November 3, 2013: Morris Dees on the "Patriot Movement"

The next martyr is now the TSA man. Not the work of a Insane Son of a Bitch but proof positive that the Nazis are one step away from kicking in your door..Got it..

2seaoat wrote:To call a vet that you don't even know "a coward" is the ramblings of a fool!!!

I never met Hitler and he was a vet with an honorable discharge.  However, I did read his words and they were sick and evil, and yes......cowardly.   I have no problem reaching that conclusion after five years of cowardly hateful blame, which does no happen in a vaccum, but influences the real world.  However, that is an interesting way to create revisionist history......all the monsters who have thrived in hate and prejudice in history can be excused for being a vet.....welcome to your world.

Hitler got an Honorable discharge LOLOLOLOLOOLOOl Really? Do you have his personnel records?

Why are all hate groups considered "right wing" according to numbnuts Morris Dees?

The next martyr is now the TSA man. Not the work of a Insane Son of a Bitch but proof positive that the Nazis are one step away from kicking in your door..Got it..


No not a martyr. Just a good government employee who actually probably cared that your family could fly safely. Probably he felt the glares from people which were fed the hate. People who were in a hurry and were being asked to take their shoes off. You know the teacher, the fireman, the policeman, and the serviceman all in the employee of the government. All trying to do something we as a democracy have deemed worthy.....taking crap constantly that they are inept, and evil. Nothing wrong in a democracy discussing change and improvement, it is quite another thing when traitors and nazis in our midst want to burn the nation down.....to destroy democracy and equality, and how best to do the same....well the model was perfected by Hitler and his propaganda machine.....you need to challenge the legitimacy of government. You need to create scapegoats and bad people, and then once the government of the people for the people is gone......there is no one to stand in the way of the hate......yep, just a good government employee who supported his family, not some failed broken man who needs and excuse to justify their sad life......who listening to the hate made a decision to dehumanize that simple employee doing his job......hate has consequences, and apologists will have a special place in hell.....but nope....no martyrs needed because there are millions of good people who work for governmental units, and they are not the problem, nor do they need to become martyrs.....the truth will prevail.

Why are all hate groups considered "right wing" according to numbnuts Morris Dees?

Hate is hate.....it has no political exemption, and you are correct it is not only right wing groups. Evil must be addressed independent of political philosophy if destruction of this nation is the goal. There are hateful revolutionary groups of the left who also want to bring this nation down......they should be given no ground, and challenged at every turn.

PACEDOG#1 wrote:Why are all hate groups considered "right wing" according to numbnuts Morris Dees?

That's not what he said. He was talking specifically about far right extremism.

He didn't say all hate groups are right wing.

So why is it far right wing? There aren't any far left wing hate groups? Does the New BLack Panthers ring a bell? Should I go on? Is Dees tracking them as well?

"It involves honor and duty."

Some of us have proven that by our actions and service. Unless you can prove other wise, you have no cause to question my honor and duty to my country.... I defend the right of people to say whatever they wish. Even those I that very strongly disagree with and tug at the fabric of our society.

PACEDOG#1 wrote:So why is it far right wing? There aren't any far left wing hate groups? Does the New BLack Panthers ring a bell? Should I go on? Is Dees tracking them as well?

Yep.

PBulldog2 wrote:

PACEDOG#1 wrote:So why is it far right wing? There aren't any far left wing hate groups? Does the New BLack Panthers ring a bell? Should I go on? Is Dees tracking them as well?

Yep.

PB, let me ask you again.

Do you or do you not agree with seaoat in his assessment of Teo?

PACEDOG#1 wrote:
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So why is it far right wing? There aren't any far left wing hate groups? Does the New BLack Panthers ring a bell? Should I go on? Is Dees tracking them as well?
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Yep.
by Chrissy Today at 6:42 pm
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Prove it

PBulldog2 wrote: I am on the Southern Poverty Law Center's mailing list, so it's fairly obvious where I stand on the issue of hate groups.

I didn't know that the number of patriot/militia groups had increased so drastically. That is frightening to me.

Indeed it does, you are a proud member of one.

As you well know, Morris Dees is FAMOUS for his over exaggeration of "hate" groups.

Markle wrote:

PBulldog2 wrote: I am on the Southern Poverty Law Center's mailing list, so it's fairly obvious where I stand on the issue of hate groups.

I didn't know that the number of patriot/militia groups had increased so drastically. That is frightening to me.

Indeed it does, you are a proud member of one.

As you well know, Morris Dees is FAMOUS for his over exaggeration of "hate" groups.  

Correct.. It is how he makes his money and passes disinformation

Mr Ichi wrote:

Markle wrote:

PBulldog2 wrote: I am on the Southern Poverty Law Center's mailing list, so it's fairly obvious where I stand on the issue of hate groups.

I didn't know that the number of patriot/militia groups had increased so drastically. That is frightening to me.

Indeed it does, you are a proud member of one.

As you well know, Morris Dees is FAMOUS for his over exaggeration of "hate" groups.  

Correct.. It is how he makes his money and passes disinformation

Wrong. Morris Dee's made his money being a hell of a lawyer. The Southern Poverty Law Center is a non profit that spends their money tearing down these hate groups.

PACEDOG#1 wrote:
Prove it

The New Black Panther Party is a virulently racist and anti-Semitic organization whose leaders have encouraged violence against whites, Jews and law enforcement officers.


http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/groups/new-black-panther-party

Markle wrote:

PBulldog2 wrote: I am on the Southern Poverty Law Center's mailing list, so it's fairly obvious where I stand on the issue of hate groups.

I didn't know that the number of patriot/militia groups had increased so drastically. That is frightening to me.

Indeed it does, you are a proud member of one.

As you well know, Morris Dees is FAMOUS for his over exaggeration of "hate" groups.  

The "Patriot Movement" goes back a long time.   It got cranked up mainly as a reaction to two events.  Waco.  And Ruby Ridge.  These were perceived by those in the movement as the federal government out of control and becoming an enemy to the citizenry.
After those events,  the movement grew,  mainly on AM talk radio with the programs produced by Chuck Harder and Bo Gritz and others.
It culminated in 1995 with the bombing of the federal building in Oklahoma City.  Timothy McVeigh had become obsessed with the "Patriot Movement".
{note:  teo and Alex Jones and others will tell you the government itself blew the OKC federal building and pinned it on McVeigh and his accomplice Terry Nichols in attempt to discredit the Patriot Movement}

The movement got a lot of scrutiny after the OKC bombing and went back into the woodwork.  

It re-emerged five years later following the 9/11 attacks.  But it doesn't often refer to itself now as the "Patriot Movement".  It's morphed into the "9/11 Truth Movement".  But that is comprised of many who were in the Patriot Movement before 9/11.  And they all see the federal government as their arch enemy,  same as the "Patriots".
Except now with the Truther movement,  they've added the concept of a "New World Order" (aka Illuminatti) which is the secret cabal of international bankers who control all world governments including ours.

PACEDOG#1 wrote:PACEDOG#1 wrote:
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So why is it far right wing? There aren't any far left wing hate groups? Does the New BLack Panthers ring a bell? Should I go on? Is Dees tracking them as well?
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Yep.
by Chrissy Today at 6:42 pm
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Hey, I don't know how you messed up your quote there, but that IS NOT my "yep". its PB's.

just want to be clear on that.

The term "New World Order" was first used by Woodrow Wilson and Winston Churchill. They were using the term as a catch phrase to promote the idea of a collective of nations which they perceived would help deal with the world's conflicts and problems but emphasized that individual nations would still retain all the rights of self-determination. This in part led to the establishment of the UN.

Fast forward to 1990. In his State of the Union address that year, George H.W. Bush called for the creation of a "new world order . . . in which nations recognize the shared responsibility for freedom and justice."

The following year, Pat Robertson published his book entitled "New World Order".
That book outlined a theory in which Wall Street, the Federal Reserve System, Council on Foreign Relations, Bilderberg Group, and Trilateral Commission were leading us all in the direction of world government for the Antichrist.

The "New World Order" threat is embraced by both government hate groups which are politically oriented, and by fundamentalist Christians who see it as the precursor to the "end times".
And it has gradually evolved into both a political and a religious phenomena.

Alex Jones espouses both fundamentalist Christianity and hatred of government.
And now we have a local voice for this too in the form of Rev Carl Gallups, who wears two hats, one the pastor of a Milton Baptist Church, and the other a media personality. Over the course of the last few weeks, Gallups has now started to use Alex Jones as a source. Something he would have never done until recently.

Actually I believe it was Hitler said it first but he said it in German.....neue Weltordnung

TEOTWAWKI wrote:Actually I believe it was Hitler said it first but he said it in German.....neue Weltordnung

Yes Hitler used the term too in 1928...

"National Socialism will use its own revolution for the establishing of a new world order"

The fact that so many different political personalities used the term is good evidence of what a meaningless rhetorical phrase it is.

Mr Ichi wrote:

Markle wrote:

PBulldog2 wrote: I am on the Southern Poverty Law Center's mailing list, so it's fairly obvious where I stand on the issue of hate groups.

I didn't know that the number of patriot/militia groups had increased so drastically. That is frightening to me.

Indeed it does, you are a proud member of one.

As you well know, Morris Dees is FAMOUS for his over exaggeration of "hate" groups.  

Correct.. It is how he makes his money and passes disinformation

I disagree about Morris Dees' exaggeration of the dangers any hate groups can cause.

And Markle - did you just call me a proud member of a hate group? I will not allow that to stand unchallenged.

Chrissy wrote:

PBulldog2 wrote:

PACEDOG#1 wrote:So why is it far right wing? There aren't any far left wing hate groups? Does the New BLack Panthers ring a bell? Should I go on? Is Dees tracking them as well?

Yep.

PB, let me ask you again.

Do you or do you not agree with seaoat in his assessment of Teo?

I was writing about the influence far right extremist hate groups have on the citizens in our country. I did not get involved in the Nazi schtick, since "Nazi", to me, refers the German Nazis who were war criminals.

All I will say is I loathe hate groups of any kind, and I will challenge them whenever and wherever I find them. Think KKK and civil rights!

I fear if the far right extremist hate groups have their way, our country will be torn to shreds.

Yes - we have the right to say what we say, and I respect that. Do remember, however, that is against the law to yell "fire" in a movie theater.....and isn't our world just a huge theater or sorts?

Bob wrote:

TEOTWAWKI wrote:Actually I believe it was Hitler said it first but he said it in German.....neue Weltordnung

Yes Hitler used the term too in 1928...

"National Socialism will use its own revolution for the establishing of a new world order"

The fact that so many different political personalities used the term is good evidence of what a meaningless rhetorical phrase it is.

On the contrary, it's been a dream of all elites to rule the world. I mean what could be more fun than Hunger Games ?...Making those beneath you fight to the death ?Having the power of a god..like Obama<--I threw that in for Knothead...LOL.