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The Illuminati were amateurs. TEO?

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Margin Call

Margin Call

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/everything-is-rigged-the-biggest-financial-scandal-yet-20130425

-MATT TAIBBI

"Conspiracy theorists of the world, believers in the hidden hands of the Rothschilds and the Masons and the Illuminati, we skeptics owe you an apology. You were right. The players may be a little different, but your basic premise is correct: The world is a rigged game. We found this out in recent months, when a series of related corruption stories spilled out of the financial sector, suggesting the world's largest banks may be fixing the prices of, well, just about everything."

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"These banks, which already possess enormous power just by virtue of their financial holdings – in the United States, the top six banks, many of them the same names you see on the Libor and ISDAfix panels, own assets equivalent to 60 percent of the nation's GDP – are beginning to realize the awesome possibilities for increased profit and political might that would come with colluding instead of competing. Moreover, it's increasingly clear that both the criminal justice system and the civil courts may be impotent to stop them, even when they do get caught working together to game the system.

If true, that would leave us living in an era of undisguised, real-world conspiracy, in which the prices of currencies, commodities like gold and silver, even interest rates and the value of money itself, can be and may already have been dictated from above. And those who are doing it can get away with it. Forget the Illuminati – this is the real thing, and it's no secret. You can stare right at it, anytime you want."

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

thanks I saw that...one of the kingpins of the vast conspiracy is Rothschild bankers so...not too far away from the general theories of evil money changers ruining life as we know it.

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TEOTWAWKI wrote:thanks I saw that...one of the kingpins of the vast conspiracy is Rothschild bankers so...not too far away from the general theories of evil money changers ruining life as we know it.

Since we live in a global and digital environment, what is your solution/alternative to the evil money changers?

For instance, I need to buy a new car. From raw materials to me holding the key in my driveway, what mechanism makes it happen?

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

Margin Call wrote:
TEOTWAWKI wrote:thanks I saw that...one of the kingpins of the vast conspiracy is Rothschild bankers so...not too far away from the general theories of evil money changers ruining life as we know it.

Since we live in a global and digital environment, what is your solution/alternative to the evil money changers?

For instance, I need to buy a new car. From raw materials to me holding the key in my driveway, what mechanism makes it happen?

Wow great question...Money is the fuel that drives, fuels and greases the machines of commerce. My grandson and I have talks about this stuff all the time. When we are sitting at a restaurant we go in depth at how much labor it took to bring the simplest utensil to our table and effort to grow the diversity of food and bring it to us , It is an amazing process and your question highlights the difficulty of that process at all stages . I might just sit down sometime and run a parts list for a car and what went into bringing all those parts into one place and assembling a safe reliable car.

I do know a very important part of the process is labor. I remember hearing that when the US moved some of it's assembly plants into Mexico it was hard to find enough young labor so the Mexican governments solution was to raise property taxes on subsistence farmers in southern Mexico causing them to lose their farms so that their children had to migrate north to the factories just to live,,,,,I am sure most corporations are not very sensitive to the communities they prey on to keep the costs down. The government was likewise rather complicit in aiding corporate predation. I am sure much of that concept in Mexico extends to waring on a nation to extract their other resources to build your car.....

Guest


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WWJD...?


John 2:15

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Guest

Run the Preds out there they can take care of it all.

Margin Call

Margin Call

TEOTWAWKI wrote:
Margin Call wrote:
TEOTWAWKI wrote:thanks I saw that...one of the kingpins of the vast conspiracy is Rothschild bankers so...not too far away from the general theories of evil money changers ruining life as we know it.

Since we live in a global and digital environment, what is your solution/alternative to the evil money changers?

For instance, I need to buy a new car. From raw materials to me holding the key in my driveway, what mechanism makes it happen?

Wow great question...Money is the fuel that drives, fuels and greases the machines of commerce. My grandson and I have talks about this stuff all the time. When we are sitting at a restaurant we go in depth at how much labor it took to bring the simplest utensil to our table and effort to grow the diversity of food and bring it to us , It is an amazing process and your question highlights the difficulty of that process at all stages . I might just sit down sometime and run a parts list for a car and what went into bringing all those parts into one place and assembling a safe reliable car.

I do know a very important part of the process is labor. I remember hearing that when the US moved some of it's assembly plants into Mexico it was hard to find enough young labor so the Mexican governments solution was to raise property taxes on subsistence farmers in southern Mexico causing them to lose their farms so that their children had to migrate north to the factories just to live,,,,,I am sure most corporations are not very sensitive to the communities they prey on to keep the costs down. The government was likewise rather complicit in aiding corporate predation. I am sure much of that concept in Mexico extends to waring on a nation to extract their other resources to build your car.....

The salient point being that notwithstanding public apathy, corporate ownership of government is the problem. I agree...just look what is happening in the Florida Legislature this session.

knothead

knothead

MC, wouldn't what Matt Tiabbi described as a monopoly (technically)?

Margin Call

Margin Call

knothead wrote:MC, wouldn't what Matt Tiabbi described as a monopoly (technically)?

oligopoly, monopoly, monopsony, fascism

New word: Olimonmonopcism

knothead

knothead

Margin Call wrote:
knothead wrote:MC, wouldn't what Matt Tiabbi described qualify as a monopoly (technically)?

oligopoly, monopoly, monopsony, fascism

New word: Olimonmonopcism

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Me thinks you should submit your new word to Wikipedia . . .

othershoe1030

othershoe1030

Margin Call wrote:
The salient point being that notwithstanding public apathy, corporate ownership of government is the problem. I agree...just look what is happening in the Florida Legislature this session.

This is exactly the problem. gun manufacturers hijacking the vote on background checks by hiding behind the 2nd amendment; fights against universal health care by big pharma and medical equipment companies; corporate welfare in the military sector fighting cutbacks there; pick any issue and there is a corporate interest group fighting against the public interest.

This is what makes me just want to turn the news off. I'm afraid your observation about public apathy is apt because people are either stuck in the daily grind of survival or already overwhelmed by the circumstances of corporate ownership of government.

It was thought that the Tea Party types would go to DC and kick the scoundrels out but they have become tools of the corporations now and are of no help either.

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