Obama – The Campaign Guy

nochain wrote:While Repubs can take a bunch of blame for the impending sequestration so can the Dems and Obama. If BHO would quit his phony road show and spend some time holding serious talks perhaps things could be worked out. But he is taking his usual approach – dodging responsibility on his latest campaign trail by continuously pointing the finger across the aisle instead of trying to find some compromise. As Congresswoman Rodgers said in the linked article: "The Republicans, almost 300 days ago, put forward our place to replace these cuts with smarter reforms, smarter cuts," she said before adding, "What we need is for the president to get off the campaign trail, [and to] quit talking about cutting taxes."

I agree.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_162-57571266/gop-take-aim-at-obama-for-nonstop-campaigning-on-sequester/

nochain wrote:While Repubs can take a bunch of blame for the impending sequestration so can the Dems and Obama. If BHO would quit his phony road show and spend some time holding serious talks perhaps things could be worked out. But he is taking his usual approach – dodging responsibility on his latest campaign trail by continuously pointing the finger across the aisle instead of trying to find some compromise. As Congresswoman Rodgers said in the linked article: "The Republicans, almost 300 days ago, put forward our place to replace these cuts with smarter reforms, smarter cuts," she said before adding, "What we need is for the president to get off the campaign trail, [and to] quit talking about cutting taxes."

I agree.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_162-57571266/gop-take-aim-at-obama-for-nonstop-campaigning-on-sequester/

Sal wrote:

nochain wrote:While Repubs can take a bunch of blame for the impending sequestration so can the Dems and Obama. If BHO would quit his phony road show and spend some time holding serious talks perhaps things could be worked out. But he is taking his usual approach – dodging responsibility on his latest campaign trail by continuously pointing the finger across the aisle instead of trying to find some compromise. As Congresswoman Rodgers said in the linked article: "The Republicans, almost 300 days ago, put forward our place to replace these cuts with smarter reforms, smarter cuts," she said before adding, "What we need is for the president to get off the campaign trail, [and to] quit talking about cutting taxes."

I agree.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_162-57571266/gop-take-aim-at-obama-for-nonstop-campaigning-on-sequester/

With whom exactly should Obama be negotiating?

Boehner has no power whatsoever to deliver votes from the teahadists holding the Republican party hostage.

So what's to negotiate?

The sequester is going to happen, and people will see the pain inflicted.

Good for Obama for taking the issue around the impediment and directly to the people.

We deserve to see the coming attractions and who's responsible for them.

Sal wrote:B

Their wake-up call will be coming in 2014, when it's time to pay the piper.

cool1 wrote:why doesnt Obama do something if he doesnt like his own idea -dont cry wolf now if ya dont like it you shouldnt have brought it up to be voted on -----so now its going to happen and he complains the world is going to end -------------not -----the buck stops here

newswatcher wrote:
WH Spokesman Carney has admitted these cuts were the idea of the cowh/administration to use as leverage to negotiate prior to the final date of March 1st...And yet there are some that attempt to blame others for the actions/policies of this administration...In 2011 the cowh stated he would veto any attempt to change anything from keeping these cuts take effect..His own words aren't enough to hold him responsible/accountable...Not a Boehner supporter...but in this case he's correct...this is the mess of the cowh and he alone will have to decide whether or not to negotiate to keep these cuts from happening...OR maybe this is simply another clever attempt to undermine the cowh from...George W Bush...

cool1 wrote:Obama owns this one ---He knows it , everybody knows it , The people arent going to blame Republicans when we know it was Obamas Idea

you can spinn it anyway you want it Obama----The people know the truth!

nochain wrote:From the editorial board of the Washington Post - they nailed it:

"In the petty arguments over this self-inflicted wound, there are merits, or demerits, on both sides. The Republicans are right when they say that the sequester was Mr. Obama’s idea, in the summer of 2011, and that he agreed to a deal that was all spending cuts, no tax hikes. He is correct that he hoped the sequester would never go into effect but would be replaced by a 10-year bargain that would raise revenue and slow the growth of entitlement costs. He is correct, too, on the larger point: Such a deal is what’s needed, and the Republicans are wrong to resist further revenue hikes.

But if that’s what’s needed, why is Mr. Obama not leading the way to a solution? From the start, and increasingly in his second term, Mr. Obama has presented entitlement reform as something he would do grudgingly, as a favor to the opposition, when he should be explaining to the American people — and to his party — why it is an urgent national need."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/sequester-offers-president-obama-a-time-to-lead/2013/02/25/8a9b0e04-7f64-11e2-b99e-6baf4ebe42df_story.html

Sal wrote:

cool1 wrote:Obama owns this one ---He knows it , everybody knows it , The people arent going to blame Republicans when we know it was Obamas Idea

you can spinn it anyway you want it Obama----The people know the truth!

Do you get your political predictions from PeeDog?

lmao

nochain wrote:The usual suspects leap to BHOs defense - what is so wrong about R's wanting spending cuts to offset additional debt? Nothing except the lowest hanging fruit happens to be BHOs beloved entitlement programs (you know - the programs that fund his voter base). Cut the incredibly wasteful F-35 program but also do away with or reduce wasteful entitlement programs, increase efforts to eliminate medicare fraud, close tax loopholes, eliminate subsidies to farm corporations and oil companies, stop funding ethanol, quit passing out funds to doomed to fail green company efforts, the list goes on but nobody wants to make the hard decisions. Get out of Afghanistan NOW. While I suggest a bipartisan approach and stated R's are also to blame for the current mess you PARTISAN HACKS insist it's all one party causing the problem. How childish.

You hacks want to know who BHO is supposed to talk to? I always thought the job of the "President" was to negotiate with Congress but he has already stated he will not negotiate. "President Barack Obama on Monday rejected any negotiation with Republicans over the most pressing U.S. fiscal issue, refusing to trade cuts in government spending in exchange for raising the borrowing limit." http://www.cnbc.com/id/100378074/UPDATE_3Obama_refuses_to_negotiate_debt_ceiling_raise


And don't forget to hit me with another "negative vote" WTM, you seem particularly obsessed with your little games. LOL.

Sal wrote:The funny thing is that the Republicans seem to think they can win the blame game on sequestration even though it's every wingnut's wet-dream.

The cognitive dissonance is thick with that crowd.

cool1 wrote:why doesnt Obama do something if he doesnt like his own idea -dont cry wolf now if ya dont like it you shouldnt have brought it up to be voted on -----so now its going to happen and he complains the world is going to end -------------not -----the buck stops here

nochain wrote:From the editorial board of the Washington Post - they nailed it:

"In the petty arguments over this self-inflicted wound, there are merits, or demerits, on both sides. The Republicans are right when they say that the sequester was Mr. Obama’s idea, in the summer of 2011, and that he agreed to a deal that was all spending cuts, no tax hikes. He is correct that he hoped the sequester would never go into effect but would be replaced by a 10-year bargain that would raise revenue and slow the growth of entitlement costs. He is correct, too, on the larger point: Such a deal is what’s needed, and the Republicans are wrong to resist further revenue hikes.

But if that’s what’s needed, why is Mr. Obama not leading the way to a solution? From the start, and increasingly in his second term, Mr. Obama has presented entitlement reform as something he would do grudgingly, as a favor to the opposition, when he should be explaining to the American people — and to his party — why it is an urgent national need."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/sequester-offers-president-obama-a-time-to-lead/2013/02/25/8a9b0e04-7f64-11e2-b99e-6baf4ebe42df_story.html

PkrBum wrote:Anyone that thinks Obama or the leftists will accept any blame haven't been paying attention.

And anyone referring to a 2% cut in projected spending a "brutal cutback" has lost all rational thought process.

The retribution and inflicting deliberate needless harm the Chicago way would be a huge mistake... even for Noblameo Obama.