North Korea Conducts Third Nuclear Test

http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/12/world/asia/north-korea-chinoy-qa/index.html?hpt=hp_bn2

And the world sits...... It is more important to bomb Iran before they get a bomb than it is to attack an already nuclear and aggressive North Korea. Sometimes I just cannot understand Neocon (il)logic....

What would be the purpose of hitting NK? The proverbial Pandora's box is already opened. Sometimes I cannot understand "liberal logic". There is no preventing them from getting the bomb. We can and must prevent Iran from getting it or the entire ME will be proliferated with nukes.
It was your Jimmy Carter that created the Rapid Deployment Force to ensure that his "Carter Doctrine" of preventing control of the world's oil supply by a hegemon was never in jeopardy. This wasn't a "neocon" policy. It was as liberal, leftwing as Obama is today.

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:The entire Middle East is already proliferated with nukes. Israel has a bigger nuclear arsenal than France and Great Britain combined. They have conducted nuclear espionage worldwide, have been nuclear proliferators with other rogue nations (South Africa), and have conducted secret aboveground nuclear tests (1979 Vela Incident). Their conduct has been an abomination and they do not deserve any free passes.

ONE nation with nukes is not proliferation. South Africa gave their nukes up (and they are not in the ME, nice RED HERRING for you today). Funny how you love Iran, the country threatening to push all of the Jews into the Med, but the one country that is democratic, has nukes, and doesn't threaten to wipe out an entire race of people, you hate. Looks like YOU are the real war monger here.

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/12/world/asia/north-korea-chinoy-qa/index.html?hpt=hp_bn2

And the world sits...... It is more important to bomb Iran before they get a bomb than it is to attack an already nuclear and aggressive North Korea. Sometimes I just cannot understand Neocon (il)logic....

Seriously?

Sal wrote:There's no oil in North Korea.

And there isn't any in South Korea either.. We should get the hell out of there and let China deal with it..

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/12/world/asia/north-korea-chinoy-qa/index.html?hpt=hp_bn2

And the world sits...... It is more important to bomb Iran before they get a bomb than it is to attack an already nuclear and aggressive North Korea. Sometimes I just cannot understand Neocon (il)logic....

Then apparently you are not able to understand the liberal logic of BHO who has threatened Iran militarily over blocking the Strait of Hormuz and also stated the U.S. will do what must be done to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon.

My reaction is Iran is probably not building a bomb at this time while the NKs are getting closer. However North Korea is stumbling around in extreme poverty and now they have China and other supporters spanking them over this latest test.

"My reaction is Iran is probably not building a bomb at this time while the NKs are getting closer."

Uh, yes, if they have already exploded three bombs......

Lurch wrote:

Sal wrote:There's no oil in North Korea.

And there isn't any in South Korea either.. We should get the hell out of there and let China deal with it..

OK, and what of our treaty ( S Korea ) and economic ties ( China and South Korea)?

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:"My reaction is Iran is probably not building a bomb at this time while the NKs are getting closer."

Uh, yes, if they have already exploded three bombs......

Uh, no, they detonated a "device" - developing and fitting a "bomb" or "warhead" to a delivery vehicle is another matter entirely.....

North Korea Nuclear Test Branded 'Serious Threat' to U.S.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21429544

It was a smaller bomb with double the explosive power of the last test they did. They are inching ever closer to having a deliverable warhead. They have a missile that could reach Alaska or Hawaii. They have stated they are looking for confrontation with the United States.

Meanwile, the U.S. is straining to find the funds to keep two aircraft carriers stationed off Iran..... The Navy may need to move them to the Sea of Japan....

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:North Korea Nuclear Test Branded 'Serious Threat' to U.S.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21429544

It was a smaller bomb with double the explosive power of the last test they did. They are inching ever closer to having a deliverable warhead. They have a missile that could reach Alaska or Hawaii. They have stated they are looking for confrontation with the United States.

Meanwile, the U.S. is straining to find the funds to keep two aircraft carriers stationed off Iran..... The Navy may need to move them to the Sea of Japan....

For someone who claims to have been part of the Marines and the airwing, you have very little knowledge in regards to where we base our carriers.

Lurch wrote:

Sal wrote:There's no oil in North Korea.

And there isn't any in South Korea either.. We should get the hell out of there and let China deal with it..

Always the Progressives who advocate for mass genocide. Shameful!

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:The entire Middle East is already proliferated with nukes. Israel has a bigger nuclear arsenal than France and Great Britain combined. They have conducted nuclear espionage worldwide, have been nuclear proliferators with other rogue nations (South Africa), and have conducted secret aboveground nuclear tests (1979 Vela Incident). Their conduct has been an abomination and they do not deserve any free passes.

Maybe it wasn't such a good idea to skip all those geography classes in middle school. Neither France nor Great Britain are located in the Middle East.

Specifically which countries has Israel threatened to bomb into oblivion?

Now list the countries which have theatened to push Israel into the sea an kill all the Jews?

Which is longer?

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/12/world/asia/north-korea-chinoy-qa/index.html?hpt=hp_bn2

And the world sits...... It is more important to bomb Iran before they get a bomb than it is to attack an already nuclear and aggressive North Korea. Sometimes I just cannot understand Neocon (il)logic....

by Joel B. Pollak12 Feb 2013, 10:18 AM PDT

In 2008, then-candidate Barack Obama promised that he would “eliminate North Korea’s nuclear weapons program.” His campaign manifesto, Change We Can Believe In, described Obama’s North Korea policy, and the philosophy behind it, in great detail:


North Korea is an example where direct, tough diplomacy that lays out clear choices to rogue regimes for good and bad behavior can lead to change. When the United States was engaged, the pace of Pyongyang’s development of nuclear weapons was slowed; when we were not, it quickened. While there has been some promising progress, it’s important that all of North Korea’s claims are verified. If they are not, we should move quickly to reimpose sanctions that have been waived, and consider new restrictions going forward. As President, Barack Obama will work with diligence and determination with our friends and allied to end the threat of North Korea and to secure a lasting peace on the Korean peninsula.

Obama’s pledge to use “tough diplomacy” to “end the threat of North Korea” followed his infamous pledge during a Democratic presidential primary debate in 2007 that he would meet the leaders of rogue regimes like North Korea “without preconditions.”

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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/02/12/Remember-When-Obama-Promised-to-Eliminate-North-Korea-s-Nuclear-Weapons-Programs