We're idiots if Kerry makes this deal and I hope Bebe and Israel follow on through if need be

PACEDOG#1 wrote:

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:

PACEDOG#1 wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:
Oh, look...Bebe gets 96.8% of his funding from outside Israel, and over half from ONE Miami donor.

http://mondoweiss.net/2012/10/step-aside-sheldon-adelson-one-florida-family-responsible-for-half-of-netanyahu-campaign-contributions.html

...named Falic.  

Actually, Israel only gets 5% of its budget from the US. But who does Obama get his financing through? Hamas?

Ya think? Maybe because he hates Israel our country is being put through the times it is currently in? Ever looked at what happens to countries that blow off Israel and turn their back on them? Yeah, end up in dust bin of history. We can start with GB partitioning off Israel as it currently is, the Nazis trying to exterminate the Jews and move on from there....ever care to think why Israel blooms in the desert and the rest of the Arab world can't feed itself?

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:

PACEDOG#1 wrote:

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:

PACEDOG#1 wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:
Oh, look...Bebe gets 96.8% of his funding from outside Israel, and over half from ONE Miami donor.

http://mondoweiss.net/2012/10/step-aside-sheldon-adelson-one-florida-family-responsible-for-half-of-netanyahu-campaign-contributions.html

...named Falic.  

Actually, Israel only gets 5% of its budget from the US. But who does Obama get his financing through? Hamas?

Ya think? Maybe because he hates Israel our country is being put through the times it is currently in? Ever looked at what happens to countries that blow off Israel and turn their back on them? Yeah, end up in dust bin of history. We can start with GB partitioning off Israel as it currently is, the Nazis trying to exterminate the Jews and move on from there....ever care to think why Israel blooms in the desert and the rest of the Arab world can't feed itself?

After reading what you just wrote above, religious and political dogma has you bound-up in 1,000 pound chains. You need to free yourself......

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:

PACEDOG#1 wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:
Oh, look...Bebe gets 96.8% of his funding from outside Israel, and over half from ONE Miami donor.

http://mondoweiss.net/2012/10/step-aside-sheldon-adelson-one-florida-family-responsible-for-half-of-netanyahu-campaign-contributions.html

...named Falic.  

Actually, Israel only gets 5% of its budget from the US. But who does Obama get his financing through? Hamas?

PACEDOG#1 wrote:Even the Middle East experts get it too...

http://www.danielpipes.org/13591/obama-turns-on-israel

Obama is truly turning on Israel

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:

PACEDOG#1 wrote:Even the Middle East experts get it too...

http://www.danielpipes.org/13591/obama-turns-on-israel

Obama is truly turning on Israel

I like it! He doesn't need to be kissing Netanyahu's ass.
He wields the power of the purse, afterall. All he has to do is threaten to withold spare parts for their F-16s. They will be eating out of his hand then.

Neocons be damned! No more tail wagging the dog.....

Markle wrote:

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:

PACEDOG#1 wrote:Even the Middle East experts get it too...

http://www.danielpipes.org/13591/obama-turns-on-israel

Obama is truly turning on Israel

I like it! He doesn't need to be kissing Netanyahu's ass.
He wields the power of the purse, afterall. All he has to do is threaten to withold spare parts for their F-16s. They will be eating out of his hand then.

Neocons be damned! No more tail wagging the dog.....

PLEASE, other than being an anti-Semite, why would you want to punish our best friend in the Middle East?

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:

PACEDOG#1 wrote:Even the Middle East experts get it too...

http://www.danielpipes.org/13591/obama-turns-on-israel

Obama is truly turning on Israel

I like it! He doesn't need to be kissing Netanyahu's ass.
He wields the power of the purse, afterall. All he has to do is threaten to withold spare parts for their F-16s. They will be eating out of his hand then.

Neocons be damned! No more tail wagging the dog.....

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:

Markle wrote:

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:

PACEDOG#1 wrote:Even the Middle East experts get it too...

http://www.danielpipes.org/13591/obama-turns-on-israel

Obama is truly turning on Israel

I like it! He doesn't need to be kissing Netanyahu's ass.
He wields the power of the purse, afterall. All he has to do is threaten to withold spare parts for their F-16s. They will be eating out of his hand then.

Neocons be damned! No more tail wagging the dog.....

PLEASE, other than being an anti-Semite, why would you want to punish our best friend in the Middle East?

When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.

-Socrates

PACEDOG#1 wrote:He's an anti-Semite. Case closed.

PACEDOG#1 wrote:

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:

PACEDOG#1 wrote:Even the Middle East experts get it too...

http://www.danielpipes.org/13591/obama-turns-on-israel

Obama is truly turning on Israel

I like it! He doesn't need to be kissing Netanyahu's ass.
He wields the power of the purse, afterall. All he has to do is threaten to withold spare parts for their F-16s. They will be eating out of his hand then.

Neocons be damned! No more tail wagging the dog.....

Hey Epic Fail Boy, the Israelis are smart enough to reverse engineer anything we have given them and hence another reason why JEWS disproportionately have more Nobel Peace Prizes per person on Earth than any other group.

Yep, stealing other people's patents and secrets is what they are known for.

Or, getting the U.S. Congress to fund their indigenous figher plane (the IAI Lavi), cancelling its development, then selling the plans to the Chinese (now in PLAAF squadron service as the Chengdu J-10).



The Wikipedia article on the J-10 statres "....the J-10 was not only based on the Lavi, but also incorporated significant foreign technology and expertise...."

So, when you help out Israel, they sell the technology to your potential enemies. No wonder we didn't give them any F-22s.....

They also proliferate nuclear technology. In the mid-80s,South Africa was temporarily a rogue nuclear nation like Israel currently is. They held a small nuclear arsenal in the 1980s that Israel helped them develop. They in turn helped the Israelis conduct secret above-ground nuclear tests in a remote spot off of the Indian Ocean south off of South Africa in October of 1979. This was picked up by the U.S. Vella satellite, in what became known as the Vella Incident.

And, they keep spying inside the U.S., and Netanyahu has the gall to demand we release their mole, Jonathan Pollard from prison. May the traitor Pollard rot in jail until he completes his life sentence, and leaves the prison in a pine box.

What will the next Israeli outrage consist of?

PACEDOG#1 wrote:...and lastly to shut your anti-Semite piehole, Israel won all their wars before now without our help...1948, 1956, 1967 (in Six days), and 1973


You're obviously not current with J-10 tech and F-22 tech. The F-22 is a couple decades more advanced than the J-10. The J-10 is more based on Former Soviet Union airframes like the most advanced MiG and Sukhoi Fighters. If you would only do your visrecce on the J-10 vs. F-22 you would know that.

Dude, I have been studying aircraft my whole life. I am really good at visrecce, which you obviously are not. When I saw my first photo of the J-10 a few years back, I knew immediately where it came from, the IAI Lavi. I used to have this argument with Donald Skipper on the old PNJ forum--another plumber who thought he knew aircraft. No way does the J-10 compare with Russian fighters, though it does use a Russian-designed engine. It is the Lavi, and our "most trusted ally" sold the plans to the Chinese. The Chinese are, in fact, flying a fairly advanced fighter whose major development was funded by the U.S. Congress.

If the U.S. ever squares-off militarily with China, we will be facing a lot of Israeli-provided technology. Israel is a major supplier of both weapons and technology to China. But since your religious dogma allows you to be okay with all of this, we'll just let it rest for now....... 

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:

Markle wrote:

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:

PACEDOG#1 wrote:Even the Middle East experts get it too...

http://www.danielpipes.org/13591/obama-turns-on-israel

Obama is truly turning on Israel

I like it! He doesn't need to be kissing Netanyahu's ass.
He wields the power of the purse, afterall. All he has to do is threaten to withold spare parts for their F-16s. They will be eating out of his hand then.

Neocons be damned! No more tail wagging the dog.....

PLEASE, other than being an anti-Semite, why would you want to punish our best friend in the Middle East?

When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.
-Socrates

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:

PACEDOG#1 wrote:...and lastly to shut your anti-Semite piehole, Israel won all their wars before now without our help...1948, 1956, 1967 (in Six days), and 1973


You're obviously not current with J-10 tech and F-22 tech. The F-22 is a couple decades more advanced than the J-10. The J-10 is more based on Former Soviet Union airframes like the most advanced MiG and Sukhoi Fighters. If you would only do your visrecce on the J-10 vs. F-22 you would know that.

Dude, I have been studying aircraft my whole life. I am really good at visrecce, which you obviously are not. When I saw my first photo of the J-10 a few years back, I knew immediately where it came from, the IAI Lavi. I used to have this argument with Donald Skipper on the old PNJ forum--another plumber who thought he knew aircraft. No way does the J-10 compare with Russian fighters, though it does use a Russian-designed engine. It is the Lavi, and our "most trusted ally" sold the plans to the Chinese. The Chinese are, in fact, flying a fairly advanced fighter whose major development was funded by the U.S. Congress.

If the U.S. ever squares-off militarily with China, we will be facing a lot of Israeli-provided technology. Israel is a major supplier of both weapons and technology to China. But since your religious dogma allows you to be okay with all of this, we'll just let it rest for now....... 

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:

PACEDOG#1 wrote:...and lastly to shut your anti-Semite piehole, Israel won all their wars before now without our help...1948, 1956, 1967 (in Six days), and 1973


You're obviously not current with J-10 tech and F-22 tech. The F-22 is a couple decades more advanced than the J-10. The J-10 is more based on Former Soviet Union airframes like the most advanced MiG and Sukhoi Fighters. If you would only do your visrecce on the J-10 vs. F-22 you would know that.

Dude, I have been studying aircraft my whole life. I am really good at visrecce, which you obviously are not. When I saw my first photo of the J-10 a few years back, I knew immediately where it came from, the IAI Lavi. I used to have this argument with Donald Skipper on the old PNJ forum--another plumber who thought he knew aircraft. No way does the J-10 compare with Russian fighters, though it does use a Russian-designed engine. It is the Lavi, and our "most trusted ally" sold the plans to the Chinese. The Chinese are, in fact, flying a fairly advanced fighter whose major development was funded by the U.S. Congress.

If the U.S. ever squares-off militarily with China, we will be facing a lot of Israeli-provided technology. Israel is a major supplier of both weapons and technology to China. But since your religious dogma allows you to be okay with all of this, we'll just let it rest for now.......