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EASILY the sleaziest Politician in Washington. Democrat Alan Grayson Breaks NEW LOWS...if that's possible for him....

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Markle

Markle

EASILY the sleaziest Politician in Washington.  Alan Grayson Breaks NEW LOWS...if that's possible for him....

Congressman Alan Grayson (D-Fla.) in a statement provided to TheBlaze Tuesday defended a campaign email linking the Tea Party to the Ku Klux Klan.

“Regarding the image that the campaign circulated, members of the Tea Party have engaged in relentless racist attacks against our African-American President,” the statement reads.

“For example, when the President visited my home of Orlando, Tea Party protesters shouted ‘Kenyan Go Home.’ Other examples include Tea Party chants of ‘Bye Bye, Blackbird,’ and Tea Party posters saying ‘Obama’s Plan: White Slavery,’ ‘Imam Obama Wants to Ban Pork’ and ‘The Zoo Has An African Lion, and the White House Has a Lyin’ African,’” the statement adds.

The congressman’s office did not immediately respond to requests for documented examples of Tea Party leaders leading these chants. His office did, however, accuse the Tea Party of circulating images including the following:

EASILY the sleaziest Politician in Washington. Democrat Alan Grayson Breaks NEW LOWS...if that's possible for him.... GraysonTeaParty

Easily of the sleaziest of sleaze balls Alan Grayson an even bigger a$$hole than he portends to be holier than though.



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Guest


Guest

that guy is such a douche bag on so many levels. nothing surprises me because his followers are also douche bags.

cool1

cool1

Rolling Eyes 

Sal

Sal

Truth stings a bit, eh?

Good.

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

Sal wrote:Truth stings a bit, eh?

Good.
Considering the Klan was an invention of the Democratic southerners, you should be the one stinging, making up lies and race baiting 24/7.

Sal

Sal

If the teatards don't want to be compared to the KKK, they should stop waving the confederate flag in front of Sasha and Malia's house.

Guest


Guest

TEOTWAWKI wrote:
Sal wrote:Truth stings a bit, eh?

Good.
Considering the Klan was an invention of the Democratic southerners, you should be the one stinging, making up lies and race baiting 24/7.
If the shoe fits,Teo you need to wear it.

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

The Tea Party is no more popular than the Klan?

Now that is funny......

http://www.best-electric-barbecue-grills.com

Sal

Sal

Dreamsglore wrote:
If the shoe fits,Teo you need to wear it.
Or, as Rep. Grayson replied to the faux outrage, "If the hood fits, wear it.".

BOOM!! ...

goes the dynamite.

lol

2seaoat



The tea Party is a strange blend of fascism, dixiecrats, and honest people who want legitimate reductions in government. The Fascist have cleverly channeled the party in their direction and want government destroyed. The Dixiecrats are based in the KKK ideology, and certainly want the black man in society returned to a lesser status than free and equal. This strain has always existed and as correctly identified used to exist in the Democratic Party until the same was integrated after WWII and the migration of Dixiecrats to the Republican Party has resulted in Grayson accurately describing MANY, but not all party members.

polecat

polecat

I want to just take a moment to thank the Teabaggers. Thank you so much for helping us pass health care [and] for resurrecting the Obama presidency. I know they're saying, 'Why are you thanking me? I was so against it---I marched on Washington with tea bags hanging off my Founding Fathers costume with a gun on my hip and a picture of Obama dressed as Hitler, screaming about his birth certificate.' And America saw that and said, 'I think I'll go with the calm black man.'" Bill Maher

Guest


Guest

2seaoat wrote:The tea Party is a strange blend of fascism, dixiecrats, and honest people who want legitimate reductions in government. The Fascist have cleverly channeled the party in their direction and want government destroyed. The Dixiecrats are based in the KKK ideology, and certainly want the black man in society returned to a lesser status than free and equal. This strain has always existed and as correctly identified used to exist in the Democratic Party until the same was integrated after WWII and the migration of Dixiecrats to the Republican Party has resulted in Grayson accurately describing MANY, but not all party members.
You should know more about the terms and history you throw against the wall. The progressives admired fascism in the early thirties... and the nazis directly borrowed from the progressive movement... and finally the progressives were almost exclusive to the democrats during those decades. At least try to be intellectually honest and stop parroting leftist revision.

http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/Fascism.html

Sal

Sal

2seaoat wrote:The tea Party is a strange blend of fascism, dixiecrats, and honest people who want legitimate reductions in government.

Who were only spurred into action by the appearance of a black man in the Oval Office ...

... so, yeah ...

... dixiecrats.

2seaoat



You should know more about the terms and history you throw against the wall. The progressives admired fascism in the early thirties...

I feel like I am talking to my five year old granddaughter when discussing political nomenclature and history with you. The fascist in Germany were a seed group of xenophobic fanatics who opposed democracy, and wanted to destroy the same. They vehemently fought trade unionism and socialism and democratically elected officials who attempted to implement laws and policies which achieved the same. They used propaganda techniques to blame minorities within society for the social ills of that society, and once gaining some power within government repeatedly attempted to destroy government and implement a dictatorship where their far right policies could be implemented. After repeated failed attempts they took over the government and created a fascist state in 1933.

Ted Cruz is a fascist. If you conceptually cannot get your head around it, then please reread history because your conceptual gaps in understanding the same are immense. There is utterly no connection between trade unionism and progressive movements seeking to bring equality and fascism. None, except in the flawed minds of D students who said the dog chewed up their homework.

Guest


Guest

You won't examine their words or the unadulterated results... it requires special simplicity to parrot revision.

http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/40399575?uid=3739256&uid=2460338655&uid=2460338415&uid=2129&uid=2&uid=70&uid=4&uid=83&uid=63&sid=21102811492167

2seaoat



There is no revisionism and like Mr. Markle you post some link without the courage to respond to my very specific rebuttal of your absurd proposition that progressives were fascist. You simply lack the real time capability to carry on an intelligent discussion when it deals with political nomenclature. Sorry, I will be brutally honest because your track record is established and it is fatally flawed with illogical and twisted logic which no link can undo.

Guest


Guest

I can put liberal fascism right under your nose... and you would refuse to breathe before you would learn. Even from the words of the people intimately examining the events as they occurred and the indisputable facts of history. I can't learn for you.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2012/05/20/books/review/the-tyranny-of-cliches-by-jonah-goldberg.html?gl=us&client=ms-android-verizon&source=android-browser-type&action=devloc&q=progressives%20admiring%20fascism%20quotes

Jonah Goldberg’s first book was called “Liberal Fascism.” It was a screed, of course, but a clever one. He argued that liberals who routinely denounce extreme conservatives as fascists should take a look in their own backyard, and he wasn’t fooling around: “It is my argument that American liberalism is a totalitarian political religion.” Goldberg has read around a bit, and he was able to lace his thesis with embarrassing quotations from progressives past who expressed admiration for Italian Fascism, eugenics and other assorted statist atrocities. But his essential point was a simple one: fascists believe in state control of almost everything, and so do liberals.



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knothead

knothead

2seaoat wrote:There is no revisionism and like Mr. Markle you post some link without the courage to respond to my very specific rebuttal of your absurd proposition that progressives were fascist.   You simply lack the real time capability to carry on an intelligent discussion when it deals with political nomenclature.   Sorry, I will be brutally honest because your track record is established and it is fatally flawed with illogical and twisted logic which no link can undo.

CHECKMATE Mr. Oats . . . . .

Guest


Guest

There are tons of other quotes by noted progressives admiring fascism... like shaw, wells, sanger... etc. I've posted them before... do you close your eyes and tell lalalalala? Here are some about hitler specifically. It must be nice to be clueless... enjoy.

Andre Gide; “He is a genuine genius, even those who oppose him must admire him.

Arnold Toynbee; “He is surely a man of peace. Everyone can see that.”

James Blanton, the president of Hunter College at the time said; “He is destined to go down in history as one of our greatest reformers.”

The president of Columbia college in New York City said; ” He has a clear economic plan that should prove to be the model for progressive reform around the world.”

The New York Times said;”At last a leader with courage who can move the world toward progressive reform in a sane and sensible fashion. Surely his enemies will be shamed in the future and surely even the oppressed masses of the world will look to him as their liberator. ”

Sal

Sal

PkrBum wrote:I can put liberal fascism right under your nose... and you would refuse to breathe before you would learn. Even from the words of the people intimately examining the events as they occurred and the indisputable facts of history. I can't learn for you.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2012/05/20/books/review/the-tyranny-of-cliches-by-jonah-goldberg.html?gl=us&client=ms-android-verizon&source=android-browser-type&action=devloc&q=progressives%20admiring%20fascism%20quotes

Jonah Goldberg’s first book was called “Liberal Fascism.” It was a screed, of course, but a clever one. He argued that liberals who routinely denounce extreme conservatives as fascists should take a look in their own backyard, and he wasn’t fooling around: “It is my argument that American liberalism is a totalitarian political religion.” Goldberg has read around a bit, and he was able to lace his thesis with embarrassing quotations from progressives past who expressed admiration for Italian Fascism, eugenics and other assorted statist atrocities. But his essential point was a simple one: fascists believe in state control of almost everything, and so do liberals.
Jonah Goldberg??

Really???

You've brought a pillow to a machine gun fight.

rotflmao

2seaoat



PKR is probably one of the smartest posters on this forum, but for some reason he has a learning disability when discussing political nomenclature and tries to explain the exception as the rule and creates a political paradigm which only exists in his mind and those who subscribe to Orwellian Doublethink.

Guest


Guest

Then read the quotes and contemporary accounts like Dodd. You can't scrub those accounts... you can only ignore them.

2seaoat



Then read the quotes and contemporary accounts like Dodd. You can't scrub those accounts... you can only ignore them.


I do not have to read any quotes. At 24 I was applying to 30 universities to teach the very subject we are discussing. I would call this discussion simply a pedestrian attempt by a student to impress the teacher with creative approach to history, but your continued flawed use of terms and context simply is sophomoric and beneath your normal responses on issues.
If I seem more arrogant and unpleasant than normal, it is because it is exactly like my repairing my T-190 bobcat last weekend. My hydraulic was not engaging when I started the machine. I had thought it was an electronic sensor which needed to be replaced, but instead it was an idler spring on my drive belt which kept the belt tight and allowed the engine to drive my hydraulic. I simply took a long steel pry bar, and first loosened the bolt which controlled the vertical location of the idler bearing and I tightened it with the pry bar and then tightened the bolt. The machine started without error codes and I had the best power I have had in years. Now, if somebody started talking to me about understanding the problem with the hydraulic by stating that the rubber tracks control the hydraulic and that I need to open the grease zert on the track system and tighten the rubber tracks to engage the hydraulic.....I would call the person a fricking idiot, but yet when we talk about the mechanics of a machine the idiocy of nomenclature and how a machine works become obvious, yet any idiot can try to understand the nomenclature of government and political systems and try to describe the same.....and like noses.....everybody has an opinion.......please engage in intelligent conversation when using political nomenclature or please do not use the same.

boards of FL

boards of FL

Markle wrote:EASILEST the sleaziest Politician in Washington.  Alan Grayson Breaks NEW LOWS...if that's possible for him....

Congressman Alan Grayson (D-Fla.) in a statement provided to TheBlaze Tuesday defended a campaign email linking the Tea Party to the Ku Klux Klan.

“Regarding the image that the campaign circulated, members of the Tea Party have engaged in relentless racist attacks against our African-American President,” the statement reads.

“For example, when the President visited my home of Orlando, Tea Party protesters shouted ‘Kenyan Go Home.’ Other examples include Tea Party chants of ‘Bye Bye, Blackbird,’ and Tea Party posters saying ‘Obama’s Plan: White Slavery,’ ‘Imam Obama Wants to Ban Pork’ and ‘The Zoo Has An African Lion, and the White House Has a Lyin’ African,’” the statement adds.

The congressman’s office did not immediately respond to requests for documented examples of Tea Party leaders leading these chants. His office did, however, accuse the Tea Party of circulating images including the following:

EASILY the sleaziest Politician in Washington. Democrat Alan Grayson Breaks NEW LOWS...if that's possible for him.... GraysonTeaParty

Easily of the sleaziest of sleaze balls Alan Grayson an even bigger a$$hole than he portends to be holier than though.

You're sort of like the same thing as Alan Grayson, with the only difference being the fact that you pull for a different party.

Well, I guess there is that and then Alan Grayson probably writes his own material.


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Guess who said these things:

“There is more that binds us to Bolshevism than separates us from it. There is, above all, genuine, revolutionary feeling, which is alive everywhere in Russia except where there are Jewish Marxists. I have always made allowance for this circumstance, and given orders that former Communists are to be admitted to the party at once. The petit bourgeois Social-Democrat and the trade-union boss will never make a National Socialist, but the Communists always will.”


“Of what importance is all that, if I range men firmly within a discipline they cannot escape? Let them own land or factories as much as they please. The decisive factor is that the State, through the Party, is supreme over them regardless of whether they are owners or workers. All that is unessential; our socialism goes far deeper. It establishes a relationship of the individual to the State, the national community. Why need we trouble to socialize banks and factories? We socialize human beings.”

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