Sell the infrastructure to these companies.  It's time for the old horse to go to pasture.  

Yes, let's sell the decades old taxpayer investment for pennies on the dollar in exchange for third world service at higher prices.

You're a shrewd business woman.


Whatever, Sal.  Whatever.   Taxpayer investment?  Hilarious.  

You're right, of course.

Taxpayers haven't even had to invest in it since the 1970s.

34Look For A Mail Slowdown - Page 2 Empty Re: Look For A Mail Slowdown 1/26/2015, 10:36 pm

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Let's see . . . it costs 41 cents to send a First Class letter.

It costs a helluva lot more to send a letter by UPS or FEDEX.

Am I missing something here?

35Look For A Mail Slowdown - Page 2 Empty Re: Look For A Mail Slowdown 1/27/2015, 12:30 am

Guest


Guest

Wordslinger wrote:Let's see . . . it costs 41 cents to send a First Class letter.

It costs a helluva lot more to send a letter by UPS or FEDEX.

Am I missing something here?

Actually, it's currently 49 cents.

BTW - the USPS will be with us for a while - its existence is mandated by the Constitution - Article I, Section 8 gives Congress the power "To establish Post Offices..."

36Look For A Mail Slowdown - Page 2 Empty Re: Look For A Mail Slowdown 1/27/2015, 1:16 am

Markle

Markle

2seaoat wrote:Here is a suggestion......take 10 billion off direct subsidies to rich farmers and we have solved the problem for the next seventy five years...........of course you love subsidy to the 1%......it is the core of your ad hoc paradigm.  The post office works great.  I have never had a problem, and it is nice once a day to talk to my mailman who comes into the office to pick up the mail.  Those who are getting campaign contributions to carve up the profitable post office routes only to abandon rural America need to be summarily executed in the public square.

Sounds great, we agree on something. Do away with all the subsidies for alcohol production, solar and wind power.

37Look For A Mail Slowdown - Page 2 Empty Re: Look For A Mail Slowdown 1/27/2015, 1:22 am

Markle

Markle

PkrBum wrote:Package shipping is already competitive... the rest of snail mail is going extinct. Why leave an enormous debt?

Cutting govt services sure scares you progressives.

That's an understatement. They're scared to death that voters might find that it works and saves money. Progressives are much like the railroad unions who required a "fireman" ride on the caboose of trains decades after diesels took over from steam locomotives.

38Look For A Mail Slowdown - Page 2 Empty Re: Look For A Mail Slowdown 1/27/2015, 1:36 am

Markle

Markle

Sal wrote:
SheWrites wrote:We have UPS, DHS, FED EX, etc., not to mention that we get bills via email and text.  We pay bills through electronic bill pay. Why is the USPS needed??


Those companies combined have a fraction of the infrastructure that the USPS has in place, and they are deeply reliant on the USPS for many of their services.

Thanks for making the point for shutting down much of the USPS.

YES, they do have the infrastructure in place and that's the problem. It is no longer needed.

Are you aware that the USPS uses FedEx for all their overnight deliveries? That's why FedEx has their boxes outside post offices and none of the other overnight services are allowed.

39Look For A Mail Slowdown - Page 2 Empty Re: Look For A Mail Slowdown 1/27/2015, 1:42 am

Markle

Markle

Wordslinger wrote:Let's see . . . it costs 41 cents to send a First Class letter.

It costs a helluva lot more to send a letter by UPS or FEDEX.

Am I missing something here?

You just can't make these things up!

My Socialist/Communist good friend Wordslinger not only has no clue as to the boiling point of water, he has no clue about the price of a first class letter. Another reason to do away with the majority of the USPS. Common folks don't even know the price of a stamp.

40Look For A Mail Slowdown - Page 2 Empty Re: Look For A Mail Slowdown 1/27/2015, 2:00 am

Markle

Markle

Sal wrote:
SheWrites wrote:
Sal wrote:
SheWrites wrote:We have UPS, DHS, FED EX, etc., not to mention that we get bills via email and text.  We pay bills through electronic bill pay. Why is the USPS needed??


Those companies combined have a fraction of the infrastructure that the USPS has in place, and they are deeply reliant on the USPS for many of their services.

Sell the infrastructure to these companies.  It's time for the old horse to go to pasture.  

Yes, let's sell the decades old taxpayer investment for pennies on the dollar in exchange for third world service at higher prices.

You're a shrewd business woman.

Right, YOU'RE a shrewd business man. One who would keep properties and services that LOSE money rather than cut your losses and move on. BRILLIANT!

41Look For A Mail Slowdown - Page 2 Empty Re: Look For A Mail Slowdown 1/27/2015, 6:35 am

2seaoat



We use a data base, and send the same to Vista Print who prepares direct mailings of post cards. A huge success for us and other businesses. The postal service kicks the snot out of the private carriers in certain areas, and the lobbyist want to close down those advantages, and pick up the profitable routes. The Post office is kicking asz but for the accounting. I totally depend on it in one of my business interests in a rural area.

42Look For A Mail Slowdown - Page 2 Empty Re: Look For A Mail Slowdown 1/27/2015, 6:39 am

2seaoat



Sounds great, we agree on something. Do away with all the subsidies for alcohol production, solar and wind power.

Nope, I am saying take 10 billion away from corporate and individual farm subsidies. No problem with taking the ethanol subsidy away. Increase the wind and solar subsidies.

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