Some children get the short straw when their parents choose to have a child........

http://www.pnj.com/article/20130315/NEWS01/130315013/Abused-toddler-dies-hospital


Profoundly sad......not angry.....have no answers because next week there will be a handful more children forsaken in this life........was there nobody who could come to the aid of this child......? We are all human.....we have our failings, but to grab an infant by the neck and toss them like a football........it is uncontrolled children raising children......and this precious child never had a chance........and society could do nothing? There were no warnings that this family had problems? No extended family.......no third parties.....no government.............there has to answers......we cannot have evolved into this dark place where children can be harmed like this.......and now putting people in jail will be the answer.....we are as sick as these parents to tolerate this and not become more involved in the welfare of children as budget cuts hurt the most vulnerable.

2seaoat wrote:http://www.pnj.com/article/20130315/NEWS01/130315013/Abused-toddler-dies-hospital


Profoundly sad......not angry.....have no answers because next week there will be a handful more children forsaken in this life........was there nobody who could come to the aid of this child......? We are all human.....we have our failings, but to grab an infant by the neck and toss them like a football........it is uncontrolled children raising children......and this precious child never had a chance........and society could do nothing? There were no warnings that this family had problems? No extended family.......no third parties.....no government.............there has to answers......we cannot have evolved into this dark place where children can be harmed like this.......and now putting people in jail will be the answer.....we are as sick as these parents to tolerate this and not become more involved in the welfare of children as budget cuts hurt the most vulnerable.

As usual, Progressives attempt to conceal the massive failure of their policies while stating THE PROBLEM IS WE NEED MORE MONEY! They cannot, will not, find solutions because the solutions are the opposite of what their policies and FEELINGS caused.

Dr. Williams hits the nail square on the head. As offensive as that is to Progressives who greatly exacerbated the problems instead of helping.

BY WALTER E. WILLIAMS
RELEASE: WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 26, 2005, AND THEREAFTER

AMMUNITION FOR POVERTY PIMPS

In the wake of Hurricane Katrina's destruction of New Orleans, President Bush gave America's poverty pimps and race hustlers new ammunition. The president said, "As all of us saw on television, there is also some deep, persistent poverty in this region as well. And that poverty has roots in a history of racial discrimination, which cut off generations from the opportunity of America. We have a duty to confront this poverty with bold action."

The president's espousing such a vision not only supplies ammunition to poverty pimps and race hustlers, it focuses attention away from the true connection between race and poverty.

Though I grow weary of pointing it out, let's do it again. Let's examine some numbers readily available from the Census Bureau's 2004 Current Population Survey and ask some questions. There's one segment of the black population that suffers only a 9.9 percent poverty rate, and only 13.7 percent of its under-5-year-olds are poor. There's another segment that suffers a 39.5 percent poverty rate, and 58.1 percent of its under-5-year-olds are poor. Among whites, one segment suffers a 6 percent poverty rate, and only 9.9 percent of its under-5-year-olds are poor. The other segment suffers a 26.4 percent poverty rate, and 52 percent of its under-5-year-olds are poor. What do you think distinguishes the high and low poverty populations among blacks?

Would you buy an explanation that it's because white people practice discrimination against one segment of the black population and not the other or one segment had a history of slavery and not the other? You'd have to be a lunatic to buy such an explanation. The only distinction between both the black and white populations is marriage -- lower poverty in married-couple families.

In 1960, only 28 percent of black females ages 15 to 44 were never married and illegitimacy among blacks was 22 percent. Today, the never-married rate is 56 percent and illegitimacy stands at 70 percent. If today's black family structure were what it was in 1960, the overall black poverty rate would be in or near single digits. The weakening of the black family structure, and its devastating consequences, have nothing to do with the history of slavery or racial discrimination.

Dr. Charles Murray, an American Enterprise Institute scholar, argues in an article titled "Rediscovering the Underclass" in the Institute's On the Issues series (October 2005) that self-destructive behavior has become the hallmark of the underclass. He says that unemployment in the underclass is not caused by the lack of jobs but by the inability to get up every morning and go to work. In 1954, the percentage of black males, age 20 to 24, not looking for work was nine percent. In 1999, it rose to 30 percent, and that was at a time when employers were beating the bushes for employees. Murray adds that "the statistical reality is that people who get into the American job market and stay there seldom remain poor unless they do something self-destructive.

I share Murray's sentiment expressed at the beginning of his article where he says, "Watching the courage of ordinary low-income people as they deal with the aftermath of Katrina and Rita, it is hard to decide which politicians are more contemptible -- Democrats who are rediscovering poverty and blaming it on George W. Bush, or Republicans who are rediscovering poverty and claiming that the government can fix it." Since President Johnson's War on Poverty, controlling for inflation, the nation has spent $9 trillion on about 80 anti-poverty programs. To put that figure in perspective, last year's U.S. GDP was $11 trillion; $9 trillion exceeds the GDP of any nation except the U.S. Hurricanes Katrina and Rita uncovered the result of the War on Poverty -- dependency and self-destructive behavior.

Guess what the president [President George Walker Bush] and politicians from both parties are asking the American people to do? If you said, "Enact programs that will sustain and enhance dependency," go to the head of the class.

http://econfaculty.gmu.edu/wew/articles/05/poverty.html

As usual, Progressives attempt to conceal the massive failure of their policies while stating THE PROBLEM IS WE NEED MORE MONEY!

You really are clueless. Your make political arguments that spending money to monitor children at risk is actually throwing money down the drain......this child should be alive......sure we can snap our fingers and bring self reliance, hard work, and respect for children into this world, but for those of us who have to see the carnage......we know that better monitoring saves lives.....it does solve every underlying problem.....but it saves one life at a time. Now, you can continue to post cut and paste nonsense about the complete failure of attempts to improve poverty in America, but the truth is that there has been success, and failure......but the loss of the child could have probably been prevented, not because of some grand scheme of bringing self reliance back to America.....rather the simple fact that this family was dysfunctional long before the latest event, and your grand scheme is the only massive fail that I see when talking about the death of this child.

2seaoat wrote:As usual, Progressives attempt to conceal the massive failure of their policies while stating THE PROBLEM IS WE NEED MORE MONEY!

You really are clueless. Your make political arguments that spending money to monitor children at risk is actually throwing money down the drain......this child should be alive......sure we can snap our fingers and bring self reliance, hard work, and respect for children into this world, but for those of us who have to see the carnage......we know that better monitoring saves lives.....it does solve every underlying problem.....but it saves one life at a time. Now, you can continue to post cut and paste nonsense about the complete failure of attempts to improve poverty in America, but the truth is that there has been success, and failure......but the loss of the child could have probably been prevented, not because of some grand scheme of bringing self reliance back to America.....rather the simple fact that this family was dysfunctional long before the latest event, and your grand scheme is the only massive fail that I see when talking about the death of this child.

Please read the article written by Dr. Williams and share with us all that is NOT TRUE.

YOUR solution, "BETTER MONITORING SAVES LIVES" is stunning. Maybe SPEND THE MONEY to have CAMERAS MOUNTED IN ALL HOUSES.

The "SUCCESSES" of which you speak are those who ignored the restrictions placed on them by a Progressive Society, telling them are inferior and cannot get ahead or even survive without BIG GOVERNMENT. The SUCCESSES are those who avoided the taunts and bullying of other kids and actually worked and studied, got an education, went to work, went to college got a job then got married, THEN had children, planned for their future, saved, invested and played by the rules.

Benjamin Franklin
November 27-29 1766

“I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth I traveled much, I observed in different countries that the more public provision were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And on the contrary, the less was done for them the more they did for themselves and became richer.”

"I praise lassez-faire capitalism as being the most moral and most productive system man has ever devised.


Williams believes that racism and the legacy of slavery in the United States are overemphasized as problems faced by the black community today. He points to the crippling effects of a welfare state and the disintegration of the black family as more pressing concerns.

Williams opposes anti-discrimination laws directed at the private sector on the grounds that such laws infringe upon the people's right of freedom of association.

Williams also makes the argument that the true proof of whether or not an individual owns something is whether or not they have the right to sell it. Taking this argument to its conclusion, he supports legalization of selling one's own bodily organs.

In light of the founding documents, Williams concludes it is the right of U.S. states to secede from the union if they so wish

Williams began in the 1970s to offer colleagues a "certificate of amnesty and pardon" to all white people for Western Civilization's sins against blacks – and "thus obliged them not to act like damn fools in their relationships with Americans of African ancestry."

he has said of Ayn Rand's 1967 work Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal that it is "one of the best defenses and explanations of capitalism one is likely to read."

Williams has become known nationally as a highly popular guest host before the twenty million listeners of the Rush Limbaugh

I guess I do not have to highlight the last paragraph.....it says it all.

its a shame and they better not get off using the insanity plea. that pisses me off

2seaoat wrote:http://www.pnj.com/article/20130315/NEWS01/130315013/Abused-toddler-dies-hospital


Profoundly sad......not angry.....have no answers because next week there will be a handful more children forsaken in this life........was there nobody who could come to the aid of this child......? We are all human.....we have our failings, but to grab an infant by the neck and toss them like a football........it is uncontrolled children raising children......and this precious child never had a chance........and society could do nothing? There were no warnings that this family had problems? No extended family.......no third parties.....no government.............there has to answers......we cannot have evolved into this dark place where children can be harmed like this.......and now putting people in jail will be the answer.....we are as sick as these parents to tolerate this and not become more involved in the welfare of children as budget cuts hurt the most vulnerable.

As long as anybody who can breed can have children is as long as we will have this problem. There is no alarm that will alert us as to who will abuse their child.We only become involved when something like this happens and can legally intervene only when it happens. Whether you know it or not Fl. has the strictest child abuse laws in the country but many people do not report it when they should or when there are signs. Everyone in this state is a mandatory reporter but you will have people argue and say it is not true. It is true. You yourself chided me about my argument w/ Daisy for failure to report two small children for being left alone-one a baby-while the grandmother went to the store or on errands. She watched this woman do it many times before she said something and her concern was her relationship w/ her neighbor. Inexcusable. When you convince people to change this kind of thinking is when you really become advocates for the welfare of children.

2seaoat wrote:"I praise lassez-faire capitalism as being the most moral and most productive system man has ever devised.

Williams believes that racism and the legacy of slavery in the United States are overemphasized as problems faced by the black community today. He points to the crippling effects of a welfare state and the disintegration of the black family as more pressing concerns.

Williams opposes anti-discrimination laws directed at the private sector on the grounds that such laws infringe upon the people's right of freedom of association.

Williams also makes the argument that the true proof of whether or not an individual owns something is whether or not they have the right to sell it. Taking this argument to its conclusion, he supports legalization of selling one's own bodily organs.

In light of the founding documents, Williams concludes it is the right of U.S. states to secede from the union if they so wish

Williams began in the 1970s to offer colleagues a "certificate of amnesty and pardon" to all white people for Western Civilization's sins against blacks – and "thus obliged them not to act like damn fools in their relationships with Americans of African ancestry."

he has said of Ayn Rand's 1967 work Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal that it is "one of the best defenses and explanations of capitalism one is likely to read."

Williams has become known nationally as a highly popular guest host before the twenty million listeners of the Rush Limbaugh

I guess I do not have to highlight the last paragraph.....it says it all.

So you have nothing. I knew that, I thought you'd at least make an effort to deny the FACTS laid out by Dr. Williams. Then obviously you grudgingly agree with what Dr. Williams wrote and can only make some sort of attack on his sense of humor.

Thank you for helping make my point.

Oh, wouldn't it have been more honest of you to have cited the source you copied and pasted your diatribe from?

Dr. Williams has only guest hosted once, maybe twice since his wife passed on December 29 of 2007. They had been married for 47 years and the Dr. had a wonderful sense of humor prior to her passing. They obviously had been very close.

Walter E. Williams
Biographical Sketch

Born in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, Dr. Walter E. Williams holds a B.A. in economics from California State University, Los Angeles, and M.A. and Ph.D. degrees in economics from UCLA. He also holds a Doctor of Humane Letters from Virginia Union University and Grove City College, Doctor of Laws from Washington and Jefferson College and Doctor Honoris Causa en Ciencias Sociales from Universidad Francisco Marroquin, in Guatemala, where he is also Professor Honorario.

Dr. Williams has served on the faculty of George Mason University in Fairfax, Virginia, as John M. Olin Distinguished Professor of Economics, since 1980; from 1995 to 2001, he served as department chairman. He has also served on the faculties of Los Angeles City College, California State University Los Angeles, and Temple University in Philadelphia, and Grove City College, Grove City, Pa.

Dr. Williams is the author of over 150 publications which have appeared in scholarly journals such as Economic Inquiry, American Economic Review, Georgia Law Review, Journal of Labor Economics, Social Science Quarterly, and Cornell Journal of Law and Public Policy and popular publications such as Newsweek, Ideas on Liberty, National Review, Reader's Digest, Cato Journal, and Policy Review. He has authored ten books: America: A Minority Viewpoint, The State Against Blacks, which was later made into the PBS documentary "Good Intentions," All It Takes Is Guts, South Africa's War Against Capitalism, which was later revised for South African publication, Do the Right Thing: The People's Economist Speaks, More Liberty Means Less Government, Liberty vs. the Tyranny of Socialism, Up From The Projects: An Autobiography, and Race and Economics: How Much Can Be Blamed On Discrimination?


He has made scores of radio and television appearances which include "Nightline," "Firing Line," "Face the Nation," Milton Friedman's "Free To Choose," "Crossfire," "MacNeil/Lehrer," "Wall Street Week" and was a regular commentator for "Nightly Business Report." He is also occasional substitute host for the "Rush Limbaugh" show. In addition Dr. Williams writes a nationally syndicated weekly column that is carried by approximately 140 newspapers and several web sites.

Dr. Williams serves on several boards of trustees/directors: Grove City College, Reason Foundation and Chase Foundation. He also serves on numerous advisory boards including: Cato Institute, Landmark Legal Foundation, Institute of Economic Affairs, and Heritage Foundation.

Dr. Williams has received numerous fellowships and awards including: Foundation for Economic Education Adam Smith Award, Hoover Institution National Fellow, Ford Foundation Fellow, Valley Forge Freedoms Foundation George Washington Medal of Honor, Veterans of Foreign Wars U.S. News Media Award, Adam Smith Award, California State University Distinguished Alumnus Award, George Mason University Faculty Member of the Year, and Alpha Kappa Psi Award.

Dr. Williams has participated in numerous debates, conferences and lectures in the United States and abroad. He has frequently given expert testimony before Congressional committees on public policy issues ranging from labor policy to taxation and spending. He is a member of the Mont Pelerin Society, and the American Economic Association.

Read more at...and get an education at: http://econfaculty.gmu.edu/wew/

2seaoat wrote:http://www.pnj.com/article/20130315/NEWS01/130315013/Abused-toddler-dies-hospital


Profoundly sad......not angry.....have no answers because next week there will be a handful more children forsaken in this life........was there nobody who could come to the aid of this child......? We are all human.....we have our failings, but to grab an infant by the neck and toss them like a football........it is uncontrolled children raising children......and this precious child never had a chance........and society could do nothing? There were no warnings that this family had problems? No extended family.......no third parties.....no government.............there has to answers......we cannot have evolved into this dark place where children can be harmed like this.......and now putting people in jail will be the answer.....we are as sick as these parents to tolerate this and not become more involved in the welfare of children as budget cuts hurt the most vulnerable.

Some people don't deserve to procreate, yet sterlization is illegal.

Part of the problem is so many parents have poor parenting skills. This started when the television became the baby sitter and children and parents lost the techniques and values of learning good parenting. This continues yet today.

Some people don't deserve to procreate, yet sterlization is illegal.


You are correct.......yet once they have children, society must deal with the consequences. Mr. Markle thinks Mr. Williams and Ms Rand's solutions are pure and correct......they would simply let the children fall into the abyss, and allow the natural selection of capitalism take its natural course. You see for those who live with dogma it is all or nothing. Mr. Markle says what facts have I offered and I show succinctly that the Man has espoused radical concepts......which I may add are not entirely wrong......yes, there is a kernel of truth in each of his wild ideas, but he is clueless about the constitution and seccession......he is clueless about the unbridled capitalism which we are now paying the price, not because of progressives have over regulated the same, but because without regulation monopoly and Oligarchies game the system and rather than efficiencies we have failures as the Rand model is really the Latin American model of selfishness which leaves the people in dispair.

No a child that Dreams argues needs to be protected by a State system is the one extreme, and Mr. Markle, Rush, Rand, and Williams is the other extreme of ......sorry let the kid die, and do not have kids protected at all because it will strengthen survival of the fittest. No, both extremes cannot get it right............right is common sense of the middle with in fact neighbors and family monitoring those children, and yes Dreams if there is government support for this family unit more intrusions and monitoring if government extends benefits, but this idea of bigger government is not better than Williams idea of no government. Sorry, this child could have been saved........and extremist continue to stand in the way of common sense solutions.

2seaoat wrote:Some people don't deserve to procreate, yet sterlization is illegal.


You are correct.......yet once they have children, society must deal with the consequences. Mr. Markle thinks Mr. Williams and Ms Rand's solutions are pure and correct......they would simply let the children fall into the abyss, and allow the natural selection of capitalism take its natural course. You see for those who live with dogma it is all or nothing. Mr. Markle says what facts have I offered and I show succinctly that the Man has espoused radical concepts......which I may add are not entirely wrong......yes, there is a kernel of truth in each of his wild ideas, but he is clueless about the constitution and seccession......he is clueless about the unbridled capitalism which we are now paying the price, not because of progressives have over regulated the same, but because without regulation monopoly and Oligarchies game the system and rather than efficiencies we have failures as the Rand model is really the Latin American model of selfishness which leaves the people in dispair.

No a child that Dreams argues needs to be protected by a State system is the one extreme, and Mr. Markle, Rush, Rand, and Williams is the other extreme of ......sorry let the kid die, and do not have kids protected at all because it will strengthen survival of the fittest. No, both extremes cannot get it right............right is common sense of the middle with in fact neighbors and family monitoring those children, and yes Dreams if there is government support for this family unit more intrusions and monitoring if government extends benefits, but this idea of bigger government is not better than Williams idea of no government. Sorry, this child could have been saved........and extremist continue to stand in the way of common sense solutions.

It is extreme to report babies being left alone? Are you serious? You're not making sense here. You're talking about protecting kids and somebody should have done something then you say protecting kids by the state is extreme.Who do you think is going to make these parents do what they need to? The neighbors? Family? That's not the real world, Seaoat. Most of these people need parenting and have to be made to do it. It's not my job to raise my neighbors kids and many people don't have family that will do it either so that leaves the state. I'm no advocate of putting kids in foster care and the state protection system has many flaws but it beats doing nothing.

These kids would have had a better chance in foster care, and one of them would be alive today.

2seaoat wrote:These kids would have had a better chance in foster care, and one of them would be alive today.

Agreed.

Markle wrote:

2seaoat wrote:http://www.pnj.com/article/20130315/NEWS01/130315013/Abused-toddler-dies-hospital


Profoundly sad......not angry..........we are as sick as these parents to tolerate this and not become more involved in the welfare of children as budget cuts hurt the most vulnerable.

As usual, Progressives attempt to conceal the massive failure of their policies while stating THE PROBLEM IS WE NEED MORE MONEY! They cannot, will not, find solutions because the solutions are the opposite of what their policies and FEELINGS caused.

Dr. Williams hits the nail square on the head. As offensive as that is to Progressives who greatly exacerbated the problems instead of helping.

BY WALTER E. WILLIAMS
RELEASE: WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 26, 2005, AND THEREAFTER

AMMUNITION FOR POVERTY PIMPS

In the wake of Hurricane Katrina's destruction of New Orleans,...last year's U.S. GDP was $11 trillion; $9 trillion exceeds the GDP of any nation except the U.S. Hurricanes Katrina and Rita uncovered the result of the War on Poverty -- dependency and self-destructive behavior.

Guess what the president [President George Walker Bush] and politicians from both parties are asking the American people to do? If you said, "Enact programs that will sustain and enhance dependency," go to the head of the class.

http://econfaculty.gmu.edu/wew/articles/05/poverty.html

*****SMILE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBmtaFq0kvQ

2seaoat wrote:As usual, Progressives attempt to conceal the massive failure of their policies while stating THE PROBLEM IS WE NEED MORE MONEY!

You really are clueless. Your make political arguments that spending money to monitor children at risk is actually throwing money down the drain......this child should be alive......sure we can snap our fingers and bring self reliance, hard work, and respect for children into this world, but for those of us who have to see the carnage......we know that better monitoring saves lives.....it does solve every underlying problem.....but it saves one life at a time. Now, you can continue to post cut and paste nonsense about the complete failure of attempts to improve poverty in America, but the truth is that there has been success, and failure......but the loss of the child could have probably been prevented, not because of some grand scheme of bringing self reliance back to America.....rather the simple fact that this family was dysfunctional long before the latest event, and your grand scheme is the only massive fail that I see when talking about the death of this child.

When the system set in place to monitor these things is corrupt and dysfunctional itself it's a waste of time to expect it to correct societies maladies adequately.

*****SMILE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0Cbfm1PStA

Slicef18 wrote:Part of the problem is so many parents have poor parenting skills. This started when the television became the baby sitter and children and parents lost the techniques and values of learning good parenting. This continues yet today.

I agree. I would also contend that part of the erosion of the family exists because people are for more concerned about their rights than about their responsibilities. Yes, people have a right to have children. With that comes the responsibility to teach them appropriate behaviors.

Parents complain about teachers wanting to put children on Ritalin so they'll be good in school. The reality is that those same parents fail to teach their children basic social skills. Those same parents will spend time and energy calling a school principal to complain when their child is disciplined, but they will not put forth the same amount of time and energy to teach their child something as basic as how to act in public.

BirdyBack wrote:

Slicef18 wrote:Part of the problem is so many parents have poor parenting skills. This started when the television became the baby sitter and children and parents lost the techniques and values of learning good parenting. This continues yet today.

I agree. I would also contend that part of the erosion of the family exists because people are for more concerned about their rights than about their responsibilities. Yes, people have a right to have children. With that comes the responsibility to teach them appropriate behaviors.

Parents complain about teachers wanting to put children on Ritalin so they'll be good in school. The reality is that those same parents fail to teach their children basic social skills. Those same parents will spend time and energy calling a school principal to complain when their child is disciplined, but they will not put forth the same amount of time and energy to teach their child something as basic as how to act in public.

Right on,Birdie!

BirdyBack wrote:

Slicef18 wrote:Part of the problem is so many parents have poor parenting skills. This started when the television became the baby sitter and children and parents lost the techniques and values of learning good parenting. This continues yet today.

I agree. I would also contend that part of the erosion of the family exists because people are for more concerned about their rights than about their responsibilities. Yes, people have a right to have children. With that comes the responsibility to teach them appropriate behaviors.

Parents complain about teachers wanting to put children on Ritalin so they'll be good in school. The reality is that those same parents fail to teach their children basic social skills. Those same parents will spend time and energy calling a school principal to complain when their child is disciplined, but they will not put forth the same amount of time and energy to teach their child something as basic as how to act in public.

Considering that a majority of the people who do this and have children like this are liberals I tend to agree. A prime example of this type of parenting posted just before me.

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byD2cD7iAfE

2seaoat wrote:http://www.pnj.com/article/20130315/NEWS01/130315013/Abused-toddler-dies-hospital


Profoundly sad......not angry.....have no answers because next week there will be a handful more children forsaken in this life........was there nobody who could come to the aid of this child......? We are all human.....we have our failings, but to grab an infant by the neck and toss them like a football........it is uncontrolled children raising children......and this precious child never had a chance........and society could do nothing? There were no warnings that this family had problems? No extended family.......no third parties.....no government.............there has to answers......we cannot have evolved into this dark place where children can be harmed like this.......and now putting people in jail will be the answer.....we are as sick as these parents to tolerate this and not become more involved in the welfare of children as budget cuts hurt the most vulnerable.

Yes, Seaoat, it's sad, but it also makes me extremely angry...and I suspect crack cocaine...

Damaged Eagle wrote:

BirdyBack wrote:

Slicef18 wrote:Part of the problem is so many parents have poor parenting skills. This started when the television became the baby sitter and children and parents lost the techniques and values of learning good parenting. This continues yet today.

I agree. I would also contend that part of the erosion of the family exists because people are for more concerned about their rights than about their responsibilities. Yes, people have a right to have children. With that comes the responsibility to teach them appropriate behaviors.

Parents complain about teachers wanting to put children on Ritalin so they'll be good in school. The reality is that those same parents fail to teach their children basic social skills. Those same parents will spend time and energy calling a school principal to complain when their child is disciplined, but they will not put forth the same amount of time and energy to teach their child something as basic as how to act in public.

Considering that a majority of the people who do this and have children like this are liberals I tend to agree. A prime example of this type of parenting posted just before me.

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byD2cD7iAfE

Comments like this just reinforce your nutjob status. You look so juvenile and silly.

Damaged Eagle wrote:

BirdyBack wrote:

Slicef18 wrote:Part of the problem is so many parents have poor parenting skills. This started when the television became the baby sitter and children and parents lost the techniques and values of learning good parenting. This continues yet today.

I agree. I would also contend that part of the erosion of the family exists because people are for more concerned about their rights than about their responsibilities. Yes, people have a right to have children. With that comes the responsibility to teach them appropriate behaviors.

Parents complain about teachers wanting to put children on Ritalin so they'll be good in school. The reality is that those same parents fail to teach their children basic social skills. Those same parents will spend time and energy calling a school principal to complain when their child is disciplined, but they will not put forth the same amount of time and energy to teach their child something as basic as how to act in public.

Considering that a majority of the people who do this and have children like this are liberals I tend to agree. A prime example of this type of parenting posted just before me.

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byD2cD7iAfE

Oh, BS, you blankin' rube. I have personally reported one instance of child abuse and one of child neglect. One set of parents was white; the other was Japanese.

IN FTs case, the parents got the short straw when procreating a child.

Floridatexan wrote:

Damaged Eagle wrote:

BirdyBack wrote:

Slicef18 wrote:Part of the problem is so many parents have poor parenting skills. This started when the television became the baby sitter and children and parents lost the techniques and values of learning good parenting. This continues yet today.

I agree. I would also contend that part of the erosion of the family exists because people are for more concerned about their rights than about their responsibilities. Yes, people have a right to have children. With that comes the responsibility to teach them appropriate behaviors.

Parents complain about teachers wanting to put children on Ritalin so they'll be good in school. The reality is that those same parents fail to teach their children basic social skills. Those same parents will spend time and energy calling a school principal to complain when their child is disciplined, but they will not put forth the same amount of time and energy to teach their child something as basic as how to act in public.

Considering that a majority of the people who do this and have children like this are liberals I tend to agree. A prime example of this type of parenting posted just before me.

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byD2cD7iAfE

Oh, BS, you blankin' rube. I have personally reported one instance of child abuse and one of child neglect. One set of parents was white; the other was Japanese.

Why not any blacks?