Dick Cheney and crew increased the farm subsidies 72% over 10 years

The guy who is worried about not feeding the Military Industrial complex, and thinks that feeding people is bad, orchastrated the largest increase for large corporate farm subsidies which are more than the ENTIRE food stamp budget, and this guy keeps talking.........he truly represents evil, and I was a staunch supporter of him when he was in the house, but when you sell your soul to the Oligarchy and special interests and abandon the American people.....you get Dick Cheney.

http://object.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/serials/files/cato-handbook-policymakers/2009/9/hb111-18.pdf

Is that pinhead in office? No. The latest farm bill was passed in a bipartisan manner (68 to 32) and signed by Obama. I don't agree with paying farm corporations anything but as long as there are politicians there will be special favors.

The food stamp criticism is overblown.

“This is not your father’s farm bill,” said Senator Debbie Stabenow, the Michigan Democrat and chairwoman of the Senate Agriculture Committee, who is the bill’s author.

Specifically, Ms. Stabenow pointed out that the bill eliminates a much-criticized $5 billion-a-year crop subsidy to farmers who received the payments whether they grew crops or not. “Instead of getting a government check even in good times, farmers will pay an insurance bill every year and will only receive support from that insurance in years when they take a loss,” Ms. Stabenow said.

In addition, she said, the food stamp cuts affect 4 percent of recipients and do not remove anyone from the program. It closes a loophole that states use to increase benefits for food stamp recipients."

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/05/us/politics/senate-passes-long-stalled-farm-bill.html?_r=0

Cough

There have been attempts to cut the farm subsidy........it is very difficult. There were real concrete reforms in 1996, but Mr. Cheney and crew increased the farm subsidies by 72% in 2002, and we are still trying to dig out from under the debt piled on by subsidy and wars conducted off budget. But the truth is that it is a great deal easier to deny further subsidy than to try to take back the gift which keeps on giving. When Cheney gets behind the podium and says that we are taking funding away from the Military Industrial complex and transferring it into food stamps........well food stamps are a drop in the bucket the amount that Mr. Cheney gave to corporate farms by increasing the subsidies to the same.....disgraceful.

2seaoat wrote:There have been attempts to cut the farm subsidy........it is very difficult.  There were real concrete reforms in 1996, but Mr. Cheney and crew increased the farm subsidies by 72% in 2002, and we are still trying to dig out from under the debt piled on by subsidy and wars conducted off budget.   But the truth is that it is a great deal easier to deny further subsidy than to try to take back the gift which keeps on giving.   When Cheney gets behind the podium and says that we are taking funding away from the Military Industrial complex and transferring it into food stamps........well food stamps are a drop in the bucket the amount that Mr. Cheney gave to corporate farms by increasing the subsidies to the same.....disgraceful.

How did V. P. Cheney increase farm subsidies?  When did the Vice President begin writing the budget?

You're not even aware that just because something is off the budget, does NOT mean it is not included in our Debt.  I know, our DEBT is not an area into which you want to want to venture.

By the way, I would be thrilled to drop all the farm subsidies so long as we drop those for solar, wind, alcohol and scores of others.

Please venture into debt.

http://www.ontheissues.org/2004/Dick_Cheney_Budget_+_Economy.htm

I wonder how much subsidy that Monsanto gets to add to its multi billion dollar empire?

2seaoat wrote:Please venture into debt.  

http://www.ontheissues.org/2004/Dick_Cheney_Budget_+_Economy.htm

How much was the debt when that statement was made?  $6.2 TRILLION in 2002, over a 230+ year period.

Today, in only 10 years, $17.5 TRILLION AND INCREASING DAILY!

Keep up the good work!

When you cut taxes and fight two wars off budget, you create the debt. Not rocket science. Return tax rates to mid 1980 levels, and stop fighting wars. Debt will disappear in a generation. It took us a generation to create it and it will take a generation to reduce it.

2seaoat wrote:When you cut taxes and fight two wars off budget, you create the debt.  Not rocket science.  Return tax rates to mid 1980 levels, and stop fighting wars.  Debt will disappear in a generation.  It took us a generation to create it and it will take a generation to reduce it.

Also, you neglected to tell us where it is in the U. S. Constitution that gives the Vice President he power to write the annual budget.

Bush signed the bill reluctantly. Cheney supported farm subsidies from the time he was in congress through his role as vice president when after the farm bill was signed and the tax cuts implemented in 2002 he made his famous comment to an objecting Paul O'neil who Cheney had fired from treasury because everybody knew giving subsidies to big corporations and cutting their taxes and the taxes to the wealthiest Americans would bury this country in debt.......let see.....what did Mr. Cheney say......Deficits don't matter?

http://crooksandliars.com/mugsy/ten-years-ago-today-bush-fires-economic-team

Markle wrote:

2seaoat wrote:Please venture into debt.  

http://www.ontheissues.org/2004/Dick_Cheney_Budget_+_Economy.htm

How much was the debt when that statement was made?  $6.2 TRILLION in 2002, over a 230+ year period.

Today, in only 10 years, $17.5 TRILLION AND INCREASING DAILY!

Keep up the good work!

$10 trillion and a collapsed economy in 2008. Get your facts straight, shill. The biggest drivers of the national debt have been Republicans. So much for fiscal responsibility. So much for you and your pathetic attempts to change the narrative. You are truly disgusting.

Floridatexan wrote:

Markle wrote:

2seaoat wrote:Please venture into debt.  

http://www.ontheissues.org/2004/Dick_Cheney_Budget_+_Economy.htm

How much was the debt when that statement was made?  $6.2 TRILLION in 2002, over a 230+ year period.

Today, in only 10 years, $17.5 TRILLION AND INCREASING DAILY!

Keep up the good work!

$10 trillion and a collapsed economy in 2008.  Get your facts straight, shill.  The biggest drivers of the national debt have been Republicans.  So much for fiscal responsibility.  So much for you and your pathetic attempts to change the narrative.  You are truly disgusting.

It was not 2008 when V.P. Dick Cheney made that statement. As you might recall, the year was 2002 and the debt was STILL $6.2 TRILLION AND a monstrous Act of War had just been committed on our country. We were also coming out of the Clinton recession.

What was President George Bush's budget for 2009?

You just cannot accept what happened in the past can you?  Why is that?

It was not 2008 when V.P. Dick Cheney made that statement.

I clearly told you he made the statement in 2002, and Tex was just correcting your absurd numbers......the debt was doubled under Cheney and half of Obama's debt was the stimulus and deep recession which Cheney had crafted. Also, President Clinton had handed over surplus budgets which were paying down the national debt when Mr. Cheney decided to not care about debt and plunge this nation into debt as the Oligarchy got paid in full while our jobs were shipped overseas. Cheney is not in the past when he goes on Sunday talk shows and tries to create revisionist history, and you actually defend the same. He is clearly an evil bought and paid man working against the interests of the American middle class.