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American Smiper is BS only if you were ashamed of your own service and you know you didn't contribute

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KarlRove

KarlRove

Wordslinger wrote:
gatorfan wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
gatorfan wrote:
2seaoat wrote: I am certain innocent people were killed, and I am certain folks were killed who if they were not shot would have hurt our troops.   Heroic.   I have another concept for the same.

Innocents are FAR less likely to be killed or wounded by a sniper than - let's say - a missile fired from a drone. You know - the current administrations favorite tool for scratching names off a certain Presidents kill list.....the collateral damage - women, kids, American citizens are just unlucky they were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Right?

First, my problem with the American Sniper film isn't because "innocents" were killed by Chris Kyle.  In the film, every one of Kyle's targets was an active opponent against American troops.  I'm not a great fan of drone warfare either.

The thing I object to in the movie, was that Iraqi freedom fighters (yes, that's what most of them were) -- were resisting unlawful invasion and occupation by a foreign army.  If you're the invader, anyone who resists you is an "insurgent."  If someone invades your country and you fight against their presence, you're a Patriot.

I can't speak to the movie because I haven't and don't intend to see it. One other thing to keep in mind, even though it's a major mistake for us to fight anywhere in the Mideast over "terrorist threats" I do know most of the insurgents, if that's what you want to call them, aren't from the various countries they are fighting in. Most are simply mercenaries being paid to fight for the real terrorists who are really only after power and money, the root cause of most "wars" in spite of rhetoric to the contrary.


During the Iraq war, foreign Muslim fighters, including those of Al Qaida, were greatly outnumbered by Iraqi Sunni fighters whom we stupidly made our number one enemy.

The Sunni in Iraq were a MINORITY gumby. 60/40 split.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

KarlRove wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
gatorfan wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
gatorfan wrote:
2seaoat wrote: I am certain innocent people were killed, and I am certain folks were killed who if they were not shot would have hurt our troops.   Heroic.   I have another concept for the same.

Innocents are FAR less likely to be killed or wounded by a sniper than - let's say - a missile fired from a drone. You know - the current administrations favorite tool for scratching names off a certain Presidents kill list.....the collateral damage - women, kids, American citizens are just unlucky they were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Right?

First, my problem with the American Sniper film isn't because "innocents" were killed by Chris Kyle.  In the film, every one of Kyle's targets was an active opponent against American troops.  I'm not a great fan of drone warfare either.

The thing I object to in the movie, was that Iraqi freedom fighters (yes, that's what most of them were) -- were resisting unlawful invasion and occupation by a foreign army.  If you're the invader, anyone who resists you is an "insurgent."  If someone invades your country and you fight against their presence, you're a Patriot.

I can't speak to the movie because I haven't and don't intend to see it. One other thing to keep in mind, even though it's a major mistake for us to fight anywhere in the Mideast over "terrorist threats" I do know most of the insurgents, if that's what you want to call them, aren't from the various countries they are fighting in. Most are simply mercenaries being paid to fight for the real terrorists who are really only after power and money, the root cause of most "wars" in spite of rhetoric to the contrary.


During the Iraq war, foreign Muslim fighters, including those of Al Qaida, were greatly outnumbered by Iraqi Sunni fighters whom we stupidly made our number one enemy.

The Sunni in Iraq were a MINORITY gumby. 60/40 split.


War Hero:  You're absolutely right.  There are more Shiias than Sunnis in Iraq.  Where did I say otherwise?  You need serious help War Hero with your reading and comprehension.  Gatorfan stated that there were more foreign fighters in Iraq than Iraqi insurgents.  That was incorrect.  The bulk of Iraqi "insurgents" were Iraqi Sunnis, not al Qaida or other foreign fighters.

With our normal stupid neocon approach to understanding the Mideast, we went into Iraq to depose Saddam and at the same time fired all the Sunnis who, under him had held most governmental posts.  We also disbanded Saddam's army which was headed by Sunnis.

With stupidity, not unlike your own, we created the bulk of our opponents in Iraq.


You lose again, idiot.

KarlRove

KarlRove

Always crawfishing aren't you?

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

KarlRove wrote:Always crawfishing aren't you?

Crickets asshole. Bye bye little boy.

Markle

Markle

Wordslinger wrote:
gatorfan wrote:
2seaoat wrote: I am certain innocent people were killed, and I am certain folks were killed who if they were not shot would have hurt our troops.   Heroic.   I have another concept for the same.

Innocents are FAR less likely to be killed or wounded by a sniper than - let's say - a missile fired from a drone. You know - the current administrations favorite tool for scratching names off a certain Presidents kill list.....the collateral damage - women, kids, American citizens are just unlucky they were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Right?

First, my problem with the American Sniper film isn't because "innocents" were killed by Chris Kyle.  In the film, every one of Kyle's targets was an active opponent against American troops.  I'm not a great fan of drone warfare either.

The thing I object to in the movie, was that Iraqi freedom fighters (yes, that's what most of them were) -- were resisting unlawful invasion and occupation by a foreign army.  If you're the invader, anyone who resists you is an "insurgent."  If someone invades your country and you fight against their presence, you're a Patriot.

American Smiper is BS only if you were ashamed of your own service and you know you didn't contribute  - Page 2 Stirthepot-1

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Markle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
gatorfan wrote:
2seaoat wrote: I am certain innocent people were killed, and I am certain folks were killed who if they were not shot would have hurt our troops.   Heroic.   I have another concept for the same.

Innocents are FAR less likely to be killed or wounded by a sniper than - let's say - a missile fired from a drone. You know - the current administrations favorite tool for scratching names off a certain Presidents kill list.....the collateral damage - women, kids, American citizens are just unlucky they were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Right?

First, my problem with the American Sniper film isn't because "innocents" were killed by Chris Kyle.  In the film, every one of Kyle's targets was an active opponent against American troops.  I'm not a great fan of drone warfare either.

The thing I object to in the movie, was that Iraqi freedom fighters (yes, that's what most of them were) -- were resisting unlawful invasion and occupation by a foreign army.  If you're the invader, anyone who resists you is an "insurgent."  If someone invades your country and you fight against their presence, you're a Patriot.

American Smiper is BS only if you were ashamed of your own service and you know you didn't contribute  - Page 2 Stirthepot-1


Hey folks, once again when he has nothing to say in the debate that's taking place, Semi-sane Markle races to his basked of cut and paste cliches. I can't help smiling at his desperation ...

KarlRove

KarlRove

It's funny .... You claim that
Most of the fighters in Iraq were from other places and not Iraq., Thm you claim that they are iRaqi freedom fighters in another post. How can they be Iraqi Fredom fighters if t get aren't from Iraq,?

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

KarlRove wrote:It's funny .... You claim that
Most of the fighters in Iraq were from other places and not Iraq., Thm you claim that they are iRaqi freedom fighters in another post. How can they be Iraqi Fredom fighters if t get aren't from Iraq,?


Not sure whom you are directing this to ... if me, find me the place where I said that most of the fighters in Iraq were from other places.

I never said that. I corrected Gatorfan who did indicate that was the case.

You're wrong here, flat ass wrong. Will you admit it? I doubt it. You haven't the intellect or the grace for such a gesture.

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