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1Party of Pussies Empty Party of Pussies 2/13/2014, 12:46 pm

Sal

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Disgraceful ...

WASHINGTON — After the shutdown, the filibusters and years of stalled bills, it was the actual passage of legislation this week that revealed the true depth of congressional dysfunction.

The House vote to raise the debt limit and stifle the budget wars was remarkable not only for its lack of brinkmanship, but for the vote count itself. The 28 members of the Republican majority who voted for the bill — a meager 12 percent — was the lowest percentage for a majority on passage since the House began publishing electronic data on votes in 1991. It has to rank among the lowest ever for a body defined by strict majority rule.

Not to be outdone, the Senate on Wednesday flirted with a market crisis as Republicans were initially reluctant to provide a handful of votes to overcome a procedural hurdle before clearing the way for the Senate to send President Obama legislation that takes the debt limit off the table until March 2015.

The results in both the Senate and House illustrate the countervailing political forces at work on Capitol Hill and how the current partisan environment makes governing so difficult.

For a bill to pass the House with such scant support from the party in control, most members of the Republican majority had to quietly want it to pass to avoid the real-world consequences — an economy-rattling default — while being able to vote against it to dodge a backlash from conservative activists threatening repercussions. It was the purest incarnation yet of what has become known as the Vote No, Hope Yes Caucus.

The Senate vote was similar. Most Republicans badly wanted the debt limit to be raised — particularly since the House had already left town and Wall Street was unlikely to look kindly on a potential default. They just did not want their fingerprints on it.


The implications for governing are obvious. If many lawmakers are unwilling or refuse to vote for legislation that they understand to be necessary, and even beneficial, out of fear of retribution from an empowered and outspoken wing of their party, reaching agreement on major policy like immigration becomes difficult if not impossible.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/13/us/politics/vote-no-hope-yes-defines-dysfunction-in-congress.html?pagewanted=all&_r=1

Pretending to be against something because their afraid of being primaried by the knuckle-draggers, but allowing it to pass because secretly they know it's good for the country.

That's some kind of House Boehner's running.

The GOP is sub-mental.

2Party of Pussies Empty Re: Party of Pussies 2/13/2014, 1:03 pm

boards of FL

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Sal wrote:For a bill to pass the House with such scant support from the party in control, most members of the Republican majority had to quietly want it to pass to avoid the real-world consequences — an economy-rattling default — while being able to vote against it to dodge a backlash from conservative activists threatening repercussions. It was the purest incarnation yet of what has become known as the Vote No, Hope Yes Caucus.

The Senate vote was similar. Most Republicans badly wanted the debt limit to be raised — particularly since the House had already left town and Wall Street was unlikely to look kindly on a potential default. They just did not want their fingerprints on it.



Poetic justice.  It's hilarious seeing the karmic consequences beginning to manifest in congress that resulted from the dumbing down of the republican base through the Tea Party movement.


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3Party of Pussies Empty Re: Party of Pussies 2/13/2014, 1:34 pm

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Someone say party of pussy's?

4Party of Pussies Empty Re: Party of Pussies 2/13/2014, 3:44 pm

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'the Vote No, Hope Yes Caucus'
 
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5Party of Pussies Empty Re: Party of Pussies 2/13/2014, 4:18 pm

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March 6th, 2006

"Mr. President, I rise today to talk about America's debt problem.

The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can't pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government's reckless fiscal policies.

Over the past 5 years, our federal debt has increased by $3.5 trillion to $8.6 trillion. That is "trillion" with a "T." That is money that we have borrowed from the Social Security trust fund, borrowed from China and Japan, borrowed from American taxpayers. And over the next 5 years, between now and 2011, the President's budget will increase the debt by almost another $3.5 trillion.

Numbers that large are sometimes hard to understand. Some people may wonder why they matter. Here is why: This year, the Federal Government will spend $220 billion on interest. That is more money to pay interest on our national debt than we'll spend on Medicaid and the State Children's Health Insurance Program. That is more money to pay interest on our debt this year than we will spend on education, homeland security, transportation, and veterans benefits combined. It is more money in one year than we are likely to spend to rebuild the devastated gulf coast in a way that honors the best of America.

And the cost of our debt is one of the fastest growing expenses in the Federal budget. This rising debt is a hidden domestic enemy, robbing our cities and States of critical investments in infrastructure like bridges, ports, and levees; robbing our families and our children of critical investments in education and health care reform; robbing our seniors of the retirement and health security they have counted on. Every dollar we pay in interest is a dollar that is not going to investment in America's priorities. Instead, interest payments are a significant tax on all Americans — a debt tax that Washington doesn't want to talk about. If Washington were serious about honest tax relief in this country, we would see an effort to reduce our national debt by returning to responsible fiscal policies.

But we are not doing that. Despite repeated efforts by Senators Conrad and Feingold, the Senate continues to reject a return to the commonsense Pay-go rules that used to apply. Previously, Pay-go rules applied both to increases in mandatory spending and to tax cuts. The Senate had to abide by the commonsense budgeting principle of balancing expenses and revenues. Unfortunately, the principle was abandoned, and now the demands of budget discipline apply only to spending. As a result, tax breaks have not been paid for by reductions in Federal spending, and thus the only way to pay for them has been to increase our deficit to historically high levels and borrow more and more money. Now we have to pay for those tax breaks plus the cost of borrowing for them. Instead of reducing the deficit, as some people claimed, the fiscal policies of this administration and its allies in Congress will add more than $600 million in debt for each of the next 5 years. That is why I will once again cosponsor the Pay-go amendment and continue to hope that my colleagues will return to a smart rule that has worked in the past and can work again.

Our debt also matters internationally. My friend, the ranking member of the Senate Budget Committee, likes to remind us that it took 42 Presidents 224 years to run up only $1 trillion of foreign-held debt. This administration did more than that in just 5 years. Now, there is nothing wrong with borrowing from foreign countries. But we must remember that the more we depend on foreign nations to lend us money, the more our economic security is tied to the whims of foreign leaders whose interests might not be aligned with ours.

Increasing America's debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that "the buck stops here.'' Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.

I therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase America's debt limit."

Barrack H. Obama
US Senator

6Party of Pussies Empty Re: Party of Pussies 2/13/2014, 4:24 pm

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Sorry... I forgot to mention that he voted "NO".

I know nothing matters when it comes the left... but it'd be nice if we could use one set of standards.

7Party of Pussies Empty Re: Party of Pussies 2/13/2014, 7:23 pm

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PkrBum wrote:March 6th, 2006

"Mr. President, I rise today to talk about America's debt problem.

The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can't pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government's reckless fiscal policies.

Over the past 5 years, our federal debt has increased by $3.5 trillion to $8.6 trillion. That is "trillion" with a "T." That is money that we have borrowed from the Social Security trust fund, borrowed from China and Japan, borrowed from American taxpayers. And over the next 5 years, between now and 2011, the President's budget will increase the debt by almost another $3.5 trillion.



Numbers that large are sometimes hard to understand. Some people may wonder why they matter. Here is why: This year, the Federal Government will spend $220 billion on interest. That is more money to pay interest on our national debt than we'll spend on Medicaid and the State Children's Health Insurance Program. That is more money to pay interest on our debt this year than we will spend on education, homeland security, transportation, and veterans benefits combined. It is more money in one year than we are likely to spend to rebuild the devastated gulf coast in a way that honors the best of America.

And the cost of our debt is one of the fastest growing expenses in the Federal budget. This rising debt is a hidden domestic enemy, robbing our cities and States of critical investments in infrastructure like bridges, ports, and levees; robbing our families and our children of critical investments in education and health care reform; robbing our seniors of the retirement and health security they have counted on. Every dollar we pay in interest is a dollar that is not going to investment in America's priorities. Instead, interest payments are a significant tax on all Americans — a debt tax that Washington doesn't want to talk about. If Washington were serious about honest tax relief in this country, we would see an effort to reduce our national debt by returning to responsible fiscal policies.

But we are not doing that. Despite repeated efforts by Senators Conrad and Feingold, the Senate continues to reject a return to the commonsense Pay-go rules that used to apply. Previously, Pay-go rules applied both to increases in mandatory spending and to tax cuts. The Senate had to abide by the commonsense budgeting principle of balancing expenses and revenues. Unfortunately, the principle was abandoned, and now the demands of budget discipline apply only to spending. As a result, tax breaks have not been paid for by reductions in Federal spending, and thus the only way to pay for them has been to increase our deficit to historically high levels and borrow more and more money. Now we have to pay for those tax breaks plus the cost of borrowing for them. Instead of reducing the deficit, as some people claimed, the fiscal policies of this administration and its allies in Congress will add more than $600 million in debt for each of the next 5 years. That is why I will once again cosponsor the Pay-go amendment and continue to hope that my colleagues will return to a smart rule that has worked in the past and can work again.

Our debt also matters internationally. My friend, the ranking member of the Senate Budget Committee, likes to remind us that it took 42 Presidents 224 years to run up only $1 trillion of foreign-held debt. This administration did more than that in just 5 years. Now, there is nothing wrong with borrowing from foreign countries. But we must remember that the more we depend on foreign nations to lend us money, the more our economic security is tied to the whims of foreign leaders whose interests might not be aligned with ours.

Increasing America's debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that "the buck stops here.'' Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.

I therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase America's debt limit."

Barrack H. Obama
US Senator

BAM!  cheers 


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8Party of Pussies Empty Re: Party of Pussies 2/13/2014, 8:14 pm

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Makes you wonder what they voted for the second time... huh?

He sounds alot like that radical fringe extremist radical group of tea party of no... huh?

9Party of Pussies Empty Re: Party of Pussies 2/13/2014, 8:50 pm

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PkrBum wrote:Makes you wonder what they voted for the second time... huh?

He sounds alot like that radical fringe extremist radical group of tea party of no... huh?

pictures say a thousand words.

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10Party of Pussies Empty Re: Party of Pussies 2/13/2014, 9:07 pm

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Well... it sounded good when a leftist said it. Now... not so much. Why would be a good question?

11Party of Pussies Empty Re: Party of Pussies 2/13/2014, 9:14 pm

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PkrBum wrote:Well... it sounded good when a leftist said it. Now... not so much. Why would be a good question?

personally, ive grown to despise them all.

12Party of Pussies Empty Re: Party of Pussies 2/13/2014, 11:14 pm

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Dot wrote:
PkrBum wrote:Well... it sounded good when a leftist said it. Now... not so much. Why would be a good question?

personally, ive grown to despise them all.


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At least you're not discriminating if you look at it that way.

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13Party of Pussies Empty Re: Party of Pussies 2/14/2014, 10:44 am

Floridatexan

Floridatexan


http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/04/14/158424/republican-leaders-debt-limit-hypocrisy/

During Bush Presidency, Current GOP Leaders Voted 19 Times to Increase Debt Ceiling Limit by $4 Trillion

(from April 14, 2011)

After pushing the government to brink of shutdown last week, Republican Congressional leaders are now preparing to push America to the edge of default by refusing to increase the nation’s debt limit without first getting Democrats to concede to large spending cuts.
But while the four Republicans in Congressional leadership positions are attempting to hold the increase hostage now, they combined to vote for a debt limit increase 19 times during the presidency of George W. Bush. In doing so, they increased the debt limit by nearly $4 trillion.
At the beginning of the Bush presidency, the United States debt limit was $5.95 trillion. Despite promises that he would pay off the debt in 10 years, Bush increased the debt to $9.815 trillion by the end of his term, with plenty of help from the four Republicans currently holding Congressional leadership positions: Speaker John Boehner, House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, and Senate Minority Whip Jon Kyl. ThinkProgress compiled a breakdown of the five debt limit increases that took place during the Bush presidency and how the four Republican leaders voted:

June 2002: Congress approves a $450 billion increase, raising the debt limit to $6.4 trillion. McConnell, Boehner, and Cantor vote “yea”, Kyl votes “nay.”
May 2003: Congress approves a $900 billion increase, raising the debt limit to $7.384 trillion. All four approve.
November 2004: Congress approves an $800 billion increase, raising the debt limit to $8.1 trillion. All four approve.
March 2006: Congress approves a $781 billion increase, raising the debt limit to $8.965 trillion. All four approve.
September 2007: Congress approves an $850 billion increase, raising the debt limit to $9.815 trillion. All four approve.

Database searches revealed no demands from the four legislators that debt increases come accompanied by drastic spending cuts, as there are now. In fact, the May 2003 debt limit increase passed the Senate the same day as the $350 billion Bush tax cuts for the wealthy.
When Bush was in office, the current Republican leaders viewed increasing the debt limit as vital to keeping America’s economy running. But with Obama in the White House, it’s nothing more than a political pawn.

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And today:
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2014/02/11/3277961/republicans-clean-debt-ceiling/


14Party of Pussies Empty Re: Party of Pussies 2/14/2014, 11:23 am

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If the debt accrued under bush bothers you... then you must really be pissed at obama.

15Party of Pussies Empty Re: Party of Pussies 2/14/2014, 11:23 am

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If the debt accrued under bush bothers you... then you must really be pissed at obama.

16Party of Pussies Empty Re: Party of Pussies 2/14/2014, 11:23 am

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PkrBum wrote:Makes you wonder what they voted for the second time... huh?

He sounds alot like that radical fringe extremist radical group of tea party of no... huh?


I voted against the crazies in favor of a party that lives in the real world.


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17Party of Pussies Empty Re: Party of Pussies 2/14/2014, 11:43 am

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If the debt accrued under bush bothers you... then you must really be pissed at obama.

Reagan's economic policies set into motion structural debt which even Bill Clinton's four years of balanced budgets could not slow as the anti union kill the middle class tax policies and wealth transfer policies built a debt which crashed the economy in 2008. President Obama's first two years account for most of his contribution to the sum total of debt, and his last 4 years have cut the budget deficit in half, but my hero Ronald Reagan set in motion 30 years of economic decline and debt which has devastated median income and the middle class......you can play your slight of hand with someone who is clueless, but this has been hard for me to admit, but everything I believed in for 30 years was BS trickle down......and I fell for it hook line and sinker.

18Party of Pussies Empty Re: Party of Pussies 2/14/2014, 12:23 pm

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

PkrBum wrote:If the debt accrued under bush bothers you... then you must really be pissed at obama.

Not for that reason...and the debt accrued since Obama took office is not due to wars of aggression and tax breaks for the wealthy. Plus, the bottom fell out at the end of Bush's term...there was no choice but spending...none. I see your strategy, though...lump everything from Bush and Obama together and call it "progressivism". That way, you can dismiss the treasonous Bush and Cheney out of hand and blame it on the current occupant of 1600.

19Party of Pussies Empty Re: Party of Pussies 2/14/2014, 12:31 pm

Floridatexan

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20Party of Pussies Empty Re: Party of Pussies 2/14/2014, 12:51 pm

Floridatexan

Floridatexan


Oh, and Sal...please don't disparage cats...it's more like this:

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21Party of Pussies Empty Re: Party of Pussies 2/14/2014, 1:01 pm

Markle

Markle

2seaoat wrote:If the debt accrued under bush bothers you... then you must really be pissed at obama.

Reagan's economic policies set into motion structural debt which even Bill Clinton's four years of balanced budgets could not slow as the anti union kill the middle class tax policies and wealth transfer policies built a debt which crashed the economy in 2008.  President Obama's first two years account for most of his contribution to the sum total of debt, and his last 4 years have cut the budget deficit in half, but my hero Ronald Reagan set in motion 30 years of economic decline and debt which has devastated median income and the middle class......you can play your slight of hand with someone who is clueless, but this has been hard for me to admit, but everything I believed in for 30 years was BS trickle down......and I fell for it hook line and sinker.

Never give up do you? How is your pet unicorn?

Please show us the 30 years of economic decline from the time President Ronald Reagan took office.

Maybe you should print this and tape it to your monitor so you don't FORGET...AGAIN.

President Ronald Reagan's fiscal policies lead more than TWENTY FIVE YEARS of economic prosperity and low unemployment?

Progressives should remember that the inflation rate was 13.5% when President Reagan took office. As Progressives SHOULD KNOW, that rate hurts low and middle income earners the most. It was 4.14% the year he left office. Thirty year mortgage rates were 16.6% [They reached over 18%] when Reagan took office (Progressives calculate your mortgage balance at THAT rate), how many homes can be sold at 18% interest. It was 10.32% when he left, sky high by today’s standards but a drastic improvement. The Top Tax Rate was 70% when he took office and 28% when he left.

REVENUES, as a result of those cuts nearly DOUBLED in that decade. The National Debt increased, due to Democrat spending, from $900 BILLION to $2.6 TRILLION over EIGHT YEARS. That is a far smaller increase over EIGHT YEARS than President Barack Hussein Obama has done to us in 2 ½ years, PLUS a projected DEFICIT for 2012 of $1.3 TRILLION!

Unemployment was rapidly increasing when Reagan took office and reached an annual average of 9.7% (10.8% November/December of 1982) his second year before the tax cuts went into effect. After the tax rate cuts, unemployment dropped steadily to 5.3% his last year in office.

Why would Progressives…”mislead”… about these FACTS? Think we had forgotten?

22Party of Pussies Empty Re: Party of Pussies 2/14/2014, 1:05 pm

Markle

Markle

Floridatexan wrote:
PkrBum wrote:If the debt accrued under bush bothers you... then you must really be pissed at obama.

Not for that reason...and the debt accrued since Obama took office is not due to wars of aggression and tax breaks for the wealthy.  Plus, the bottom fell out at the end of Bush's term...there was no choice but spending...none.  I see your strategy, though...lump everything from Bush and Obama together and call it "progressivism".  That way, you can dismiss the treasonous Bush and Cheney out of hand and blame it on the current occupant of 1600.  

Please tell us what brought us out of the DEPRESSION of 1920-1921.

23Party of Pussies Empty Re: Party of Pussies 2/14/2014, 1:15 pm

Markle

Markle

boards of FL wrote:
PkrBum wrote:Makes you wonder what they voted for the second time... huh?

He sounds alot like that radical fringe extremist radical group of tea party of no... huh?


I voted against the crazies in favor of a party that lives in the real world.

The Fast and Furious massive gun scandal costing the life of one of our federal agents and only one of the perpetrators being held accountable

The growing massive IRS scandal with no one responsible or accountable

The massive AP scandal with no one responsible or accountable

The massive NSA scandal with no one responsible or accountable

The horrid and ignored Benghazi scandal where organized
al Qaeda terrorists planned and executed an attack on one of our embassies murdering four Americans and our Ambassador for the first time in over 30 years

Then the crowning failure, ObamaCare which even accounts for President Barack Hussein Obama winning the LIAR OF THE YEAR award.

Record rate and number of those in Poverty

Record rate and number of people on Food Stamps

Record rate and number of people going from unemployment to...disability for permanent handouts.

Record LOW rate of workers in the market working.

24Party of Pussies Empty Re: Party of Pussies 2/14/2014, 1:28 pm

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

Why would Progressives…”mislead”… about these FACTS? Think we had forgotten?
 
Why do you keep posting the lie that the Democrats forced Ronald Reagan to establish the (then) largest deficits in peactime in our nation's history?

Republicans were big spenders under Reagan, who funneled untold billions into military spending, while continuing to grow all other areas of the government.

It is too bad that the 1985 Gramm-Rudman-Hollings Deficit Reduction Act was declared unconstitutional. It might have stopped Reagan's wild spending in its tracks, and set our nation on a less-suicidal course before it was too late.

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25Party of Pussies Empty Re: Party of Pussies 2/14/2014, 1:29 pm

boards of FL

boards of FL

These copy-and-pastes are absolutely hilarious, Markle.  It's like watching the highly edited FIFA footage that North Korea used to show its citizens that it won the World Cup!

For the numerate among us...

Tax revenues increased by 18.7% during the Reagan years.  Tax cuts.

Tax revenues increased by 3.3% during the Bush I years.  Tax cuts.

Tax revenues increased by 57.4% during the Clinton years.  Tax increases.

Tax revenues decreased by 0.9% during the Bush II years.  Tax cuts.

Tax revenues decreased by 0.7% during the Obama years through 2013.  Combo of tax cuts and tax increases.

http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfacts/displayafact.cfm?Docid=200


For the crazies...


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