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Adrian Peterson Charged w/Child Abuse - Deactivated

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Vikingwoman wrote:Little did you know you could have achieved the same thing without physically harming your child.

I never harmed my child you evil woman. She was taught to be strong and I am only her biggest supporter.

Rrrrrrrr

Vikingwoman



Oh my bad! I thought spanking your child was the same as hitting your child. I don't know where I got that thought from? I'm going to have to change my thinking. I also thought hitting your child with a switch and causing welts was hitting them too. As long as they're superficial wounds, I see that's ok. I am learning so much here.

nadalfan



http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/americans-opinions-on-spanking-vary-by-party-race-region-and-religion/

probably no big surprises in these findings, but found it interesting

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

My belief, in order to discipline a child you have to get their attention first...a quick swat on the butt accomplishes that. 

I agree with Dude.  The last spanking I gave was to my first granddaughter  when she was two....... she ran into the street.

Floridatexan

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Vikingwoman wrote:Little did you know you could have achieved the same thing without physically harming your child.

cheers cheers cheers

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Sal wrote:For "beating" his son with a switch. 


I'd have to see a picture of the injuries to make a judgement on this one. 


During the summers of my childhood, we were sent outside to come home only at lunch time and sunset. 


If we were late for either, my mother came huntin' with a switch. 


I can still remember the sting of those welts on the backs of my legs. 


But, that was a different time. 

yes it was a different time.

and now with all the fluffy puffy dont swat your kids group we can see that we have way more teen crime and a whole lotta other crap.

I agree with joanie. the marks are not significant but he went a little over board. I do not think he should go to prision, loose his kids or his job over it.

The last damn thing we need to come from this is more fluffy puffy let the gov tell you how to raise your kids and let the kids bully the parents like most do now.

The laws are already stringent so dont give me any shit about it.

Vikingwoman



The marks are very significant. Whether he hit him one or ten times he broke the skin and bloodied the child. It is unacceptable and constitutes child abuse. I don't care how many of you had parents who abused you. You will be arrested today for such abuse.

Joanimaroni

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I was not abused.

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Vikingwoman wrote:The marks are very significant. Whether he hit him one or ten times he broke the skin and bloodied the child. It is unacceptable and constitutes child abuse. I don't care how many of you had parents who abused you. You will be arrested today for such abuse.

Stop trying to make it PERSONAL" against posters. Its you're Schick I know, cut it out.

switches have a way of leaving this shallow scary looking mark that really isn't a severe laceration.

Here's the deal. these days many daddies don't even hang around to help raise their off spring. Especially black men.

Now you have a public situation that has opened a debate about spanking your children.

This man might need parenting class or anger management or something of that nature. But he is trying to be a parent and discipline his child.

If you don't discipline your child, you are not a good parent. Does that mean I think this is acceptable discipline? no. I think its a bit much.

The don't spank your kids crowd has done the country a severe injustice. I have watched this agenda grow during my life time. It has failed our children and parents as a whole. Teen crime has exploded. children do not respect. They have no fear of repercussion for bad behavior.

I'm an advocate of spanking. I would hate to see this incident create more stringent laws than we have now. And I know the fluffy puffy don't spank your kids group want that. That's why we are still talking about this. Because the fluffy puffy nannies want to force some more social engineering on us.

Sal

Sal

Chrissy* wrote:Teen crime has exploded.

No, it hasn't.

Vikingwoman



Chrissy* wrote:
Vikingwoman wrote:The marks are very significant. Whether he hit him one or ten times he broke the skin and bloodied the child. It is unacceptable and constitutes child abuse. I don't care how many of you had parents who abused you. You will be arrested today for such abuse.

Stop trying to make it PERSONAL" against posters. Its you're Schick I know, cut it out.

switches have a way of leaving this shallow scary looking mark that really isn't a severe laceration.

Here's the deal. these days many daddies don't even hang around to help raise their off spring. Especially black men.

Now you have a public situation that has opened a debate about spanking your children.

This man might need parenting class or anger management or something of that nature. But he is trying to be a parent and discipline his child.

If you don't discipline your child, you are not a good parent. Does that mean I think this is acceptable discipline? no. I think its a bit much.

The don't spank your kids crowd has done the country a severe injustice. I have watched this agenda grow during my life time. It has failed our children and parents as a whole. Teen crime has exploded. children do not respect. They have no fear of repercussion for bad behavior.

I'm an advocate of spanking. I would hate to see this incident create more stringent laws than we have now. And I know the fluffy puffy don't spank your kids group want that. That's why we are still talking about this. Because the fluffy puffy nannies want to force some more social engineering on us.

I'm going to say this again and whoever wants to take it personally can. I really don't care and don't have any intention of cutting it out. If you hit your kid with objects and leave a mark your chances of being arrested are very high. Lack of beating your child has nothing to do with teen crime or bad behavior. That's just pure ignorance and a lack of education. You can spank your child within reason but when you cross the line into this stuff you're going down the road to jail. People did these things many years ago and are no longer allowed to get away with it. If you can't discipline your child w/o hitting them then you got a problem and need to go to parenting classes.

Joanimaroni

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Vikingwoman wrote:
Chrissy* wrote:
Vikingwoman wrote:The marks are very significant. Whether he hit him one or ten times he broke the skin and bloodied the child. It is unacceptable and constitutes child abuse. I don't care how many of you had parents who abused you. You will be arrested today for such abuse.

Stop trying to make it PERSONAL" against posters. Its you're Schick I know, cut it out.

switches have a way of leaving this shallow scary looking mark that really isn't a severe laceration.

Here's the deal. these days many daddies don't even hang around to help raise their off spring. Especially black men.

Now you have a public situation that has opened a debate about spanking your children.

This man might need parenting class or anger management or something of that nature. But he is trying to be a parent and discipline his child.

If you don't discipline your child, you are not a good parent. Does that mean I think this is acceptable discipline? no. I think its a bit much.

The don't spank your kids crowd has done the country a severe injustice. I have watched this agenda grow during my life time. It has failed our children and parents as a whole. Teen crime has exploded. children do not respect. They have no fear of repercussion for bad behavior.

I'm an advocate of spanking. I would hate to see this incident create more stringent laws than we have now. And I know the fluffy puffy don't spank your kids group want that. That's why we are still talking about this. Because the fluffy puffy nannies want to force some more social engineering on us.

I'm going to say this again and whoever wants to take it personally can. I really don't care and don't have any intention of cutting it out. If you hit your kid with objects and leave a mark your chances of being arrested are very high. Lack of beating your child has nothing to do with teen crime or bad behavior. That's just pure ignorance and a lack of education. You can spank your child within reason but when you cross the line into this stuff you're going down the road to jail. People did these things many years ago and are no longer allowed to get away with it. If you can't discipline your child w/o hitting them then you got a problem and need to go to parenting classes.



Bull shit.....spanking a child does not indicate bad parenting or requires parenting classes.

And you made it personal when you stated some posters were abused. Spanking a child  
IS NOT CHILD ABUSE.

Vikingwoman



I think I clarified that spanking your child within reason was acceptable. I said hitting your child such w/ switches was not.

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

I disagree.

Vikingwoman



Tell it to the Judge.

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Vikingwoman wrote:Tell it to the Judge.

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You're wrong.

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boards of FL

boards of FL

Chrissy* wrote:yes it was a different time.

and now with all the fluffy puffy dont swat your kids group we can see that we have way more teen crime and a whole lotta other crap.



Do you always just make shit up?


http://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/youthviolence/stats_at-a_glance/vca_temp-trends.html

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http://www.ojjdp.gov/ojstatbb/crime/JAR_Display.asp?ID=qa05200

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boards of FL wrote:
Chrissy* wrote:yes it was a different time.

and now with all the fluffy puffy dont swat your kids group we can see that we have way more teen crime and a whole lotta other crap.



Do you always just make shit up?


http://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/youthviolence/stats_at-a_glance/vca_temp-trends.html

Adrian Peterson Charged w/Child Abuse - Deactivated - Page 2 Vca_sex_10-24-1995-2011_600w318h



http://www.ojjdp.gov/ojstatbb/crime/JAR_Display.asp?ID=qa05200

Adrian Peterson Charged w/Child Abuse - Deactivated - Page 2 Qa05200

Adrian Peterson Charged w/Child Abuse - Deactivated - Page 2 Images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSnCPI90VN5ELtgC7mnqaGMQ--AhcsxuBKqgZX_uUzjOmrmHLeiqA

1. Confusing correlation with causation fallacy.

The chart is being used inappropriately to indicate that there is a correlation with causation. Namely that juvenile crime is down.


The chart could just as easily indicate that...

The juveniles could just be getting smarter about not being caught or the law enforcement officers just don't care.

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boards of FL

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Damaged Eagle wrote:
boards of FL wrote:
Chrissy* wrote:yes it was a different time.

and now with all the fluffy puffy dont swat your kids group we can see that we have way more teen crime and a whole lotta other crap.



Do you always just make shit up?


http://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/youthviolence/stats_at-a_glance/vca_temp-trends.html

Adrian Peterson Charged w/Child Abuse - Deactivated - Page 2 Vca_sex_10-24-1995-2011_600w318h



http://www.ojjdp.gov/ojstatbb/crime/JAR_Display.asp?ID=qa05200

Adrian Peterson Charged w/Child Abuse - Deactivated - Page 2 Qa05200

Adrian Peterson Charged w/Child Abuse - Deactivated - Page 2 Images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSnCPI90VN5ELtgC7mnqaGMQ--AhcsxuBKqgZX_uUzjOmrmHLeiqA

1. Confusing correlation with causation fallacy.

The chart is being used inappropriately to indicate that there is a correlation with causation. Namely that juvenile crime is down.


The chart could just as easily indicate that...

The juveniles could just be getting smarter about not being caught or the law enforcement officers just don't care.

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMnNAGLAc_w

Smile


You are beyond dense. Chrissy said that 1) we have "way more teen crime" today and 2) this phenomenon is caused by the fact that parents are spanking less.

Chrissy is the one who implied a causal relationship between spanking and teen crime. All I did is provide the underlying facts that show us that her entire premise is wrong - because teen crime is currently near historical lows.

Now, if you wish to make the case that teen crime really isn't at historical lows and that it may very well be much higher due to the suggestion that today's teens are smarter and are getting caught less, well, that is certainly your choice. Just realize that you're speculating out of your ass.


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boards of FL wrote:
Damaged Eagle wrote:
boards of FL wrote:
Chrissy* wrote:yes it was a different time.

and now with all the fluffy puffy dont swat your kids group we can see that we have way more teen crime and a whole lotta other crap.



Do you always just make shit up?


http://www.ojjdp.gov/ojstatbb/crime/JAR_Display.asp?ID=qa05200

Adrian Peterson Charged w/Child Abuse - Deactivated - Page 2 Qa05200



1. Confusing correlation with causation fallacy.

The chart is being used inappropriately to indicate that there is a correlation with causation. Namely that juvenile crime is down.


The chart could just as easily indicate that...

The juveniles could just be getting smarter about not being caught or the law enforcement officers just don't care.

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMnNAGLAc_w

Smile


You are beyond dense.  Chrissy said that 1) we have "way more teen crime" today and 2) this phenomenon is caused by the fact that parents are spanking less.

Chrissy is the one who implied a causal relationship between spanking and teen crime.  All I did is provide the underlying facts that show us that her entire premise is wrong - because teen crime is currently near historical lows.

Now, if you wish to make the case that teen crime really isn't at historical lows and that it may very well be much higher due to the suggestion that today's teens are smarter and are getting caught less, well, that is certainly your choice.  Just realize that you're speculating out of your ass.

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I'm simply pointing out your statistical fallacy.

You're the one full of...

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boards of FL

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Damaged Eagle wrote:
boards of FL wrote:
Damaged Eagle wrote:
boards of FL wrote:
Chrissy* wrote:yes it was a different time.

and now with all the fluffy puffy dont swat your kids group we can see that we have way more teen crime and a whole lotta other crap.



Do you always just make shit up?


http://www.ojjdp.gov/ojstatbb/crime/JAR_Display.asp?ID=qa05200

Adrian Peterson Charged w/Child Abuse - Deactivated - Page 2 Qa05200



1. Confusing correlation with causation fallacy.

The chart is being used inappropriately to indicate that there is a correlation with causation. Namely that juvenile crime is down.


The chart could just as easily indicate that...

The juveniles could just be getting smarter about not being caught or the law enforcement officers just don't care.

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMnNAGLAc_w

Smile


You are beyond dense.  Chrissy said that 1) we have "way more teen crime" today and 2) this phenomenon is caused by the fact that parents are spanking less.

Chrissy is the one who implied a causal relationship between spanking and teen crime.  All I did is provide the underlying facts that show us that her entire premise is wrong - because teen crime is currently near historical lows.

Now, if you wish to make the case that teen crime really isn't at historical lows and that it may very well be much higher due to the suggestion that today's teens are smarter and are getting caught less, well, that is certainly your choice.  Just realize that you're speculating out of your ass.

Adrian Peterson Charged w/Child Abuse - Deactivated - Page 2 Images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS9C1WSR2ZhLj9_y0P8zGf5XkavlzJ3JCU2NY_JohYkNNoTaUrk

I'm simply pointing out your statistical fallacy.

You're the one full of...

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rpq6u8hYgk

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My statistical fallacy?

You pointed out the fallacy of causation vs correlation.  I never suggested any causation or correlation.  That was Chrissy.  

Learn to read.


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[quote="boards of FL"]
Damaged Eagle wrote:
boards of FL wrote:
Damaged Eagle wrote:
boards of FL wrote:
Chrissy* wrote:yes it was a different time.

and now with all the fluffy puffy dont swat your kids group we can see that we have way more teen crime and a whole lotta other crap.



Do you always just make shit up?


http://www.ojjdp.gov/ojstatbb/crime/JAR_Display.asp?ID=qa05200





1. Confusing correlation with causation fallacy.

The chart is being used inappropriately to indicate that there is a correlation with causation. Namely that juvenile crime is down.


The chart could just as easily indicate that...

The juveniles could just be getting smarter about not being caught or the law enforcement officers just don't care.

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMnNAGLAc_w

Smile


You are beyond dense.  Chrissy said that 1) we have "way more teen crime" today and 2) this phenomenon is caused by the fact that parents are spanking less.

Chrissy is the one who implied a causal relationship between spanking and teen crime.  All I did is provide the underlying facts that show us that her entire premise is wrong - because teen crime is currently near historical lows.

Now, if you wish to make the case that teen crime really isn't at historical lows and that it may very well be much higher due to the suggestion that today's teens are smarter and are getting caught less, well, that is certainly your choice.  Just realize that you're speculating out of your ass.


I'm simply pointing out your statistical fallacy.

You're the one full of...

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rpq6u8hYgk

Laughing



My statistical fallacy?

You pointed out the fallacy of causation vs correlation.  I never suggested any causation or correlation.  That was Chrissy.  

Learn to read.

Adrian Peterson Charged w/Child Abuse - Deactivated - Page 2 Images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSPeV-NJfGO5OyjjX8pzjfv_ccA3mHslzsauPc6bHobSrBvB940

You're the one who brought in the charts attempting to prove something statistically.

So yes it's your statistical fallacy.

*****CHUCKLE*****

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boards of FL

boards of FL

Damaged Eagle wrote:
boards of FL wrote:
Damaged Eagle wrote:
boards of FL wrote:
Damaged Eagle wrote:
boards of FL wrote:
Chrissy* wrote:yes it was a different time.

and now with all the fluffy puffy dont swat your kids group we can see that we have way more teen crime and a whole lotta other crap.



Do you always just make shit up?


http://www.ojjdp.gov/ojstatbb/crime/JAR_Display.asp?ID=qa05200





1. Confusing correlation with causation fallacy.

The chart is being used inappropriately to indicate that there is a correlation with causation. Namely that juvenile crime is down.


The chart could just as easily indicate that...

The juveniles could just be getting smarter about not being caught or the law enforcement officers just don't care.

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMnNAGLAc_w

Smile


You are beyond dense.  Chrissy said that 1) we have "way more teen crime" today and 2) this phenomenon is caused by the fact that parents are spanking less.

Chrissy is the one who implied a causal relationship between spanking and teen crime.  All I did is provide the underlying facts that show us that her entire premise is wrong - because teen crime is currently near historical lows.

Now, if you wish to make the case that teen crime really isn't at historical lows and that it may very well be much higher due to the suggestion that today's teens are smarter and are getting caught less, well, that is certainly your choice.  Just realize that you're speculating out of your ass.


I'm simply pointing out your statistical fallacy.

You're the one full of...

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rpq6u8hYgk

Laughing



My statistical fallacy?

You pointed out the fallacy of causation vs correlation.  I never suggested any causation or correlation.  That was Chrissy.  

Learn to read.

Adrian Peterson Charged w/Child Abuse - Deactivated - Page 2 Images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSPeV-NJfGO5OyjjX8pzjfv_ccA3mHslzsauPc6bHobSrBvB940

You're the one who brought in the charts attempting to prove something statistically.

So yes it's your statistical fallacy.

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diOuUYcenW0

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I'm not sure this can be dumbed down any more but I'll try.

1. Chrissy said that we currently have "way more teen crime".

2. I posted data from two sources that showed us that teen crime is actually near historical lows


OK. What statistical fallacy have I committed there?


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boards of FL wrote:
Damaged Eagle wrote:
boards of FL wrote:
Damaged Eagle wrote:
boards of FL wrote:
Damaged Eagle wrote:
boards of FL wrote:
Chrissy* wrote:yes it was a different time.

and now with all the fluffy puffy dont swat your kids group we can see that we have way more teen crime and a whole lotta other crap.



Do you always just make shit up?


http://www.ojjdp.gov/ojstatbb/crime/JAR_Display.asp?ID=qa05200





1. Confusing correlation with causation fallacy.

The chart is being used inappropriately to indicate that there is a correlation with causation. Namely that juvenile crime is down.


The chart could just as easily indicate that...

The juveniles could just be getting smarter about not being caught or the law enforcement officers just don't care.

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMnNAGLAc_w

Smile


You are beyond dense.  Chrissy said that 1) we have "way more teen crime" today and 2) this phenomenon is caused by the fact that parents are spanking less.

Chrissy is the one who implied a causal relationship between spanking and teen crime.  All I did is provide the underlying facts that show us that her entire premise is wrong - because teen crime is currently near historical lows.

Now, if you wish to make the case that teen crime really isn't at historical lows and that it may very well be much higher due to the suggestion that today's teens are smarter and are getting caught less, well, that is certainly your choice.  Just realize that you're speculating out of your ass.


I'm simply pointing out your statistical fallacy.

You're the one full of...

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rpq6u8hYgk

Laughing



My statistical fallacy?

You pointed out the fallacy of causation vs correlation.  I never suggested any causation or correlation.  That was Chrissy.  

Learn to read.

You're the one who brought in the charts attempting to prove something statistically.

So yes it's your statistical fallacy.

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diOuUYcenW0

Smile



I'm not sure this can be dumbed down any more but I'll try.  

1.  Chrissy said that we currently have "way more teen crime".

2.  I posted data from two sources that showed us that teen crime is actually near historical lows


OK.  What statistical fallacy have I committed there?  

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I can't dumb it down any further for you but maybe this will help...

http://www.universalclass.com/i/course/reading-comprehension-101.htm

Good luck with that but I don't think it'll do you much good.

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In fact, it's the other way around. Hitting your kids tells them it's ok to use violence and handle situations aggressively. After all, that's what they're taught.

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