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Ten years and thousands of American lives and trillions of American dollars and this is what it accomplished.

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Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

Iraq is now no different than it was before the thousands of american lives and the trillions of american dollars were wasted...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/23/iraq-bombings_n_1693895.html

Slicef18

Slicef18

ButtMan wrote:Iraq is now no different than it was before the thousands of american lives and the trillions of american dollars were wasted...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/23/iraq-bombings_n_1693895.html


I don't agree Iraq s no different than it was before the thousands of american lives and the trillions of american dollars were wasted.

Whether one likes Saddam's iron fist rule or not, the nation had one voice, that of Saddam. Iraq has now fallen back into it's ancient tribalistic infighting.
We have set Iraq back one hundred years, and it will stay that way until another Saddam comes to power.
The American people have much better access to information than when our Constitution was formed. I think the authority to go to war should be taken from Congress and given to the people. Let the decision to go to war be made by the people who will be going to fight the war.

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

Slicef18 wrote:
ButtMan wrote:Iraq is now no different than it was before the thousands of american lives and the trillions of american dollars were wasted...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/23/iraq-bombings_n_1693895.html


I don't agree Iraq s no different than it was before the thousands of american lives and the trillions of american dollars were wasted.

Whether one likes Saddam's iron fist rule or not, the nation had one voice, that of Saddam. Iraq has now fallen back into it's ancient tribalistic infighting.
We have set Iraq back one hundred years, and it will stay that way until another Saddam comes to power.
The American people have much better access to information than when our Constitution was formed. I think the authority to go to war should be taken from Congress and given to the people. Let the decision to go to war be made by the people who will be going to fight the war.

Finally something we completely agree on....

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

Slicef18 wrote:


I don't agree Iraq s no different than it was before the thousands of american lives and the trillions of american dollars were wasted.

Whether one likes Saddam's iron fist rule or not, the nation had one voice, that of Saddam. Iraq has now fallen back into it's ancient tribalistic infighting.
We have set Iraq back one hundred years, and it will stay that way until another Saddam comes to power.
The American people have much better access to information than when our Constitution was formed. I think the authority to go to war should be taken from Congress and given to the people. Let the decision to go to war be made by the people who will be going to fight the war.
No argument.

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

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Guest

ButtMan wrote:Iraq is now no different than it was before the thousands of american lives and the trillions of american dollars were wasted...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/23/iraq-bombings_n_1693895.html

Profits are being made and the taxpayers are being robbed blind.

Yella

Yella

Well, obviously the CEOs of the Corporate War Machinery have done very, I suppose Cheney has made untold billions himself. A few thousand others received a good bit of money through the "trickle down".
Nearly 5000 dead and 50,000 wounded is nothing to the Military-Industrial-Complex.

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Markle

Markle

The Act of War on September 11, 2001 cost the lives of 3,000 innocent men, women and children PLUS $2 TRILLION; PLUS untold costs World Wide. The War on Terror, since it began in 2001 has cost us $1.3 Trillion PLUS the lives of 4,500 of our finest heroes. That is less treasure than what President Barack Hussein Obama has plunged us deeper in debt, EACH YEAR. The frequency and intensity of fatal Islamic terrorist attacks had been increasing since the administration of President Jimmy Carter culminating with the attack on 9/11.

Since the War on Terror began, until six months into the administration of President Barack Hussein Obama. We had NO fatal Islamic Terrorist Attacks on our soil. We then had two fatal Islamic terrorist attacks on our soil before he changed his doctrine and accepted that of President George Walker Bush. Since then we have not had any fatal Islamic terrorist attacks on our soil.

How many more 9/11 attacks should we have absorbed before we fought back? One more? Three? Five? Should we have endured them patiently while believing that eventually they would stop? How many?

Keep in mind that one of the few enumerated duties of the President in our Constitution is to protect our citizens. You can hate President George Walker Bush as much as you like but he fulfilled that responsibility after the 9/11 attack. President Obama had two fatal Islamic terrorist attacks on our soil before he changed his doctrine and accepted that of President George Walker Bush. Since then we have not had any fatal Islamic terrorist attacks on our soil.

So tell us, how many more attacks?

Guest


Guest

Markle wrote:The Act of War on September 11, 2001 cost the lives of 3,000 innocent men, women and children PLUS $2 TRILLION; PLUS untold costs World Wide. The War on Terror, since it began in 2001 has cost us $1.3 Trillion PLUS the lives of 4,500 of our finest heroes. That is less treasure than what President Barack Hussein Obama has plunged us deeper in debt, EACH YEAR. The frequency and intensity of fatal Islamic terrorist attacks had been increasing since the administration of President Jimmy Carter culminating with the attack on 9/11.

Since the War on Terror began, until six months into the administration of President Barack Hussein Obama. We had NO fatal Islamic Terrorist Attacks on our soil. We then had two fatal Islamic terrorist attacks on our soil before he changed his doctrine and accepted that of President George Walker Bush. Since then we have not had any fatal Islamic terrorist attacks on our soil.

How many more 9/11 attacks should we have absorbed before we fought back? One more? Three? Five? Should we have endured them patiently while believing that eventually they would stop? How many?

Keep in mind that one of the few enumerated duties of the President in our Constitution is to protect our citizens. You can hate President George Walker Bush as much as you like but he fulfilled that responsibility after the 9/11 attack. President Obama had two fatal Islamic terrorist attacks on our soil before he changed his doctrine and accepted that of President George Walker Bush. Since then we have not had any fatal Islamic terrorist attacks on our soil.

So tell us, how many more attacks?
iraq didn't have a Damn thing to do with 9/11.
they were saudi arabians.
Why didn't we attack and occupy them?

Markle

Markle

Lurch wrote:
Markle wrote:The Act of War on September 11, 2001 cost the lives of 3,000 innocent men, women and children PLUS $2 TRILLION; PLUS untold costs World Wide. The War on Terror, since it began in 2001 has cost us $1.3 Trillion PLUS the lives of 4,500 of our finest heroes. That is less treasure than what President Barack Hussein Obama has plunged us deeper in debt, EACH YEAR. The frequency and intensity of fatal Islamic terrorist attacks had been increasing since the administration of President Jimmy Carter culminating with the attack on 9/11.

Since the War on Terror began, until six months into the administration of President Barack Hussein Obama. We had NO fatal Islamic Terrorist Attacks on our soil. We then had two fatal Islamic terrorist attacks on our soil before he changed his doctrine and accepted that of President George Walker Bush. Since then we have not had any fatal Islamic terrorist attacks on our soil.

How many more 9/11 attacks should we have absorbed before we fought back? One more? Three? Five? Should we have endured them patiently while believing that eventually they would stop? How many?

Keep in mind that one of the few enumerated duties of the President in our Constitution is to protect our citizens. You can hate President George Walker Bush as much as you like but he fulfilled that responsibility after the 9/11 attack. President Obama had two fatal Islamic terrorist attacks on our soil before he changed his doctrine and accepted that of President George Walker Bush. Since then we have not had any fatal Islamic terrorist attacks on our soil.

So tell us, how many more attacks?
iraq didn't have a Damn thing to do with 9/11.
they were saudi arabians.
Why didn't we attack and occupy them?

I take it you didn't know. There were not dozens of United Nations Resolutions aginst Saudi Arabia.

Perhaps you also did not notice, after the Invasion of Iraq, we had no further fatal Islamic Terrorist attacks on our soil until six months into the administration of President Barack Hussein Obama.

So regardless of whether you think it was right or wrong to invade Iraq, we were not attacked.

So please share with us, how many more fatal Islamic Terrorist attacks of war should we have absorbed?

Slicef18

Slicef18

Markle wrote:
Lurch wrote:
Markle wrote:The Act of War on September 11, 2001 cost the lives of 3,000 innocent men, women and children PLUS $2 TRILLION; PLUS untold costs World Wide. The War on Terror, since it began in 2001 has cost us $1.3 Trillion PLUS the lives of 4,500 of our finest heroes. That is less treasure than what President Barack Hussein Obama has plunged us deeper in debt, EACH YEAR. The frequency and intensity of fatal Islamic terrorist attacks had been increasing since the administration of President Jimmy Carter culminating with the attack on 9/11.

Since the War on Terror began, until six months into the administration of President Barack Hussein Obama. We had NO fatal Islamic Terrorist Attacks on our soil. We then had two fatal Islamic terrorist attacks on our soil before he changed his doctrine and accepted that of President George Walker Bush. Since then we have not had any fatal Islamic terrorist attacks on our soil.

How many more 9/11 attacks should we have absorbed before we fought back? One more? Three? Five? Should we have endured them patiently while believing that eventually they would stop? How many?

Keep in mind that one of the few enumerated duties of the President in our Constitution is to protect our citizens. You can hate President George Walker Bush as much as you like but he fulfilled that responsibility after the 9/11 attack. President Obama had two fatal Islamic terrorist attacks on our soil before he changed his doctrine and accepted that of President George Walker Bush. Since then we have not had any fatal Islamic terrorist attacks on our soil.

So tell us, how many more attacks?
iraq didn't have a Damn thing to do with 9/11.
they were saudi arabians.
Why didn't we attack and occupy them?

I take it you didn't know. There were not dozens of United Nations Resolutions aginst Saudi Arabia.

Perhaps you also did not notice, after the Invasion of Iraq, we had no further fatal Islamic Terrorist attacks on our soil until six months into the administration of President Barack Hussein Obama.

So regardless of whether you think it was right or wrong to invade Iraq, we were not attacked.

So please share with us, how many more fatal Islamic Terrorist attacks of war should we have absorbed?

************************************************************


Markle, you have posted this or some variant so many times it's become a threadbare bore. Fact is, given our policies in the mid-east, there has been and will be more attacks. I should also point out Markles definition of "fatal Islamic Terrorist attacks" is different than the U. S. Government. So Markle's post is nothing more than a "gotcha" game post. Ya see, there is no correct answer for Markle. Say what you will, Markle has a very clever and imaginative mind.

Sept. 11, New York City, Arlington, Va., and Shanksville, Pa.: hijackers crashed 2 commercial jets into twin towers of World Trade Center; 2 more hijacked jets were crashed into the Pentagon and a field in rural Pa. Total dead and missing numbered 2,9921: 2,749 in New York City, 184 at the Pentagon, 40 in Pa., and 19 hijackers. Islamic al-Qaeda terrorist group blamed. (See September 11, 2001: Timeline of Terrorism.)

2002
June 14, Karachi, Pakistan: bomb explodes outside American consulate in Karachi, Pakistan, killing 12. Linked to al-Qaeda.

2003 1
May 12, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: suicide bombers kill 34, including 8 Americans, at housing compounds for Westerners. Al-Qaeda suspected.

2004
May 29–31, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: terrorists attack the offices of a Saudi oil company in Khobar, Saudi Arabia, take foreign oil workers hostage in a nearby residential compound, leaving 22 people dead including one American.
June 11–19, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: terrorists kidnap and execute Paul Johnson Jr., an American, in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. 2 other Americans and BBC cameraman killed by gun attacks.
Dec. 6, Jeddah, Saudi Arabia: terrorists storm the U.S. consulate, killing 5 consulate employees. 4 terrorists were killed by Saudi security.

2005
Nov. 9, Amman, Jordan: suicide bombers hit 3 American hotels, Radisson, Grand Hyatt, and Days Inn, in Amman, Jordan, killing 57. Al-Qaeda claimed responsibility.

2006
Sept. 13, Damascus, Syria: an attack by four gunman on the American embassy is foiled.

2007
Jan. 12, Athens, Greece: the U.S. embassy is fired on by an anti-tank missile causing damage but no injuries.
Dec. 11, Algeria: more than 60 people are killed, including 11 United Nations staff members, when Al Qaeda terrorists detonate two car bombs near Algeria's Constitutional Council and the United Nations offices.
2008
May 26, Iraq: a suicide bomber on a motorcycle kills six U.S. soldiers and wounds 18 others in Tarmiya.
June 24, Iraq: a suicide bomber kills at least 20 people, including three U.S. Marines, at a meeting between sheiks and Americans in Karmah, a town west of Baghdad.
June 12, Afghanistan: four American servicemen are killed when a roadside bomb explodes near a U.S. military vehicle in Farah Province.
July 13, Afghanistan: nine U.S.soldiers and at least 15 NATO troops die when Taliban militants boldly attack an American base in Kunar Province, which borders Pakistan. It's the most deadly against U.S. troops in three years.
Aug. 18 and 19, Afghanistan: as many as 15 suicide bombers backed by about 30 militants attack a U.S. military base, Camp Salerno, in Bamiyan. Fighting between U.S. troops and members of the Taliban rages overnight. No U.S. troops are killed.
Sept. 16, Yemen: a car bomb and a rocket strike the U.S. embassy in Yemen as staff arrived to work, killing 16 people, including 4 civilians. At least 25 suspected al-Qaeda militants are arrested for the attack.
Nov. 26, India: in a series of attacks on several of Mumbai's landmarks and commercial hubs that are popular with Americans and other foreign tourists, including at least two five-star hotels, a hospital, a train station, and a cinema. About 300 people are wounded and nearly 190 people die, including at least 5 Americans.
2009
Feb. 9, Iraq: a suicide bomber kills four American soldiers and their Iraqi translator near a police checkpoint.
April 10, Iraq: a suicide attack kills five American soldiers and two Iraqi policemen.
June 1, Little Rock, Arkansas: Abdulhakim Muhammed, a Muslim convert from Memphis, Tennessee, is charged with shooting two soldiers outside a military recruiting center. One is killed and the other is wounded. In a January 2010 letter to the judge hearing his case, Muhammed asked to change his plea from not guilty to guilty, claimed ties to al-Qaeda, and called the shooting a jihadi attack "to fight those who wage war on Islam and Muslims."
Dec. 25: A Nigerian man on a flight from Amsterdam to Detroit attempted to ignite an explosive device hidden in his underwear. The explosive device that failed to detonate was a mixture of powder and liquid that did not alert security personnel in the airport. The alleged bomber, Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, told officials later that he was directed by the terrorist group Al Qaeda. The suspect was already on the government's watch list when he attempted the bombing; his father, a respected Nigerian banker, had told the U.S. government that he was worried about his son's increased extremism.
Dec. 30, Iraq: a suicide bomber kills eight Americans civilians, seven of them CIA agents, at a base in Afghanistan. It's the deadliest attack on the agency since 9/11. The attacker is reportedly a double agent from Jordan who was acting on behalf of al-Qaeda.
2010
May 1, New York City: a car bomb is discovered in Times Square, New York City after smoke is seen coming from a vehicle. The bomb was ignited, but failed to detonate and was disarmed before it could cause any harm. Times Square was evacuated as a safety precaution. Faisal Shahzad pleads guilty to placing the bomb as well as 10 terrorism and weapons charges.
May 10, Jacksonville, Florida: a pipe bomb explodes while approximately 60 Muslims are praying in the mosque. The attack causes no injuries.
Oct. 29: two packages are found on separate cargo planes. Each package contains a bomb consisting of 300 to 400 grams (11-14 oz) of plastic explosives and a detonating mechanism. The bombs are discovered as a result of intelligence received from Saudi Arabia's security chief. The packages, bound from Yemen to the United States, are discovered at en route stop-overs, one in England and one in Dubai in the United Arab Emirates.
2011
Jan. 17, Spokane, Washington: a pipe bomb is discovered along the route of the Martin Luther King, Jr. memorial march. The bomb, a "viable device" set up to spray marchers with shrapnel and to cause multiple casualties, is defused without any injuries.


Read more: Terrorist Attacks in the U.S. or Against Americans — Infoplease.com http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0001454.html#ixzz21iFF7T7z

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

merkle,

What permitted the attack on 9-11-01 is pretty simliar to what permitted the attack on 12-7-41. In each case the country had let it's guard down.
And the reason there have been no further attacks on our mainland following 9-11-01 is for the same reason there were no attacks on our mainland following 12-7-41. It's because the attackers have not been able to penetrate the defenses we put in place following each event.
A lot of us bitch about it but the airport screenings are not only keeping innocent old ladies and children from hijacking airliners or boarding airliner with bombs. They're also ensuring that terrorists don't do it either.
That's the reason it has not repeated. Not because of who the president was or is.

But our occupation of the middle eastern countries has not helped matters. All it's done is stir up more and more anti-Americanism. And made more islamic extremists want to work harder to pull off another 9-11. And one day all those defenses we have put in place may not be enough to prevent it because of that.

Guest


Guest

ButtMan wrote:Iraq is now no different than it was before the thousands of american lives and the trillions of american dollars were wasted...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/23/iraq-bombings_n_1693895.html


sure it is, we just need to go into the other side of iraq, its called syria. havnt you heard?

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

ButtMan wrote:merkle,

What permitted the attack on 9-11-01 is pretty simliar to what permitted the attack on 12-7-41. In each case the country had let it's guard down.
And the reason there have been no further attacks on our mainland following 9-11-01 is for the same reason there were no attacks on our mainland following 12-7-41. It's because the attackers have not been able to penetrate the defenses we put in place following each event.
A lot of us bitch about it but the airport screenings are not only keeping innocent old ladies and children from hijacking airliners or boarding airliner with bombs. They're also ensuring that terrorists don't do it either.
That's the reason it has not repeated. Not because of who the president was or is.

But our occupation of the middle eastern countries has not helped matters. All it's done is stir up more and more anti-Americanism. And made more islamic extremists want to work harder to pull off another 9-11. And one day all those defenses we have put in place may not be enough to prevent it because of that.



The same folks that did 911 did Aurora....so they are still at it.

Guest


Guest

http://www.axiomatica.org/revealing-the-matrix/military-industrial-complex

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

Slicef18 wrote:
Markle wrote:
Lurch wrote:
Markle wrote:The Act of War on September 11, 2001 cost the lives of 3,000 innocent men, women and children PLUS $2 TRILLION; PLUS untold costs World Wide. The War on Terror, since it began in 2001 has cost us $1.3 Trillion PLUS the lives of 4,500 of our finest heroes. That is less treasure than what President Barack Hussein Obama has plunged us deeper in debt, EACH YEAR. The frequency and intensity of fatal Islamic terrorist attacks had been increasing since the administration of President Jimmy Carter culminating with the attack on 9/11.

Since the War on Terror began, until six months into the administration of President Barack Hussein Obama. We had NO fatal Islamic Terrorist Attacks on our soil. We then had two fatal Islamic terrorist attacks on our soil before he changed his doctrine and accepted that of President George Walker Bush. Since then we have not had any fatal Islamic terrorist attacks on our soil.

How many more 9/11 attacks should we have absorbed before we fought back? One more? Three? Five? Should we have endured them patiently while believing that eventually they would stop? How many?

Keep in mind that one of the few enumerated duties of the President in our Constitution is to protect our citizens. You can hate President George Walker Bush as much as you like but he fulfilled that responsibility after the 9/11 attack. President Obama had two fatal Islamic terrorist attacks on our soil before he changed his doctrine and accepted that of President George Walker Bush. Since then we have not had any fatal Islamic terrorist attacks on our soil.

So tell us, how many more attacks?
iraq didn't have a Damn thing to do with 9/11.
they were saudi arabians.
Why didn't we attack and occupy them?

I take it you didn't know. There were not dozens of United Nations Resolutions aginst Saudi Arabia.

Perhaps you also did not notice, after the Invasion of Iraq, we had no further fatal Islamic Terrorist attacks on our soil until six months into the administration of President Barack Hussein Obama.

So regardless of whether you think it was right or wrong to invade Iraq, we were not attacked.

So please share with us, how many more fatal Islamic Terrorist attacks of war should we have absorbed?

************************************************************


Markle, you have posted this or some variant so many times it's become a threadbare bore. Fact is, given our policies in the mid-east, there has been and will be more attacks. I should also point out Markles definition of "fatal Islamic Terrorist attacks" is different than the U. S. Government. So Markle's post is nothing more than a "gotcha" game post. Ya see, there is no correct answer for Markle. Say what you will, Markle has a very clever and imaginative mind.

Just face it, Markle is full of shit. There I said it......

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Floridatexan

Floridatexan

Lurch wrote:http://www.axiomatica.org/revealing-the-matrix/military-industrial-complex

Great site.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

Markle wrote:The Act of War on September 11, 2001 cost the lives of 3,000 innocent men, women and children PLUS $2 TRILLION; PLUS untold costs World Wide. The War on Terror, since it began in 2001 has cost us $1.3 Trillion PLUS the lives of 4,500 of our finest heroes. That is less treasure than what President Barack Hussein Obama has plunged us deeper in debt, EACH YEAR. The frequency and intensity of fatal Islamic terrorist attacks had been increasing since the administration of President Jimmy Carter culminating with the attack on 9/11.

Since the War on Terror began, until six months into the administration of President Barack Hussein Obama. We had NO fatal Islamic Terrorist Attacks on our soil. We then had two fatal Islamic terrorist attacks on our soil before he changed his doctrine and accepted that of President George Walker Bush. Since then we have not had any fatal Islamic terrorist attacks on our soil.

How many more 9/11 attacks should we have absorbed before we fought back? One more? Three? Five? Should we have endured them patiently while believing that eventually they would stop? How many?

Keep in mind that one of the few enumerated duties of the President in our Constitution is to protect our citizens. You can hate President George Walker Bush as much as you like but he fulfilled that responsibility after the 9/11 attack. President Obama had two fatal Islamic terrorist attacks on our soil before he changed his doctrine and accepted that of President George Walker Bush. Since then we have not had any fatal Islamic terrorist attacks on our soil.

So tell us, how many more attacks?

I find it fascinating that each time you mention 9/11, you like to pretend it didn't happen on Bush's watch. Where was Bush et al BEFORE 9/11? Some might say IGNORING the intelligence that might have prevented the attack. I personally don't believe that. I completely believe that Bush et al allowed and was complicit in the attacks on our soil, and they did it: 1)to retain power (Bush's ratings were already plunging), 2)for the money (billions to the MIC, Halliburton, KBR, Blackwater, Carlyle Group, etc.), and 3) because Bush and his family are sadistic SOB's.

Guest


Guest

[quote=" I completely believe that Bush et al allowed and was complicit in the attacks on our soil, and they did it: 1)to retain power (Bush's ratings were already plunging), 2)for the money (billions to the MIC, Halliburton, KBR, Blackwater, Carlyle Group, etc.), and 3) because Bush and his family are sadistic SOB's.

[/quote]

Your belief system is whacked. How about some data on how you reached this conclusion or are you just throwing rocks in the pond again?

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

The 9-11 attack would have happened regardless if Clinton or Bush or Obama or Romney would have been the president at the time.
Just as the attack on Pearl Harbor would have happened regardless which president was office then too.

You people are obsessed with these personalities. All of you.

Sal

Sal

ButtMan wrote:The 9-11 attack would have happened regardless if Clinton or Bush or Obama or Romney would have been the president at the time.
Just as the attack on Pearl Harbor would have happened regardless which president was office then too.

Tru dat. The CIA don't care who's POTUS.

Teo told me so.

Guest


Guest

ButtMan wrote:The 9-11 attack would have happened regardless if Clinton or Bush or Obama or Romney would have been the president at the time.
Just as the attack on Pearl Harbor would have happened regardless which president was office then too.

You people are obsessed with these personalities. All of you.


_____________________________________________
You are exactly right. A determined terrorist who is WILLING to die is virtually impossible to defend against. But folks like FT, with absolutely NO experience in combat or in dealing with a hostile population like those in the Mideast endlessly shriek about how these things could have been avoided. The really sad part is their obsession with conspiracies. According to FT there is a conspiracy behind every Bush. Pun intended.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

nochain wrote:
You are exactly right. A determined terrorist who is WILLING to die is virtually impossible to defend against.
I agree if you're talking about prior to 9/11. But after 9/11 we made it a helluva lot harder to hijack airliners.
And it wasn't Bush or Obama who made that happen. It was a lot of people in the government who aren't celebrities who made that happen.

Sal

Sal

[quote="nochain"]
ButtMan wrote:
You are exactly right. A determined terrorist who is WILLING to die is virtually impossible to defend against.

Tru dat. Some are just better at killing them than others.

Ten years and thousands of American lives and trillions of American dollars and this is what it accomplished. Osama_Sleeps_Fishes

Ten years and thousands of American lives and trillions of American dollars and this is what it accomplished. 0obamaaction002

Guest


Guest

[quote="salinsky"]
nochain wrote:
ButtMan wrote:
You are exactly right. A determined terrorist who is WILLING to die is virtually impossible to defend against.

Tru dat. Some are just better at killing them than others.

Ten years and thousands of American lives and trillions of American dollars and this is what it accomplished. Osama_Sleeps_Fishes

Ten years and thousands of American lives and trillions of American dollars and this is what it accomplished. 0obamaaction002

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How sad. Pity the Seal team that actually did the shooting and the hundreds or thousands of intelligence specialists who tracked the mutt down - and in the end found him with the help of a Pakistani Doctor that the spineless Oblamer allowed to be thrown under the bus and now sits in prison. Thats how Oblamer rolls though. Typical lying narcissist.

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