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TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

http://www.garynorth.com/public/13371.cfm

Pharaoh saw the necessity of protecting his nation’s resources from the prolific Israelites. Three and a half millennia later, fearful and defensive socialists have similar concerns. Bertrand Russell, the British socialist philosopher and mathematician, saw clearly the dilemma of socialism: to produce rising per capita wealth, low-productivity socialism requires zero population growth. Socialism also still requires the imposition of harsh penalties against rival populations that continue to grow, just as it did in ancient Egypt.
He wrote in 1923:

Socialism, especially international socialism, is only possible as a stable system if the population is stationary or nearly so. A slow increase might be coped with by improvements in agricultural methods, but a rapid increase must in the end reduce the whole population to penury, and would be almost certain to cause wars. In view of the fact that the population of France has become stationary, and the birth rate has declined enormously among other white nations, it may be hoped that the white population of the world will soon cease to increase. The Asiatic races will be longer, and the negroes still longer, before their birth-rate falls sufficiently to make their numbers stable without the help of war and pestilence. But it is to be hoped that the religious prejudices which have hitherto hampered the spread of birth control will die out, and that within (say) two hundred years the whole world will learn not to be unduly prolific. Until that happens, the benefits aimed at by socialism can only be partially realized, and the less prolific races will have to defend themselves against the more prolific by methods which are disgusting even if they are necessary. In the meantime, therefore, our socialistic aspirations have to be confined to the white races, perhaps with the inclusion of the Japanese and Chinese at no distant date. [Bertrand Russell, The Prospects of Industrial Civilization, 2nd ed. (London: George Allen & Unwin, 1959), p. 273. First edition: 1923. He did not change his views enough to warrant a revision of this passage.]


.............What bothers Leftists today is this. Their programs of wealth confiscation in the name of the poor have produced the obvious result: single welfare mothers who have numerous children, because they know that they can get state and federal money when they have these children. Welfare mothers are not stupid. They are milking the system. The Leftists are appalled by the outcome of their policies. They find, lo and behold, that when the state subsidizes poverty, we get more poverty. The free market responds to incentives. Will wonders never cease?

So, they are schizophrenic. They have always been schizophrenic. On the one hand, they justify taxing the middle-class to finance the poor. They also make certain that their own tax advantages keep them from being taxed as heavily as the middle class. Then they are trapped. Red ink overwhelms national governments. The politicians need to have workers to support the welfare state, but the bastard adult children of the single mothers, who have grown up under the tender mercies of the welfare state's bureaucracies, don't want to work. They want to stay on the dole. Where are the central planners going to find productive citizens who will be capable of paying the taxes to support the present welfare state recipients? This includes a vast and growing army of old people, who are about to tap into the biggest welfare state operations in the history of mankind. It's tough to be a Leftist.

Guest


Guest

Clearly put... but leftists don't pay attention to results and won't until the system fails... if then.

It's just not normal human action... it requires conditioning and indoctrination.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan


How do you find these lunatic fringers, Teo?

https://thesuperstitiousnakedape.wordpress.com/2013/06/30/christian-taliban/

You might appreciate this on Socialism PkrBum. Gary-north

Don’t let the seemingly harmless grandfatherly appearance of this man fool you. Gary North is not someone you want anywhere near your enemies, let alone your family. North publishes Christian Reconstructionist and homeschooling books, is the founder of the Institute for Christian Economics, is an adjunct scholar with the Ludwig von Mises Institute, is presently writing an education curriculum for Congressman Ron Paul, owns Dominion Educational Ministries Inc. (which operates day care centers), and believes children should be put to death by stoning in public squares for cursing their parents.

“When people [children] curse their parents, it unquestionably is a capital crime. The son or daughter is under the lawful jurisdiction of the family. The integrity of the family must be maintained by the threat of death.”

Gary North is a face of the American Taliban; a leading member of the Christian Reconstructionists; a Dominionism (or Dominion Theology) movement which advocates nothing short of supplanting secular western governments with “Biblical theocratic republics in which every area of life is redeemed and placed under the Lordship of Jesus Christ and the rule of God’s law” (David Barton, Reconstructionist theologian). Or as Gary North put it:

“The long-term goal of Christians in politics should be to gain exclusive control over the franchise. Those who refuse to submit publicly to the eternal sanctions of God by submitting to His Church’s public marks of the covenant–baptism and Holy Communion–must be denied citizenship.”

In North’s mind pluralism is heresy and zero tolerance should be afforded to gays, blasphemers, atheists, agnostics, secularists, apostates, adulterers, unchaste women, and just about everyone else who isn’t a homeschooled Reconstructionist; all of whom North believes should be put to death, and always, he insists, by way of public stoning, as detailed in chapter 6 of his book, The Sinai Strategy: Economics and the Ten Commandments

“Why stoning? There are many reasons. First, the implements of execution are available to everyone at virtually no cost. Second, no one blow can be traced to any person. In other words, no one citizen can regard himself as “the executioner,” the sole cause of another man’s death. Psychologically, this is important; it relieves potential guilt problems in the mind of a sensitive person. Those who abstain from the “dirty business” of enforcing God’s law have a tendency to elevate their behavior as being more moral than the executioner’s, where in point of fact such abstention is itself immoral. Executions are community projects–not with spectators who watch a professional executioner do `his’ duty, but rather with actual participants.”

According to Gary North western civilization’s rejection of public stoning is the product of “God-hating humanistic concepts of justice” which have replaced “the infallible Old Testament;” progressive ideas, he says, that have redefined religiously inspired mob violence as somehow “sinister.”

” That modern Christians never consider the possibility of the re-introduction of stoning for capital crimes indicates how thoroughly humanistic concepts of punishment have influenced the thinking of Christians. If humanistic concepts of punishment have persuaded Christians that there was something sinister about the Old Testament’s specified mode of execution, then we should not be surprised to discover that humanistic concepts of justice, including economic justice, have also become influential in the thinking of Christians. Christians have voluntarily transferred their allegiance from the infallible Old Testament to contemporary God-hating and God-denying criminologists and economists.”

I could go on and fill the next ten pages with psychotic, unbalanced quotes from this man and his deranged Dominionism brethren, but I won’t. Gary North is a mentally sick, emotionally diseased human being and simply isn’t worth the time of day. I will, however, say this: if there is to be any public stoning it should probably start with the hypocrite Gary North himself as the computer into which he writes his demented thoughts was invented by a gay atheist (Alan Turing), runs software inspired by either Bill Gates (atheist) or Steve Jobs (atheist), and is powered by electrical generation and transmission technologies set forth by Nikola Tesla (atheist) and Thomas Edison (apostate/deist)… all soiled men deserving of public execution in the eyes of this Christian lunatic.

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TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

Yeah he's old school circa 1600 s, burn witches old school. He does look quite old though...maybe he will change his mind in the next century. Anyway he probably has some progressive ideas if you search hard. I think humanists are pretty evil myself...cause they actually don't like humans at all.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

TEOTWAWKI wrote:Yeah he's old school circa 1600 s, burn witches old school. He does look quite old though...maybe he will change his mind in the next century. Anyway he probably has some progressive ideas if you search hard. I think humanists are pretty evil myself...cause they actually don't like humans at all.

Old school? Hell, I'm old-school. He's a raving lunatic.

2seaoat



Tex,
Good research on the author....we need more of that on these crazy posts.

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

Yeah like Bill Clinton isn't a woman raping loon....you guys are very selective who you call lunatics....

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

TEOTWAWKI wrote:Yeah like Bill Clinton isn't a woman raping loon....you guys are very selective who you call lunatics....

What else do you call someone who supports stoning of children for not showing proper respect for the parents? And who supports the takeover of the state by religious entitles? That's a very good description of what should be termed the American Taliban...AND this guy has absolutely no grasp of economic principles...or if he does he hides it well...that diatribe against socialism is textbook Reaganomics.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

I, for one, very strongly believe that the mass of workers who actually expend energy and produce, build and create things should actually rule in a real democracy. That makes me a true socialist.

True capitalists believe that only the wealthy are fit to rule.

Screw Amerika Inc.! Corporate control of our government through campaign financing.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Floridatexan wrote:
How do you find these lunatic fringers, Teo?  

https://thesuperstitiousnakedape.wordpress.com/2013/06/30/christian-taliban/

You might appreciate this on Socialism PkrBum. Gary-north

Don’t let the seemingly harmless grandfatherly appearance of this man fool you. Gary North is not someone you want anywhere near your enemies, let alone your family. North publishes Christian Reconstructionist and homeschooling books, is the founder of the Institute for Christian Economics, is an adjunct scholar with the Ludwig von Mises Institute, is presently writing an education curriculum for Congressman Ron Paul, owns Dominion Educational Ministries Inc. (which operates day care centers), and believes children should be put to death by stoning in public squares for cursing their parents.

“When people [children] curse their parents, it unquestionably is a capital crime. The son or daughter is under the lawful jurisdiction of the family. The integrity of the family must be maintained by the threat of death.”          

Gary North is a face of the American Taliban; a leading member of the Christian Reconstructionists; a Dominionism (or Dominion Theology) movement which advocates nothing short of supplanting secular western governments with “Biblical theocratic republics in which every area of life is redeemed and placed under the Lordship of Jesus Christ and the rule of God’s law” (David Barton, Reconstructionist theologian). Or as Gary North put it:

“The long-term goal of Christians in politics should be to gain exclusive control over the franchise. Those who refuse to submit publicly to the eternal sanctions of God by submitting to His Church’s public marks of the covenant–baptism and Holy Communion–must be denied citizenship.”

In North’s mind pluralism is heresy and zero tolerance should be afforded to gays, blasphemers, atheists, agnostics, secularists, apostates, adulterers, unchaste women, and just about everyone else who isn’t a homeschooled Reconstructionist; all of whom North believes should be put to death, and always, he insists, by way of public stoning, as detailed in chapter 6 of his book, The Sinai Strategy: Economics and the Ten Commandments

“Why stoning? There are many reasons. First, the implements of execution are available to everyone at virtually no cost. Second, no one blow can be traced to any person. In other words, no one citizen can regard himself as “the executioner,” the sole cause of another man’s death. Psychologically, this is important; it relieves potential guilt problems in the mind of a sensitive person. Those who abstain from the “dirty business” of enforcing God’s law have a tendency to elevate their behavior as being more moral than the executioner’s, where in point of fact such abstention is itself immoral. Executions are community projects–not with spectators who watch a professional executioner do `his’ duty, but rather with actual participants.”

According to Gary North western civilization’s rejection of public stoning is the product of “God-hating humanistic concepts of justice” which have replaced “the infallible Old Testament;” progressive ideas, he says, that have redefined religiously inspired mob violence as somehow “sinister.”

” That modern Christians never consider the possibility of the re-introduction of stoning for capital crimes indicates how thoroughly humanistic concepts of punishment have influenced the thinking of Christians. If humanistic concepts of punishment have persuaded Christians that there was something sinister about the Old Testament’s specified mode of execution, then we should not be surprised to discover that humanistic concepts of justice, including economic justice, have also become influential in the thinking of Christians. Christians have voluntarily transferred their allegiance from the infallible Old Testament to contemporary God-hating and God-denying criminologists and economists.”

I could go on and fill the next ten pages with psychotic, unbalanced quotes from this man and his deranged Dominionism brethren, but I won’t. Gary North is a mentally sick, emotionally diseased human being and simply isn’t worth the time of day. I will, however, say this: if there is to be any public stoning it should probably start with the hypocrite Gary North himself as the computer into which he writes his demented thoughts was invented by a gay atheist (Alan Turing), runs software inspired by either Bill Gates (atheist) or Steve Jobs (atheist), and is powered by electrical generation and transmission technologies set forth by Nikola Tesla (atheist) and Thomas Edison (apostate/deist)… all soiled men deserving of public execution in the eyes of this Christian lunatic.

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This guy's absolute proof fundamentalist religious folks are pure evil.

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