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knothead wrote:Profound . . . .

I wish PaceDog would reveal the URL of the website where he gets all of those wingnut posters he has been putting on different threads lately.  

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Here are some facts:

http://middleeast.about.com/od/usmideastpolicy/a/me090413a.htm

In 1977, neither President Carter nor the CIA saw the brutally repressive regime of Mohammed Reza Pahlavi, the shah of Iran and a staunch ally of the United States, as in any way endangered. Thousands of Iranians protested the shah’s visit to Washington that year. The shah, and Carter, ignored them. Within a year, Iran was engulfed in revolutionary fervor, and the shah’s regime teetering.
Zbignew Brzezinski vs. Cyrus Vance

Carter’s national security adviser, Zbignew Brzezinski — a cold war hardliner whose realism was more coherent in essays than in reality — had pushed Carter to take a hawkish stance against Iran’s revolutionary Islamist students. (The same Brzezinski would soon be enthusiastically endorsing American support of militant Islamists in their fight against Soviet occupiers in Afghanistan.) As protests against the shah grew and became violent, Brzezinski wanted Carter to support a military crackdown by the shah, including the imposition of martial law and the use of force, if necessary. Carter resisted getting personally involved. His commitment to human rights overrode Brzezinski’s concerns that the shah could be toppled.

Cyrus Vance, Carter’s secretary of state, had urged the president to stop backing the shah and open a line of communication with Khomeini when the ayatollah was still in Paris. Carter, not wanting to look like the president who “lost Iran,” refused to pull back official support of the shah.

The Shah loses Power

But by November 1978, the shah’s hold on power was academic. It was a matter of time before he’d be driven out. When, on Nov. 6, 1978, the Shah imposed martial law, his speech to the nation sounded like a surrender: “I commit myself to make up for past mistakes, to fight corruption and injustices and to form a national government to carry out free elections.”

Two months later—on Jan. 16, 1979—the shah fled Iran. And on Feb. 1, Ayatollah Ruholla Khomeini flew on an Air France jumbo jet from Paris to Tehran. Carter sent a squadron of F-16s to Saudi Arabia as a show of American force and will. But word leaked that the F-16s were unarmed. It was a humiliation for Carter that sent a message to American foes: the United States was not committed to defend its interests forcefully.

Two weeks after the Ayatollah’s de-facto reign began, Iranian revolutionary guerillas took over the American embassy in Tehran—but only for two hours. Revolutionary Guards intervened against the attackers, and Khomeini, by way of another ayatollah, apologized for the attack.

Fatal Mistake: Admitting the Shah Into the United States

The ayatollah’s tune changed in October 1979 when Carter caved to David Rockefeller’s and Henry Kissinger’s insistence that the shah be allowed into the United States for medical treatment. The shah was suffering from cancer. Rockefeller’s Chase Manhattan Bank had loaned hundreds of millions of dollars to the shah while he was in power, and Kissinger’s interests shadowed Rockefeller’s. Rockefeller was looking to get his money back. Nursing the shah while forcing Carter’s hand were cynically minded business decisions.

Carter knew the risk of letting the shah into the country. His outgoing ambassador in Iran, William Sullivan, had made it clear: “If they let him in, they will bring us out in boxes,” Sullivan told State Department official Henry Precht over the phone. The concerns were relayed to Carter, who was resisting letting the shah in until Vance defected from his side and joined the chorus urging Carter to let in the shah. “What are you guys going to advise me to do if they overrun our embassy and take our people hostage?” Carter asked his aides during a foreign policy breakfast on Oct. 19, 1979. No one answered. “On that day,” Carter went on, “we will all sit here with long drawn white faces and realize we’ve been had.”

(The quote is from Hamilton Jordan’s Crisis: The Last Year of the Carter Presidency (Putnam, 1982), page 32. Jordan was Carter’s chief of staff.)

On October 22, 1979, the shah entered the United States. On Nov. 4, militants took over the American embassy in Tehran. (The shah died on July 27, 1980, in Cairo.)

How Rockefeller and Chase Bank Profited From the Crisis

“The benefit of the embassy takeover was significant for Chase” and Rockefeller, writes Patrick Tyler in World of Trouble: The White House and the Middle East from the cold war to the war on terror (Farrar Straus Giroux, 2009). “Carter froze Iranian assets in the United States, including the hundreds of millions of dollars in Chase accounts. The freeze enabled Chase to declare Iran in default on its loans since the Iranian central bank was no longer able to move money between accounts to make interest payments. Chase then seized Iran’s cash reserves in the amount of the outstanding loans and walked away clean from the disaster.”

Carter—and the United States—would be neither so lucky nor so unscathed. And for the hostages in Iran a 444-day ordeal was just beginning.

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Then there's this, which is worse than an "October surprise":

http://dmc.members.sonic.net/sentinel/1earth2.html


"Fara Mansoor is a fugitive. No, he hasn't broken any laws in the United States. His crime is the truth. What he has to say and the documents he carries are equivalent to a death warrant for him, Mansoor is an Iranian who was part of the "establishment" in Iran long before the 1979 hostage taking. Mansoor's records actually discount the alleged "October Surprise" theory that the Ronald Reagan-George Bush team paid the Iranians not to release 52 American hostages until after the November 1980 Presidential elections.
Mansoor's meticulous documents, shared exclusively with this magazine, shows a much more sinister plot, the plot to take the hostages in the first place. "For 15 years the truth about the nature and origins of the Iranian hostage crisis has been buried in a mountain of misinformation," Mansoor states. "Endless expert analysis has served only to deepen the fog that still surrounds this issue. We have been led to believe that the 'crisis' was a spontaneous act that just sprang out of the 'chaos' of the 'Islamic Revolution'. Nothing could be further from the truth!"

[...]
"With thousands of documents to support his position, Mansoor says that the "hostage crisis" was a political "management tool" created by the pro-Bush faction of the CIA, and implemented through an a priori Alliance with Khomeini's Islamic Fundamentalists." He says the purpose was twofold:

To keep Iran intact and communist-free by putting Khomeini in full control.

To destablize the Carter Administration and put George Bush in the White House.

"The private Alliance was the logical result of the intricate Iranian political reality of the mid-70s, and a complex network of powerful U.S.-Iranian 'business' relationships," Mansoor states. "I first met Khomeini in 1963 during the failed coup attempt against the Shah. Since that time I have been intimately involved with Iranian politics. I knew in 1979 that the whole, phoney 'Islamic Revolution' was 'mission implausible'." Mansoor was frank. "There is simply no way that those guys with the beards and turbans could have pulled off such a brilliantly planned operation without very sophisticated help."
Mansoor has spent 10 years researching the issue. "I have collected enough data to yield a very clear picture. Mr. Bush's lieutenants removed the Shah, brought Khomeini back to Iran, and guided his rise to power, sticking it to President Carter, the American people (52 in particular), and the Iranian people." he stated with boxes and boxes of evidence to support his contentions. "My extensive research has revealed the heretofore untold truth about this episode. This is not another 'October Surprise' theory purporting how the hostage crisis resulted in some Khomeini-Republic better deal. That theory puts the cart before the horse. Its absurd premise is that a major international deal was initiated and consummated in three weeks. Give me a break! Bill Casey didn't have to go to Paris to play lets-make-deal. The 'deal' had been in operation for at least two years. This game of blind-man's-bluff around Casey's gravestone was more disinformation, damage control."..."

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:

knothead wrote:Profound . . . .

I wish PaceDog would reveal the URL of the website where he gets all of those wingnut posters he has been putting on different threads lately. 

Instead of that, why don't you disprove what has been posted. Or are you admitting that the FACTS are impossible for even you to overcome?

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:Good post, FT. David Rockefeller and Henry Kissenger are both globalists who want the Earth to be ruled by a world government. War, crises, and revolution are a part of their MO to reach their goal.

Please show your link this allegation.

In the mean time, is it not convicted felon and strong supporter of President Barack Hussein Obama, George Soros who founded the Open Society Institute whose name has been changed to the Open Society Foundation.

LIberals will defend the failures of liberals even after 30 years.....and yes Khomeini getting released was known and him returning to Iran was the final nail in coffin for the Shah's oppressive regime