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Uh Oh Mr. Markle...the guy you say won the war......he says the president is right

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2seaoat



How will Pace and Mr. Markle sleep tonight?

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/iraq-turmoil/petraeus-breaks-hawks-iraq-echoes-obamas-warnings-n135601

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

From that article:

The retired general warned Wednesday that the political conditions now in Iraq mean that military intervention would falter because both sides would perceive the United States as favoring one religious faction against another rather than as squashing terrorism alone.

Hmmmm......

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2seaoat



Like some kind of primitive culture who watches the wind blow and how the leaves react, some on this forum claim to be the medicine man with special interpretative powers to declare that wars are won and gains are made......but in the end there is little rational thought, and in the case of some posters, intentional purveyance of pure propaganda which is intended to distort and provide proof that the wind is blowing, the leaves are moving, and the medicine man is right.

Now the attacks will begin on the General, who was being cited by our resident medicine men as the all knowing who simply had everything GAINED lost by the President.....you could not rent this movie and have more fun.

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

...and in the case of some posters, intentional purveyance of pure propaganda which is intended to distort and provide proof that the wind is blowing, the leaves are moving, and the medicine man is right...

You are being FAR TOO NICE to said poster, SeaOat. Sometimes you just have to tell them they are full of it......

The key phrase here is: "....intentional purveyance of pure propaganda which is intended to distort...."

We will have to see what Shill-Central instructs this poster to put up in response. I am sure cut-and-pastes are being created as I type this.
 Razz



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2seaoat



I am sure Shill central has sent out plenty of Elmer's glue and sharp scissors, as suddenly all that can be said about the general which is bad will be cut and pasted as they attempt to minimize the truth......and so the wind blows.

dumpcare



Even Megyn Kelly takes on Cheney and then he says well what we inherited and on, this guy is in denial.

http://news.yahoo.com/megyn-kelly-dick-cheney-iraq-interview-135553569.html

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

ppaca wrote:Even Megyn Kelly takes on Cheney and then he says well what we inherited and on, this guy is in denial.

http://news.yahoo.com/megyn-kelly-dick-cheney-iraq-interview-135553569.html

Boy Megyn really grilled Cheney in that interview....   Razz 

The best thing Dick Cheney could ever do is fade into retirement and shut-up. His legacy in history has already been written, and it will not be a positive one.

Perhaps he needs to take up oil-painting, like Dubya did.

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Sal

Sal

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:

Perhaps he needs to take up oil-painting, like Dubya did.

Nah, he should just go with what he knows ....

.... gettin' drunk and shootin' old folks in the face.

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

Sal wrote:
ZVUGKTUBM wrote:

Perhaps he needs to take up oil-painting, like Dubya did.

Nah, he should just go with what he knows ....

.... gettin' drunk and shootin' old folks in the face.

Uh Oh Mr. Markle...the guy you say won the war......he says the president is right Cheney10

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2seaoat



The President made it clear this afternoon that the occupation of Iraq is over and ground troops will not return to combat. The General and the President understand that the Iraqi people must figure this out without the Military Industrial complex banging the war drums and arguing the wheels of the President are falling off.......nothing could be further from the truth. This President is showing a depth of leadership and courage that few before him could measure. Fortunately for him the crazies have been so off the wall with the false scandals and birth certificate type lunacy, that most Americans could not agree more with the General's and the President's position.......the shrill screams of our shills will begin in earnest as this year advances and all American troops find their way home from wrongful occupations.

All the President has ever had to say was "NO". The lunacy will end.

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

2seaoat wrote:The President made it clear this afternoon that the occupation of Iraq is over and ground troops will not return to combat.   The General and the President understand that the Iraqi people must figure this out without the Military Industrial complex banging the war drums and arguing the wheels of the President are falling off.......nothing could be further from the truth.   This President is showing a depth of leadership and courage that few before him could measure.   Fortunately for him the crazies have been so off the wall with the false scandals and birth certificate type lunacy, that most Americans could not agree more with the General's and the President's position.......the shrill screams of our shills will begin in earnest as this year advances and all American troops find their way home from wrongful occupations.

All the President has ever had to say was "NO".   The lunacy will end.

You just made Markle's and PaceDog's heads pop.  Razz 

Definite crickets from those two on this thread......

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Markle

Markle

2seaoat wrote:How will Pace and Mr. Markle sleep tonight?

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/iraq-turmoil/petraeus-breaks-hawks-iraq-echoes-obamas-warnings-n135601

Very well, thank you for your concern. I will sleep just fine thank you.

As you now concede, General Petraeus WON the war in Iraq and turned over a stable country to President Barack Hussein Obama.

General Petraeus is a realist. He is stating what the real situation is today. There are few if any options. NO one is suggesting that we send another 100,000 troops. NO ONE.

Iraq is not unlike a man who has been thrown off the roof of a 10 story building (as President Obama did with Iraq) the man is now two feet from the ground and what are the solutions to save the man.

Now we have a situation of unimaginable chaos, killing and ruthless war.

Thank you President Obama.

Now we have the largest military installation in the world being handed over to the most ruthless, bloodthirsty terrorists the world has ever seen. So vile, al Qaeda threw them out.

Of this massive trouble for innocent people around the world, you are happy.

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

Markle wrote:
2seaoat wrote:How will Pace and Mr. Markle sleep tonight?

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/iraq-turmoil/petraeus-breaks-hawks-iraq-echoes-obamas-warnings-n135601

Very well, thank you for your concern.  I will sleep just fine thank you.

As you now concede, General Petraeus WON the war in Iraq and turned over a stable country to President Barack Hussein Obama.

General Petraeus is a realist.  He is stating what the real situation is today.  There are few if any options.  NO one is suggesting that we send another 100,000 troops.  NO ONE.

Iraq is not unlike a man who has been thrown off the roof of a 10 story building (as President Obama did with Iraq) the man is now two feet from the ground and what are the solutions to save the man.

Now we have a situation of unimaginable chaos, killing and ruthless war.

Thank you President Obama.

Now we have the largest military installation in the world being handed over to the most ruthless, bloodthirsty terrorists the world has ever seen.  So vile, al Qaeda threw them out.

Of this massive trouble for innocent people around the world, you are happy.


The master of propaganda has spoken! Thank you for entertaining us with your clap-trap musings, Markle. You did not disappoint us......  Razz

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2seaoat



Of this massive trouble for innocent people around the world, you are happy.


I am ecstatic that the illusion of our occupation creating instant coffee democracy has ended, and the people of Iraq can find their own way. The horrors you see have no more to do with the President than you making a big stinky dump in the toilet and I flush your mess down, and you blame me for the same. The President has taken control and I am sure your handlers just do not know where to go next.......they are kinda at a loss.....like you really expected him to go back into Iraq.....really?

President Obama is keeping his election promises and he is showing a depth and breath which is intelligent and so refreshing from the clumsy use of American Power.

Markle

Markle

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:From that article:

The retired general warned Wednesday that the political conditions now in Iraq mean that military intervention would falter because both sides would perceive the United States as favoring one religious faction against another rather than as squashing terrorism alone.

Hmmmm......

Did you read the phrase "PHYSICAL CONDITIONS NOW IN IRAQ".

This is the result of the policies and doctrines of President Barack Hussein Obama. Which, as you well know, is exactly what we, the realists in our country, said was going to happen in 2011 when President Obama announced this bound to fail policy.

Markle

Markle

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:
Markle wrote:
2seaoat wrote:How will Pace and Mr. Markle sleep tonight?

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/iraq-turmoil/petraeus-breaks-hawks-iraq-echoes-obamas-warnings-n135601

Very well, thank you for your concern.  I will sleep just fine thank you.

As you now concede, General Petraeus WON the war in Iraq and turned over a stable country to President Barack Hussein Obama.

General Petraeus is a realist.  He is stating what the real situation is today.  There are few if any options.  NO one is suggesting that we send another 100,000 troops.  NO ONE.

Iraq is not unlike a man who has been thrown off the roof of a 10 story building (as President Obama did with Iraq) the man is now two feet from the ground and what are the solutions to save the man.

Now we have a situation of unimaginable chaos, killing and ruthless war.

Thank you President Obama.

Now we have the largest military installation in the world being handed over to the most ruthless, bloodthirsty terrorists the world has ever seen.  So vile, al Qaeda threw them out.

Of this massive trouble for innocent people around the world, you are happy.


The master of propaganda has spoken! Thank you for entertaining us with your clap-trap musings, Markle. You did not disappoint us......  Razz

And you have nothing.... Thanks for going out of your way to make your admission.

2seaoat



The bound to fail policy was not put in place in 2011, it was put in place in 2002-2003, and like a group of terrorist who break into the cockpit and steers the hijacked plane into the ground, your logic argues that the passengers are at fault because they did not rally and pull the plane from its inevitable dive and crash as the passengers said "lets roll", Mr. Markle sitting in his Monday morning QB chair argues......well it really was the failure of the passengers which caused the plane crash, and the "lets roll" effort was a complete failure and caused the plane to crash.......everything was stable before the plane hit the ground.....we had won........and those damn passengers crashed the plane.....carry on Mr. Markle......but I hear Nexium is now available over the counter.....and my guess is that you and your handlers need to start chewing on those purple pills....upset stomachs have just began. The American people want none of what you are peddling.

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

....we, the realists in our country....

Uh Oh Mr. Markle...the guy you say won the war......he says the president is right Laughi25

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ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

...The bound to fail policy was not put in place in 2011, it was put in place in 2002-2003...

Iraq fights militants around oil refinery
http://www.pennenergy.com/articles/pennenergy/2014/06/iraq-fights-militants-around-oil-refinery.html?cmpid=EnlResearchJune192014

Further down in that article, it talks about those GOP politicians who now have second thoughts over support for further military action in Iraq.


Republicans have been critical of Obama's handling of Iraq, but Congress remains deeply divided over what steps the U.S. can take militarily. Even lawmakers who voted in 2002 to give President George W. Bush the authority to use military force to oust Saddam Hussein have expressed doubts about the effectiveness of drone airstrikes and worry about Americans returning to the fight in a country split by sectarian violence.

"Where will it lead and will that be the beginning or the end?" Sen. Richard Shelby, R-Ala., said, when asked about possible U.S. airstrikes. "We don't know that. This underlying conflict has been going on 1,500 years between the Shias and the Sunnis and their allies. And I think whatever we do, it's not going to go away."


Markle had better get busy trying to motivate the GOP base. It does not look like they are trending toward his point of view. It won't stop him from spewing his pap on this forum, however.

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Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Herr Markle claims that Dubya and his gang won the war in Iraq.

Really? We solved the problem of Kurd vs. Shiia vs. Sunni, who have been actively in conflict for some 1400 years?

Herr Markle, what you're selling is bullshit and both you and I know it!

Where we failed in choosing to go into Iraq in the first place, is we thought that with our salesmanship and voodoo dollars, we could improvise a democracy that would moderate the animosity, suspicion, and hatred between the three biggest tribal factions.

What Dubya fashioned was a totally unworkable solution.

Our efforts were doomed before we started and the Iraqis now are the same Iraqis we thought we would democratize with our guns, goods and dollars.

Under Dubya and Obama, what we've benefited from the loss of so much treasure and blood in Iraq, is zero. Nada. Zip.

At least Obama got us out of the unwinnable conflict Dubya lied us into.

Reality.

2seaoat






Houston, shill central has a problem.......the American public, all the experts, and common sense scream out........we left Iraq and we are not going back.....what part of the failed propaganda machine can you salvage......you know the one that said we won, and by leaving we lost.........is Mr. Markle the only person on this forum who actually believes the crap they are feeding him?

othershoe1030

othershoe1030

BTW, reported on NBC nightly news last night with Brian Williams...a report from Richard Engle re the American "advisors" being sent to Iraq...Iran already has advisors of its own on the ground there. Haven't heard this anywhere else. Iran v US advisors. What next?

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

2seaoat wrote:
Houston, shill central has a problem.......the American public, all the experts, and common sense scream out........we left Iraq and we are not going back.....what part of the failed propaganda machine can you salvage......you know the one that said we won, and by leaving we lost.........is Mr. Markle the only person on this forum who actually believes the crap they are feeding him?

Uh Oh Mr. Markle...the guy you say won the war......he says the president is right Ha_ha_10

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2seaoat



Bomb....bomb.....bomb............bomb......bomb.....bomb.....Iran......oooopppps


The President with the wheels falling off his presidency is doing what.......talking to Iran.......joint action with Iran........Did you say diplomacy........by golly what a weak asz President this guy is.........but then again intelligence has been in short supply.......what can shill central do now.....start a controversy on the DMV not getting your license plates to people on time........Blame yourself and blame Obama.

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

othershoe1030 wrote:BTW, reported on NBC nightly news last night with Brian Williams...a report from Richard Engle re the American "advisors" being sent to Iraq...Iran already has advisors of its own on the ground there. Haven't heard this anywhere else. Iran v US advisors. What next?


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