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Senate will go 53 Republican to 47 Democrat in midterm

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Sal
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ZVUGKTUBM
2seaoat
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2seaoat



Not the landslide predicted, but not the 51/49 or 50/50 I predicted. Early voting indicates people are not voting. The good news for Democrats is the 2016 senate races have 23 incumbent Republicans at risk in swing states and that with only a three vote advantage in 2014 when many predicted a seven vote advantage, the magic number in 2016 for a 60 seat majority is only 13 of those 23 at risk seats.

Guest


Guest

Yep giving up are you? Remember, you said the GOp would never take Congress totally after 2010. Took four years, but it's reality. Get use to it.

Guest


Guest

Elections have consequences. mcConnell promises a repeal of most of Obamacare with use of Reconciliation.
Deal with it.

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

The Kansas Senate race will impact the final outcome. It will depend on who Independent Greg Orman decides to caucus with should he unseat  the GOP incumbent (Pat Roberts). I read that Orman hates both the Republicans and Democrats equally.

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ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

Pace Dog the Trash-Talker is already gloating over the election results----just like he is gloating over a perceived twofer for his beloved Seminoles this football season.

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2seaoat



I do not think you grasp what I have posted. The idea of the Democrats retaining the senate had odds makers giving about a three percent chance because of the way every two years certain elections favor one or the other party. This was a banner year for a landslide for the Republicans based on the location of open seats and the timing. 2016 has the landslide going to the democrats based on the location of open seats. The landslide did not happen. I thought at best the Republicans would only get 51. I will be wrong. However, I was correct that this was not a landslide, and they will get nowhere near the 60 that some were boasting. It will be a huge disappointment in regard to 2016 and the number of seats they needed to secure with their advantage. Impeachment is dead, the affordable care act will stand, and unless congress gets to work now without excuse and brings bills good for America, the President will Veto them. Now the governor races were also going to be a landslide and early polls also indicate this is not happening. This was the last cheer for a dying party, and these midterm results seal the deal.

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

PACEDOG#1 wrote:Elections have consequences. mcConnell promises a repeal of most of Obamacare with use of Reconciliation.
Deal with it.

You know that will never happen. That is what filibusters are used for. The GOP has used this tactic handily to stymie legislative progress while they held the minority in the Senate. I expect the Dems will do the same thing.

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2seaoat



Elections have consequences. mcConnell promises a repeal of most of Obamacare with use of Reconciliation.
Deal with it.

You need to learn before speaking about things you know very little about. Repeal requires a presidential signing.........hmmmmm do you understand this?

gatorfan



ZVUGKTUBM wrote:I read that Orman hates both the Republicans and Democrats equally.[/color]

ORMAN for President in '16!

Sal

Sal

Meh.

I've maintained from the beginning that this should be a big election for Republicans.

Too much working against the Democrats in this one - most races being run on Republican's home turf, 6th year of a Democratic Presidency, gerrymandering, midterm turnout blahs, and so on and so forth.

But, the polling has been all over the place, so who the fuck knows.

The one thing that is certain is that should the Repukes win big, they'll overplay their hand, and 2016 will be a much friendlier atmosphere for the Dems.

Guest


Guest

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:
PACEDOG#1 wrote:Elections have consequences. mcConnell promises a repeal of most of Obamacare with use of Reconciliation.
Deal with it.

You know that will never happen. That is what filibusters are used for. The GOP has used this tactic handily to stymie legislative progress while they held the minority in the Senate. I expect the Dems will do the same thing.

You can't filibuster remember....Harry Reid got rid of it. LOLOLOLOL Hate it for you.


http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2013/11/21/nuclear_option_filibuster_reform_passes.html

2seaoat



You can't filibuster remember....Harry Reid got rid of it. LOLOLOLOL Hate it for you.


Again you do not understand. Senate rules will be established when the new congress is seated. The Reid rules may in fact be different than what the new senate votes on. You really have a great deal to learn about how our government works.

knothead

knothead

It actually becomes a non issue because President Obama will veto the non nonsensical bills passed . . . . next question?

Guest


Guest

knothead wrote:It actually becomes a non issue because President Obama will veto the non nonsensical bills passed . . . . next question?

Oh good... the right will now only advance legislation that will press the left to go on record. Seems fair.

If that doesn't work they can change the rules. Yea team... we all lose..!!

knothead

knothead

PkrBum wrote:
knothead wrote:It actually becomes a non issue because President Obama will veto the non nonsensical bills passed . . . . next question?

Oh good... the right will now only advance legislation that will press the left to go on record. Seems fair.

If that doesn't work they can change the rules. Yea team... we all lose..!!

As pathetic as it looks it is true . . . . the years of obstruction by the GOP to bring Obama down will come at a price . . . . . what goes around . . yea team!

Guest


Guest

knothead wrote:
PkrBum wrote:
knothead wrote:It actually becomes a non issue because President Obama will veto the non nonsensical bills passed . . . . next question?

Oh good... the right will now only advance legislation that will press the left to go on record. Seems fair.

If that doesn't work they can change the rules. Yea team... we all lose..!!

As pathetic as it looks it is true . . . . the years of obstruction by the GOP to bring Obama down will come at a price . . . . . what goes around . . yea team!

What price? Obama claims to have cut the deficit... that was inflated by the bush bailout... and then is now the same?

Debt then to now is telling? 10T to 18T in six years years... what reasonable solution includes doubling the debt?

2seaoat



Debt then to now is telling? 10T to 18T in six years years... what reasonable solution includes doubling the debt?

A reasonable solution which stopped a complete collapse of our economic systems.  The 8t will be paid back with inflated dollars as near the end of the President' two terms he will be close to a balanced budget which President Clinton left for President Bush.  Our Balance of trade is kicking asz, so inflating the currency to pay down debt will not hurt real GDP growth, and as the economy recovers, the % of debt to GDP will not be as formidable  or the focus of our economic policies. However, any addressing debt must start with the return of tax rates to the mid eighties, and continued reductions in our military budget.

Guest


Guest

2seaoat wrote:Debt then to now is telling? 10T to 18T in six years years... what reasonable solution includes doubling the debt?

A reasonable solution which stopped a complete collapse of our economic systems.  The 8t will be paid back with inflated dollars as near the end of the President' two terms he will be close to a balanced budget which President Clinton left for President Bush.  Our Balance of trade is kicking asz, so inflating the currency to pay down debt will not hurt real GDP growth, and as the economy recovers, the % of debt to GDP will not be as formidable  or the focus of our economic policies. However, any addressing debt must start with the return of tax rates to the mid eighties, and continued reductions in our military budget.

He's gonna pay back the debt he has doubled about the time that Slick Willie stops frolicking around with interns.

2seaoat



The 53 -47 prediction looks pretty good at this time. Not the landslide, and surprisingly the house has the most Republicans since the end of wwII, but the average gain by the party out of power in a midterm is 29 seats, and this gain will only be 12. This election was a done deal based on the states and candidates up for election this cycle, just like 2016 will be a done deal for the democrats with 23 incumbent Republicans in swing states having the most to lose, and now without the landslide, only 13 net seats needed.

Surprises: Quinn in Il for Gov. he was against a casino in Chicago, and hundreds of million have been lost to Indiana. Also doubling the state income tax does not make friends. Walker in Wisconsin did much better than the polls predicted.

Markle

Markle

2seaoat wrote:Not the landslide predicted, but not the 51/49 or 50/50 I predicted.  Early voting indicates people are not voting.   The good news for Democrats is the 2016 senate races have 23 incumbent Republicans at risk in swing states and that with  only a three vote advantage in 2014 when many predicted a seven vote advantage, the magic number in 2016 for a 60 seat majority is only 13 of those 23 at risk seats.

Ooops...! LANDSLIDE!

Not surprising, your forecasts always turn out about the same.

2seaoat



Ooops...! LANDSLIDE!

Not surprising, your forecasts always turn out about the same.




That is funny. When 97% of the pollsters had a 51-53 a year ago, and the folks were bragging about 57 to 58 and got NO LANDSLIDE. They got the predicted structural results. 23 republican incumbents are at risk in swing states in 2016, and I can hear the use of the word landslide in that election.....hardly. How about some help with probabilities......go golfing with four people who all are using Nike Golf balls numbered 1-4. If I predict that four Nike balls will be on the green, and when that prediction happens, I call it a landslide by Nike.....too funny. You do know that this was not even close to a landslide as there were only 13 seats gained in the house.....half of the normal mid term gains.

Markle

Markle

This is without Alaska and Louisiana.  Both will go republican.  Then there's the house gaining more seats and governors gaining more too.

Senate will go 53 Republican to 47 Democrat in midterm SenateandHouse_zpsb0b23cf6

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2014/2014-midterm-elections

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Sal wrote:Meh.

I've maintained from the beginning that this should be a big election for Republicans.

Too much working against the Democrats in this one - most races being run on Republican's home turf, 6th year of a Democratic Presidency, gerrymandering, midterm turnout blahs, and so on and so forth.

But, the polling has been all over the place, so who the fuck knows.

The one thing that is certain is that should the Repukes win big, they'll overplay their hand, and 2016 will be a much friendlier atmosphere for the Dems.


Amen brother!

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

America speaks. Those who no longer trust Washington -- red or blue -- chose not to vote. That's almost 2/3 of those eligible to do so. As I see it, that's a very good sign that most of America is fed up with corporatism and big-money control of government.

As for those who did vote, the outcome suggests that many of those who voted were protesting against the policies of Obama and Washington DC that have destroyed their individual wealth, left them with wages that continue to fall, while their government demonstrates total dysfunction between the two wholly-owned political parties. In an ironic sense, many of the republicans who were swept to victory, are the same folks who cheer big business and corporate domination.

Crazy is as crazy does.

Reality.

Markle

Markle

Another one bites the dust. Next stop, Louisiana.

Alaska Senate Midterm Election Results Show Sullivan [Republican] Wins Over Begich [Democrat]

The Huffington Post/AP
Posted: 11/12/2014 3:33 am EST Updated: 11/12/2014 9:59 am EST

Republican Dan Sullivan was victorious over incumbent Democrat Mark Begich in the Alaska Senate race. The Associated Press announced the decision early Wednesday, more than a week after the midterms were held.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/12/alaska-senate-midterm-election-results_n_5729950.html

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