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The Nuclear Threat is From North Korea; Not Iran....

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ZVUGKTUBM

Is the US prepared for a nuclear threat from North Korea?

North Korea broadcasts another nuclear threat against the US.

http://news.yahoo.com/us-prepared-nuclear-threat-north-korea-191302428.html

North Korea is "fully ready" to launch nuclear weapons against the US or other "hostile forces," said a Korean official on Tuesday.

While Republican lawmakers grouse over the merits of President Obama's Iran deal, they are sleepwalking concerning North Korea, which has already threatened to attack America with nukes. Where is the Republican outrage over this clear threat to the U.S.?

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2seaoat



The Koreans are the real deal.

Markle

Markle

And it has never struck either you that Iran and North Korea will cooperate in Iran in the development of a nuclear weapon and ballistic weapons?

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

I have heard it said that white people are nice and accommodating until they are not. After pushing and pushing the white culture around, the world will again remember why white people have violently built the biggest empires that have ever existed and it will be bloody and brutal....Korea had better stop pushing...the change can happen over night.

2seaoat



And it has never struck either you that Iran and North Korea will cooperate in Iran in the development of a nuclear weapon and ballistic weapons?


Let me ask you this question. You have posted that you enjoyed drag racing growing up. Tell me how a 1940 rod racing against a 2015 rod would be different? Do you think 1940 technology is bottled up and cannot be released?

We have never really ended hostilities with North Korea. Japan and South Korea using the zones of American critical interests are far more important in 2015 than any argument about the Middle East when America is near self sufficiency in oil and gas. Iran is important in regard to the Saudis and Israelis. It is not within a critical zone of American interests. America has little concern about Iran beyond the MIC war drums. It is funny how a real threat like North Korea has no war drums, no increasing boots on the ground in South Korea.......Mr. Markle do you know the reason why? One is a real threat to American interests, and the other is a manufactured one to create the illusion that America and Israel are one and the same.

Markle

Markle

2seaoat wrote:And it has never struck either you that Iran and North Korea will cooperate in Iran in the development of a nuclear weapon and ballistic weapons?


Let me ask you this question.  You have posted that you enjoyed drag racing growing up.  Tell me how a 1940 rod racing against a 2015 rod would be different?   Do you think 1940 technology is bottled up and cannot be released?

We have never really ended hostilities with North Korea.  Japan and South Korea using the zones of American critical interests are far more important in 2015 than any argument about the Middle East when America is near self sufficiency in oil and gas.  Iran is important in regard to the Saudis and Israelis.  It is not within a critical zone of American interests.  America has little concern about Iran beyond the MIC war drums.   It is funny how a real threat like North Korea has no war drums, no increasing boots on the ground in South Korea.......Mr. Markle do you know the reason why?   One is a real threat to American interests, and the other is a manufactured one to create the illusion that America and Israel are one and the same.

I still enjoy drag racing and NASCAR for that matter. Tickets for the Gator Winter Nationals, in Gainesville next year will go on sale in December.

The rest of your...word salad is just that, word salad and nothing else.

The Nuclear Threat is From North Korea; Not Iran.... Wordsalad_zpspdjlfcpj

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

Markle wrote:And it has never struck either you that Iran and North Korea will cooperate in Iran in the development of a nuclear weapon and ballistic weapons?

A most ridiculous notion.

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2seaoat



A word salad which says Iran is not a current threat to American interests at the same level that Korea is. You believe Iran is a real and present danger to mainland America. Please name an Iranian attack in America in the last fifty years? Please name a country Persians have invaded in a thousand years?

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

Markle wrote:The Nuclear Threat is From North Korea; Not Iran.... Wordsalad_zpspdjlfcpj

The Nuclear Threat is From North Korea; Not Iran.... Nothing%20plus%20nothing_zpsp5o32y9v

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Guest


Guest

by ZVUGKTUBM Yesterday at 9:27 pm
Is the US prepared for a nuclear threat from North Korea?

North Korea broadcasts another nuclear threat against the US.

http://news.yahoo.com/us-prepared-nuclear-threat-north-korea-191302428.html

North Korea is "fully ready" to launch nuclear weapons against the US or other "hostile forces," said a Korean official on Tuesday.

While Republican lawmakers grouse over the merits of President Obama's Iran deal, they are sleepwalking concerning North Korea, which has already threatened to attack America with nukes. Where is the Republican outrage over this clear threat to the U.S.?
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They can't even figure out how to launch a bottle rocket much less an ICBM and deliver a warhead

2seaoat



They can hit South Korea and Japan......if you cannot understand how critical these countries are to our supply chain, one would think the taxpayer's money is being wasted on your graduate studies.

Guest


Guest

“This is a good deal for the United States,” said President Clinton. “North Korea will freeze and then dismantle its nuclear program. South Korea and our other allies will be better protected. The entire world will be safer as we slow the spread of nuclear weapons.”

Guest


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by 2seaoat Today at 12:54 am
They can hit South Korea and Japan......if you cannot understand how critical these countries are to our supply chain, one would think the taxpayer's money is being wasted on your graduate studies.
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South Korea maybe ... Japan meh ...

Guest


Guest

It only assures the end of his life if he does and we know the fat boy is living large

Guest


Guest

In the other hand Iran has Shahab missiles that can reach all of Europe. Let me know what you think the impact of thst might be.

2seaoat



In the other hand Iran has Shahab missiles that can reach all of Europe. Let me know what you think the impact of thst might be.


Iran has NO beef with Europe.

“This is a good deal for the United States,” said President Clinton. “North Korea will freeze and then dismantle its nuclear program. South Korea and our other allies will be better protected. The entire world will be safer as we slow the spread of nuclear weapons.”

Who was responsible for America NOT fulfilling its obligations under the agreement?

Here are the facts and timeline.

https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/dprkchron

Here is a good balance of criticism of the framework which most experts have argued has failed. Good stuff.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/kim/themes/lessons.html

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

Obamasucks wrote:In the other hand Iran has Shahab missiles that can reach all of Europe. Let me know what you think the impact of thst might be.

Iran has threatened no one in Europe, Dopey. Iran has threatened Israel with words only. It does support Hezbolah and Hamas, but those groups likely would not be so active if Israel were not a terror all by itself (you know, bombing Gaza, Lebanon, and anyone around them whenever it feels right to do so).

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ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

2seaoat wrote:Who was responsible for America NOT fulfilling its obligations under the agreement?

Yeah... North Korea didn't test any nukes until George W. Bush became president (another one of his foreign policy failures).

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by 2seaoat Today at 1:37 am
In the other hand Iran has Shahab missiles that can reach all of Europe. Let me know what you think the impact of thst might be.


Iran has NO beef with Europe.

“This is a good deal for the United States,” said President Clinton. “North Korea will freeze and then dismantle its nuclear program. South Korea and our other allies will be better protected. The entire world will be safer as we slow the spread of nuclear weapons.”

Who was responsible for America NOT fulfilling its obligations under the agreement?

Here are the facts and timeline.

https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/dprkchron

Here is a good balance of criticism of the framework which most experts have argued has failed. Good stuff.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/kim/themes/lessons.html
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Ok keep thinking that

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:
2seaoat wrote:Who was responsible for America NOT fulfilling its obligations under the agreement?

Yeah... North Korea didn't test any nukes until George W. Bush became president (another one of his foreign policy failures).

Really?  Was Bush president in 2009 and 2013?




9 October 2006
Years of posturing and wrangles over the delivery of American aid culminated in October 2006 with an announcement by Pyongyang that it had carried out an underground nuclear explosion.
North Korea's first nuclear test exploded a device based on plutonium, rather than enriched uranium.
The test was conducted at P'unggye-yok, and US intelligence officials later announced that analysis of radioactive debris in air samples collected a few days after the test confirmed that the blast had taken place.
But they estimated that it had not been a powerful one, measuring less than one kiloton, raising questions about the sophistication and effectiveness of the weapon.
This is less than a tenth of the size of the bomb dropped on Hiroshima in 1945.
In response to the test the UN approved military and economic sanctions against North Korea.

knothead

knothead

. . . . . . . and your point is????

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

[quote="JReally?  Was Bush president in 2009 and 2013? [/quote]

First test was in 2006.

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Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:[quote="JReally?  Was Bush presidenht in 2009 and 2013?

First test was in 2006.[/quote]

And twice during Obama's presidency.  

Sanctions were imposed after the first failed bomb test...under Bush.



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Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

knothead wrote:. . . . . . . and your point is????

What is my point.....seriously?

2seaoat



This idea that a politician or a treaty is going to stop 75 year old technology and science from spreading is the essence of being naive.

Iran has the bomb. Korea has the bomb. The choice to keep a world safe from nuclear violence is a choice between diplomatic options and war. I choose diplomatic options.

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