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Economics faces long needed upheaval as students demand right to dissent

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http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/jun/18/economics-upheaval-students-disssent-capitalist-thomas-piketty


In last month's European parliament elections eurosceptic and extremist parties won 25% of the popular vote, with the biggest gains chalked up in France, the UK and Greece. These results were widely, and correctly, interpreted as showing the degree of disconnect between an arrogant European elite and ordinary citizens.

Less noticed, because less obviously political, are current intellectual rumblings, of which French economist Thomas Piketty's Capital in the Twenty-First Century, a withering indictment of growing inequality, is the latest manifestation. We may be witnessing the beginning of the end of the neo-liberal capitalist consensus that has prevailed throughout the west since the 1980s – and that many claim led to the economic disaster of 2008-2009.

Particularly important is the growing discontent of economics students with the university curriculum. Undergraduates' discontent matters, because economics has long been the west's political lodestar. This discontent was born in the "post-autistic economics movement", which started in Paris in 2000, and spread to the US, Australia, and New Zealand. Its adherents' main complaint was that the mainstream economics taught to students had become a branch of mathematics, disconnected from reality.

The revolt made little progress in the years of the "great moderation" of the 2000s but was revived following the 2008 crisis. Two important links with the earlier network are US economist James Galbraith, the son of John Kenneth Galbraith, and British economist Ha-Joon Chang, author of the bestselling 23 Things They Don't Tell You about Capitalism.

In a manifesto published in April economics students at the University of Manchester advocated an approach "that begins with economic phenomena and then gives students a toolkit to evaluate how well different perspectives can explain it", rather than with mathematical models based on unreal assumptions. Significantly, Andrew Haldane, executive director for financial stability at the Bank of England, wrote the introduction.

The Manchester students argue that: "The mainstream within the discipline (neoclassical theory) has excluded all dissenting opinion, and the crisis is arguably the ultimate price of this exclusion. Alternative approaches such as post-Keynesian, Marxist, and Austrian economics (as well as many others) have been marginalised. The same can be said of the history of the discipline."

As a result, students have little awareness of neoclassical theory's limits, much less alternatives to it. The aim, according to the students, should be to "bridge disciplines within and outside of economics". Economics should not be divorced from psychology, politics, history, philosophy, and so on. Students are especially keen to study issues like inequality, the role of ethics and fairness in economics (as opposed to the prevailing focus on profit maximisation), and the economic consequences of climate change.

The idea is that such intellectual cross-fertilisation would help students understand recent economic phenomena better and improve economic theory. From this point of view, everyone stands to benefit from curriculum reform.

The deeper message is that mainstream economics is in fact an ideology – the ideology of the free market. Its tools and assumptions define its topics. If we assume perfect rationality and complete markets, we are debarred from exploring the causes of large-scale economic failures. Unfortunately, such assumptions have a profound influence on policy.

The efficient-market hypothesis – the belief that financial markets price risks correctly on average – provided the intellectual argument for extensive deregulation of banking in the 1980s and 1990s. Similarly, the austerity policies that Europe used to fight the recession from 2010 on were based on the belief that there was no recession to fight. These ideas were tailored to the views of the financial oligarchy. But the tools of economics, as currently taught, provide little scope for investigating the links between economists' ideas and the structures of power.


Today's "post-crash" students are right. So what is keeping the mainstream's intellectual apparatus going? For starters, economics teaching and research is deeply embedded in an institutional structure that, as with any ideological movement, rewards orthodoxy and penalises heresy. The great classics of economics, from Smith to Ricardo to Veblen, go untaught. Research funding is allocated on the basis of publication in academic journals that espouse the neoclassical perspective. Publication in such journals is also the basis of promotion.

Moreover, it has become an article of faith that any move toward a more open or "pluralist" approach to economics portends regression to "pre-scientific" modes of thought, just as the results of the European Parliament election threaten to revive a more primitive mode of politics.

Yet institutions and ideologies cannot survive by mere incantation or reminders of past horrors. They have to address and account for the contemporary world of lived experience. For now, the best that curriculum reform can do is to remind students that economics is not a science like physics, and that it has a much richer history than is to be found in the standard textbooks. In his book Economics of Good and Evil the Czech economist Tomáš Sedláček shows that what we call economics is only a formalised fragment of a much wider range of thinking about economic life, stretching from the Sumerian epic of Gilgamesh to the meta-mathematics of today.

Indeed, mainstream economics is a pitifully thin distillation of historical wisdom on the topics that it addresses. It should be applied to whatever practical problems it can solve; but its tools and assumptions should always be in creative tension with other beliefs concerning human wellbeing and flourishing. What students are taught today certainly does not deserve its imperial status in social thought.


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http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/debunked-the-harvard-study-republicans

Debunked: The Harvard study that Republicans used to push austerity

A 28-year-old economics graduate student has rewritten a study led by Harvard economists Carmen Reinhart and Kenneth Rogoff that has been widely cited as the intellectual basis for worldwide government austerity measures. The Harvard study argues that higher public debt slows down economic growth when the GDP rises above a 90% threshold. But after an attempt to duplicate the Harvard study’s findings, Thomas Herndon, a Ph.D student at the University of Massachusetts-Amherst, ended up debunking Reinhart and Rogoff’s economic theory and found that the Reinhart-Rogoff study was incorrect due to spreadsheet coding errors and selective data. Herndon did not attribute motive; he focused only on the statistical and computational inaccuracies of the influential paper.


Released April 17 by University of Massachusetts researchers, Thomas Herndon and his two economics professors, Michael Ash and Robert Pollin, published a paper pointing out several inaccuracies in Reinhart and Rogoff’s paper. The “RR” study has been repeatedly used as an argument for pushing austerity and for the view that government deficits are economically threatening.

Herndon’s study finds that their “results are not consistent with and do not confirm their findings” after uncovering flaws in their data analysis and computing method. Herndon clarified the Harvard study’s “selective omissions and unconventional weighting” on Monday.

“We did use the terms ‘selective’ and ‘unconventional’ to describe the problems we saw with their paper, and we believe these are accurate characterizations. ‘Selective’ is an appropriate description because the data were ‘selected’ for exclusion,” Herndon writes.

In terms of Reinhart and Rogoff’s “unconventional” weighting system, Herndon points to a Excel spreadsheet error that compounds the growth-rate error. Herndon says, “It was the combination of the weighting system with the exclusion–for whatever reason–that combined to cause the most significant fall in average GDP growth. There is nothing inherently wrong with their weighting system. However it is unusual and it is their obligation to be open and clear in explaining why they used this unusual methodology.”

Additionally, Herndon also uncovered a transcription error with Spain’s average GDP growth. In one of Reinhart and Rogoff’s tables, Spain’s average GDP growth was entered at 2.8% instead of 2.2%. Two other samples showed five countries–Australia, Austria, Belgium, Denmark, and Canada–were removed, adding to the amount of computational errors in the Harvard report.

Herndon concluded, “Contrary to RR, average GDP growth at public debt/GDP ratios over 90 percent is not dramatically different than when debt/GDP ratios are lower.”

An addendum to Herndon’s paper also defines a stronger causal relationship between economic and public debt. A contribution by his professor Arin Dube provides evidence that the causality runs the other way around – from slow growth to high debt.

Reinhart and Rogoff responded to Herndon’s claim, acknowledging several mistakes, but both economists contended that their study’s general argument that high debt leads to slower economic growth could still be corroborated.

“It is sobering that such an error slipped into one of our papers despite our best efforts to be consistently careful. We will redouble our efforts to avoid such errors in the future.  We do not, however, believe this regrettable slip affects in any significant way the central message of the paper or that in our subsequent work,” Reinhart and Rogoff wrote.

msnbc’s Lawrence O’Donnell said in his program Wednesday evening, “No matter how many times academics try to tell politicians that they cannot base policy action on any one study in any area of social sciences or natural sciences politicians refuse to learn that lesson. Republicans loved the 90% number. Because for once they had some science behind what they were saying.”

Herndon, along with the economics department at UMass-Amherst, have undercut the austerity argument that there is no definitive threshold for the debt/GDP ratio relationship and that public debt holds a pivotal role in overcoming a financial recession–a topic that has been on the mind of every American.



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Economics should not be divorced from psychology, politics, history, philosophy, and so on. Students are especially keen to study issues like inequality, the role of ethics and fairness in economics (as opposed to the prevailing focus on profit maximisation), and the economic consequences of climate change.


Hm take math out of economics and insert all that stuff and you can just call it social studies lol

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http://www.alternet.org/story/150892/koch_brother_buys_professors_at_public_university_to_spread_free_market_propaganda_--_is_public_education_the_kochs'_next_front

Koch Brother Buys Professors At Public University to Spread Free Market Propaganda -- Is Public Education the Kochs' Next Front?

The latest Koch brother affront is an "unheard of" breach of academic freedom--a donation to FSU only on the condition they can oversee the faculty appointees.

May 10, 2011 |


"Usually, when billionaires or millionaires give a large sum of money to a university, even a private one, they can specify where that gift will go -- which department or function, facilities, new hires, dorms, or what have you. And it's no secret that some of those big donations may lead to a little bit of wink-and-nudge affirmative action when it comes time for the little billionaires Jr. to apply to college.

But what these monied donors cannot do, what remains taboo in the academic world, is leverage that kind of gift to influence who gets hired and fired by the faculty and what they teach--until now, thanks to Charles G. Koch.

A recent op-ed in a Florida newspaper brought to light a shady deal by billionaire Koch, one of the Koch brothers, who donated a hefty million-dollar plus pledge to Florida State University, with some very big and ethically compromised strings attached.

According to the St. Petersburg Times' Kris Hundley's thorough report:

A foundation bankrolled by Libertarian businessman Charles G. Koch has pledged $1.5 million for positions in Florida State University's economics department. In return, his representatives get to screen and sign off on any hires for a new program promoting "political economy and free enterprise."

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Good... where else will students learn of free market... except it being demonized and blamed for keynesian failures.

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http://www.nationofchange.org/myth-free-market-1340630005

The Myth of the Free Market

“The Big Lie that is destroying the American economy, the middle class, and the good character of a once-great country.”

"As numbing news of multibillion dollar boondoggles, scandals and swindles becomes a daily occurrence, now is the time to take a close look at the right-wing propaganda machine’s favorite canards about capitalism and the free market. In the wake of the worst banking crisis since the Great Depression and in the throes of a prolonged recession brought on by rogue financial institutions operating outside a regulatory system supposedly designed to prevent the very kind of reckless behavior and profiteering that led to the current doldrums, here is a short list of myths perpetrated by the corporate greed-is-good culture – myths that taken together add up to The Big Lie that is destroying the American economy, the middle class, and the good character of a once-great country.

Let’s begin with an axiom the US Chamber of Commerce, Koch Industries, Inc., Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan Chase and Company, and Bain Capital, to name but a few, would all wholeheartedly endorse: state interference (“regulation”) is inimical to economic growth, job creation, and prosperity. And this corollary: a free Market is the best and only way to achieve the greatest good for the greatest number...

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Conclusion: A vibrant market economy will not be long-lived or “sustainable” in the absence of smart regulation designed to accomplish two primary aims – wealth creation and social justice. In the pursuit of wealth and justice, it is the role of the state to balance these two aims.

Regulation is not the enemy of incentive, invention, or innovation. Nor is it incompatible with progress, profits, or personal gain. In a properly ordered republic, business makes the money and the government makes the rules. If the federal government persists in allowing oil companies, investment banks, and front groups for billionaires to make the rules free of public scrutiny and transparency, the very competition so vital to a market economy will be ever more constricted and joblessness will become chronic rather than "cyclical", as companies cut jobs here at home, replace workers with robots, and go abroad in search of cheap labor, lax labor laws, and tariff-free access to fast-growing markets in Asia and elsewhere.

Meanwhile, a dysfunctional Washington dithers, the rich get richer, the middle class gets poorer, the poor lose hope, elections are a sham, and the American Dream dies a slow but certain death."

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PkrBum wrote:Good... where else will students learn of free market... except it being demonized and blamed for keynesian failures.

Did you catch the part where they don't want economist to focus on math?

talk about a non results oriented game plan. Its like the results don't matter.

as complicated as they wish to make this simple process supply and demand escapes them. Instead they choose to focus on how to force demand for the supply which is strategically monitored by intervention.

I really do not think they are aware how they are being used.

baaa

boards of FL

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PkrBum wrote:Good... where else will students learn of free market... except it being demonized and blamed for keynesian failures.


Good? Did you read the correct article?


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boards of FL wrote:
PkrBum wrote:Good... where else will students learn of free market... except it being demonized and blamed for keynesian failures.


Good? Did you read the correct article?

Do you have a point? Or is it just the ideological wad in your panties that makes you uncomfortable w another pov?

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PkrBum wrote:
boards of FL wrote:
PkrBum wrote:Good... where else will students learn of free market... except it being demonized and blamed for keynesian failures.


Good?  Did you read the correct article?

Do you have a point? Or is it just the ideological wad in your panties that makes you uncomfortable w another pov?

Are you able to defend your "free market" position? Or are you just here to posture and insult people?

Floridatexan

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Ti wrote:
PkrBum wrote:Good... where else will students learn of free market... except it being demonized and blamed for keynesian failures.

Did you catch the part where they don't want economist to focus on math?

talk about a non results oriented game plan. Its like the results don't matter.

as complicated as they wish to make this simple process supply and demand escapes them. Instead they choose to focus on how to force demand for the supply which is strategically monitored by intervention.

I really do not think they are aware how they are being used.

baaa

And your training in economics is...?

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Floridatexan wrote:
Ti wrote:
PkrBum wrote:Good... where else will students learn of free market... except it being demonized and blamed for keynesian failures.

Did you catch the part where they don't want economist to focus on math?

talk about a non results oriented game plan. Its like the results don't matter.

as complicated as they wish to make this simple process supply and demand escapes them. Instead they choose to focus on how to force demand for the supply which is strategically monitored by intervention.

I really do not think they are aware how they are being used.

baaa

And your training in economics is...?

life

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

Ti wrote:
Floridatexan wrote:
Ti wrote:
PkrBum wrote:Good... where else will students learn of free market... except it being demonized and blamed for keynesian failures.

Did you catch the part where they don't want economist to focus on math?

talk about a non results oriented game plan. Its like the results don't matter.

as complicated as they wish to make this simple process supply and demand escapes them. Instead they choose to focus on how to force demand for the supply which is strategically monitored by intervention.

I really do not think they are aware how they are being used.

baaa

And your training in economics is...?

life

In other words, you know nothing about the application of mathematical concepts as they relate to the science behind economic theory...but you're able to dismiss Boards' post...because...supply and demand...and whatever that sentence above even means...got it.

Economics faces long needed upheaval as students demand right to dissent 863976

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Floridatexan wrote:
Ti wrote:
Floridatexan wrote:
Ti wrote:
PkrBum wrote:Good... where else will students learn of free market... except it being demonized and blamed for keynesian failures.

Did you catch the part where they don't want economist to focus on math?

talk about a non results oriented game plan. Its like the results don't matter.

as complicated as they wish to make this simple process supply and demand escapes them. Instead they choose to focus on how to force demand for the supply which is strategically monitored by intervention.

I really do not think they are aware how they are being used.

baaa

And your training in economics is...?

life

In other words, you know nothing about the application of mathematical concepts as they relate to the science behind economic theory...but you're able to dismiss Boards' post...because...supply and demand...and whatever that sentence above even means...got it.  

by your logic we all would only be able to reply to threads we each have professional training in. That would be a little boring huh. except for you and dreams and seaoat who seem to have professional training in everything LOL

BTW. Why don't you just address my comment instead of attacking me? My training is not important and my comment stands on its own merit. I read the subject material and rendered my opinion. Its SOCIAL Engineering without a focus on results.

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