Is this a racist remark?

2seaoat wrote:Old white people........that is descriptive and as one of that class, I find NOTHING racist about the same.   Jim Crow and the attitudes toward others in this nation will largely be buried with those of us who lived Jim Crow.  Young people have had a great role model in President Obama, much different than when I was a child where blacks were not in film or commercials.  Racism will never be totally eliminated, but in the next 25 years, much of it will be buried.

2seaoat wrote:What a load of hooey. You think anyone who disagrees with an Obama policy is a racist. You require no other evidence.......the major reason folks think racism is a crisis in this country is because people like you keep it alive and well with your usually unfounded criticisms.


I disagree with most of his domestic policies, and I voted for his opponents in 2008 and 2012, but I sure as hell have extended my respect to the man who is my President.   You ignore the Dixiecrats and the old confederacy still trying to take rights away from people of color.   Racism is alive and well in America, and it is being utilized by the 1% to divide and conquer the American people as the once solid Democratic South has transitioned under the Southern strategy to the Republican Party.  The hate and disrespect for the President originates from that base, and it allows the economic exploitation of all Americans.   I may be dirt poor, have no skills or education, but at least I feel superior to black and brown people by the status of my race.......that ugly stain on America will be diminished as will the influence of those who sell that lie.   The demographics will seal the deal.

gatorfan wrote:

2seaoat wrote:What a load of hooey. You think anyone who disagrees with an Obama policy is a racist. You require no other evidence.......the major reason folks think racism is a crisis in this country is because people like you keep it alive and well with your usually unfounded criticisms.


I disagree with most of his domestic policies, and I voted for his opponents in 2008 and 2012, but I sure as hell have extended my respect to the man who is my President.   You ignore the Dixiecrats and the old confederacy still trying to take rights away from people of color.   Racism is alive and well in America, and it is being utilized by the 1% to divide and conquer the American people as the once solid Democratic South has transitioned under the Southern strategy to the Republican Party.  The hate and disrespect for the President originates from that base, and it allows the economic exploitation of all Americans.   I may be dirt poor, have no skills or education, but at least I feel superior to black and brown people by the status of my race.......that ugly stain on America will be diminished as will the influence of those who sell that lie.   The demographics will seal the deal.

You would do well to leave the 50's - this is 2014.......but some people can't leave the past behind.

gatorfan wrote:

You would do well to leave the 50's - this is 2014.......but some people can't leave the past behind.

knothead wrote:

gatorfan wrote:

2seaoat wrote:What a load of hooey. You think anyone who disagrees with an Obama policy is a racist. You require no other evidence.......the major reason folks think racism is a crisis in this country is because people like you keep it alive and well with your usually unfounded criticisms.


I disagree with most of his domestic policies, and I voted for his opponents in 2008 and 2012, but I sure as hell have extended my respect to the man who is my President.   You ignore the Dixiecrats and the old confederacy still trying to take rights away from people of color.   Racism is alive and well in America, and it is being utilized by the 1% to divide and conquer the American people as the once solid Democratic South has transitioned under the Southern strategy to the Republican Party.  The hate and disrespect for the President originates from that base, and it allows the economic exploitation of all Americans.   I may be dirt poor, have no skills or education, but at least I feel superior to black and brown people by the status of my race.......that ugly stain on America will be diminished as will the influence of those who sell that lie.   The demographics will seal the deal.

You would do well to leave the 50's - this is 2014.......but some people can't leave the past behind.

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I think it is a clear case of you being in denial as Mr. Oats words ring true.

Sal wrote:

gatorfan wrote:

You would do well to leave the 50's - this is 2014.......but some people can't leave the past behind.

gatorfan wrote:

Sal wrote:

gatorfan wrote:

You would do well to leave the 50's - this is 2014.......but some people can't leave the past behind.

You are getting as bad as Markle reposting stuff. Can't you come up with something new? Those little cartoons are not indicative of the true mindset of the vast majority in this country, as much as you and 2SO like to think. (and I use that word loosely)

gatorfan wrote:
You are getting as bad as Markle reposting stuff. Can't you come up with something new? Those little cartoons are not indicative of the true mindset of the vast majority in this country, as much as you and 2SO like to think. (and I use that word loosely)

knothead wrote:

gatorfan wrote:

2seaoat wrote:What a load of hooey. You think anyone who disagrees with an Obama policy is a racist. You require no other evidence.......the major reason folks think racism is a crisis in this country is because people like you keep it alive and well with your usually unfounded criticisms.


I disagree with most of his domestic policies, and I voted for his opponents in 2008 and 2012, but I sure as hell have extended my respect to the man who is my President.   You ignore the Dixiecrats and the old confederacy still trying to take rights away from people of color.   Racism is alive and well in America, and it is being utilized by the 1% to divide and conquer the American people as the once solid Democratic South has transitioned under the Southern strategy to the Republican Party.  The hate and disrespect for the President originates from that base, and it allows the economic exploitation of all Americans.   I may be dirt poor, have no skills or education, but at least I feel superior to black and brown people by the status of my race.......that ugly stain on America will be diminished as will the influence of those who sell that lie.   The demographics will seal the deal.

You would do well to leave the 50's - this is 2014.......but some people can't leave the past behind.

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I think it is a clear case of you being in denial as Mr. Oats words ring true.

gatorfan wrote:

2seaoat wrote:Old white people........that is descriptive and as one of that class, I find NOTHING racist about the same.   Jim Crow and the attitudes toward others in this nation will largely be buried with those of us who lived Jim Crow.  Young people have had a great role model in President Obama, much different than when I was a child where blacks were not in film or commercials.  Racism will never be totally eliminated, but in the next 25 years, much of it will be buried.

What a load of hooey. You think anyone who disagrees with an Obama policy is a racist. You require no other evidence.......the major reason folks think racism is a crisis in this country is because people like you keep it alive and well with your usually unfounded criticisms.

boards of FL wrote:

gatorfan wrote:

2seaoat wrote:.

There are well documented racial gaps that exist in America.  Incarceration rates, income, unemployment, degree of educational attainment, justice, etc...  I would argue that these gaps all exist as remnants of our racist past.  The space between today and segregation is only a few generations.  I think this theory explains these gaps quite well.

Clearly, you throw that logic out of the window and claim that racism is dead and is merely a talking point for liberals.  OK.  Fair enough.  To what do you attribute these gaps then?

gatorfan wrote:You uninformed, narrow minded, bigoted liberals who feel the need to make excuses and point uneducated fingers at a large percentage of the U.S. population based on ill-considered acts of a few need to get over your faux indignation and face reality.

"Democrats' racial attacks 'appalling,' Rice says"

Former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice on Thursday slammed Democrats who sought to use race against Republicans in the midterm elections, saying they were offensive and out of touch.

“The idea that you would play such a card and try fearmongering among minorities just because you disagree with Republicans, that they are somehow all racists, I find it appalling, I find it insulting,” she said on Fox News.

Rice and the show’s co-host, Brian Kilmeade, specifically mentioned the Georgia Democratic Party’s flyers that asked voters to prevent another shooting similar to that in Ferguson, Mo.

“We are not race blind, of course we still have racial tensions in this country. But the United States of America has made enormous progress in race relations and it is still the best place on Earth to be a minority,” Rice said.

She also warned President Obama against issuing an executive order on that would effectively make changes to the country’s immigration policies.

“We can’t have a circumstance in which we are going after a problem as meddlesome and potential divisive as immigration by executive action only,” Rice said. “This has to go through the people’s representatives.”

When asked about the potentially historic candidacy of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in 2016, Rice said that she hopes voters will choose based solely on candidates’ policies. And while Rice said that she was very fond of former Gov. Jeb Bush (R-Fla.), a potential Republican candidate for president, she dismissed any speculation that she might run.

“I am a professor at Stanford, I am a happy professor at Stanford, that’s where I am staying,” she said. “I had a chance to be secretary of State. I’m an international relations specialist; it doesn’t get better than that.”

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/223161-dems-midterm-racial-attacks-appalling-rice-says

gatorfan wrote:

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gatorfan wrote:

2seaoat wrote:.

There are well documented racial gaps that exist in America.  Incarceration rates, income, unemployment, degree of educational attainment, justice, etc...  I would argue that these gaps all exist as remnants of our racist past.  The space between today and segregation is only a few generations.  I think this theory explains these gaps quite well.

Clearly, you throw that logic out of the window and claim that racism is dead and is merely a talking point for liberals.  OK.  Fair enough.  To what do you attribute these gaps then?

Oh I never said racism is dead - just that's it's not as wide spread as some on here believe. Did you read my post quoting Condaleeza Rice?

I can agree with some of what you wrote - I wrote a paper MANY years ago in college addressing poverty and crime in large cities and why it's so difficult to break that cycle. Warehousing poor people in "projects" where there is no transportation to good paying jobs all the way down to no large grocery stores forcing them to spend even more money on basic needs. It's a complex problem - some of the issues can be traced to entitlement programs but not all of them.

TEOTWAWKI wrote:cultural values

gatorfan wrote:

boards of FL wrote:

gatorfan wrote:

2seaoat wrote:.

There are well documented racial gaps that exist in America.  Incarceration rates, income, unemployment, degree of educational attainment, justice, etc...  I would argue that these gaps all exist as remnants of our racist past.  The space between today and segregation is only a few generations.  I think this theory explains these gaps quite well.

Clearly, you throw that logic out of the window and claim that racism is dead and is merely a talking point for liberals.  OK.  Fair enough.  To what do you attribute these gaps then?

Oh I never said racism is dead - just that's it's not as wide spread as some on here believe. Did you read my post quoting Condaleeza Rice?

I can agree with some of what you wrote - I wrote a paper MANY years ago in college addressing poverty and crime in large cities and why it's so difficult to break that cycle. Warehousing poor people in "projects" where there is no transportation to good paying jobs all the way down to no large grocery stores forcing them to spend even more money on basic needs. It's a complex problem - some of the issues can be traced to entitlement programs but not all of them.

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gatorfan wrote:

2seaoat wrote:Old white people........that is descriptive and as one of that class, I find NOTHING racist about the same. &nbsp; Jim Crow and the attitudes toward others in this nation will largely be buried with those of us who lived Jim Crow. &nbsp;Young people have had a great role model in President Obama, much different than when I was a child where blacks were not in film or commercials. &nbsp;Racism will never be totally eliminated, but in the next 25 years, much of it will be buried.

What a load of hooey. You think anyone who disagrees with an Obama policy is a racist. You require no other evidence.......the major reason folks think racism is a crisis in this country is because people like you keep it alive and well with your usually unfounded criticisms.

There are well documented racial gaps that exist in America.  Incarceration rates, income, unemployment, degree of educational attainment, justice, etc...  I would argue that these gaps all exist as remnants of our racist past.  The space between today and segregation is only a few generations.  I think this theory explains these gaps quite well.

Clearly, you throw that logic out of the window and claim that racism is dead and is merely a talking point for liberals.  OK.  Fair enough.  To what do you attribute these gaps then?

Vikingwoman wrote:I find it interesting in a discussion about race you bring up black crime? Are you trying to say that justifies racism?